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by Salmoneus
03 Aug 2020 15:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: AmEng-based conlang
Replies: 9
Views: 256

Re: AmEng-based conlang

The cases of /aI/ and /eI/ aren't equivalent, though. The English diphthong [eI] is just one dialectical realisation of the phoneme [e] - much as in many dialects /i/ is more likely to be realised as [iI]. It can be treated as a distinct quality because a) it's phonemically equivalent to the [e] fou...
by Salmoneus
02 Aug 2020 21:12
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 7386
Views: 951203

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Actually, I initially took it as just asking how it 'should' be spelled. My general point was just that there's no one right way to write a language: you have to choose that yourself. And there are many factors that might influence this. Nobody can say what spelling is better without knowing what ef...
by Salmoneus
31 Jul 2020 23:20
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11849
Views: 1428714

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I thought I would be able to find a language that doesn't mark past-tense, having past-tense as the default, but marks non-past. But I couldn't find any, or any discussion about it. Does it happen though? I think this is common actually, especially the past-tense as default part. This often happens...
by Salmoneus
31 Jul 2020 22:36
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)
Replies: 105
Views: 2827

Re: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)

FWIW, I had no insuperable lexical/conceptual problems translating the text into a 1st-millennium Germanic language, though it felt that that was not the intended cultural context. For an even more technologically undeveloped and/or alien culture, there may be a couple of terms that you might have t...
by Salmoneus
31 Jul 2020 17:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)
Replies: 105
Views: 2827

Re: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)

Just to clarify here: Click's just struggling to write up his grammar, yes? They've managed to translate out of my conlang OK?
by Salmoneus
30 Jul 2020 13:47
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 7386
Views: 951203

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

FWIW, Irish also has two forms - a verb 'to be' and a copula. The copula mostly seems used for noun=noun, but I'm not sure it's as simple as that. Oh, and Old English has one verb, but with two different forms in the indicative present tense - one for the essential and one for the accidental/tempora...
by Salmoneus
30 Jul 2020 13:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11849
Views: 1428714

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

jimydog000 wrote:
30 Jul 2020 11:46
I thought I would be able to find a language that doesn't mark past-tense, having past-tense as the default, but marks non-past.
But I couldn't find any, or any discussion about it. Does it happen though?
I assume so, but can't cite you. Have you tried the Raritatenkabinett?
by Salmoneus
30 Jul 2020 02:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11849
Views: 1428714

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

In the specific case of 'asymmetrical' borrowing of kin terms and the like, I'd suggest three motivations: a) as pointed out, male and female lines often come from different communities; mothers, in particular, can easily introduce loanwords from their mother-tongues related to mothers, aunts, grand...
by Salmoneus
26 Jul 2020 11:58
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)
Replies: 105
Views: 2827

Re: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)

I wouldn't worry too much - your side of the relay is already one step ahead of ours. And meanwhile, I think I may have killed Click...
by Salmoneus
25 Jul 2020 19:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)
Replies: 105
Views: 2827

Re: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)

Yay! I'm now officially only joint-losing!

Except, of course, in the "produce an indecipherable mess that the next person can't make any sense of" sense, in which case I probably am still losing...
by Salmoneus
25 Jul 2020 16:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11849
Views: 1428714

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

surprised you added "doubt it" to the list, as i would call that a counterexample. some other possible counterexamples show up in the past tense .... "loved it!" ... "got it!" ... "crushed it!" .... but only the doubt verb carries inherent 1st person in the present tense. It wasn't a list of 'examp...
by Salmoneus
25 Jul 2020 15:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11849
Views: 1428714

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

An unmarked verb in English can be any of the three persons (I eat, you eat, they eat). If you mean that a verb appearing without any subject is by default interpreted as a first-person verb, I don't believe you. If someone says "eat!", you automatically assume that they mean that they are eating s...
by Salmoneus
25 Jul 2020 03:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11849
Views: 1428714

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Who is the default agent in verbs in your natlang(s) or conlang(s), or those ‘langs you know? First person? Second person? Third person? In English, the “correct” (i.e. normative) interpretation of an unmarked verb, is second-person imperative. However in colloquial speech (or at least my idiolect ...
by Salmoneus
24 Jul 2020 01:23
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: The Valley
Replies: 8
Views: 212

Re: The Valley

I think 2nd person has two big problems: weirdness, and authoritarianism. Regarding weirdness, 2nd person is jarring because it never, ever occurs in real life. Except in weird situations like "someone is telling you your cover story for if the police catch you", or "playing D&D". I never tell you w...
by Salmoneus
24 Jul 2020 00:15
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: The Valley
Replies: 8
Views: 212

Re: The Valley

One immediate observation you may want to be made aware of, if you're not already, is that a lot of editors will still automatically reject any story submission with present tense, second-person narration - I'm told the proportion of editors rejecting such things automatically has gone down from its...
by Salmoneus
21 Jul 2020 23:05
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.
Replies: 106
Views: 22288

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Personally, I don't see what's so wrong about bumping an interesting old thread up for new people to see, rather than re-saying it all in a new thread. To me, the distinction is instead between bumping up a thread of little interest, or of interest only in the original time and place, or that replic...
by Salmoneus
19 Jul 2020 13:31
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: The Sixth Conversation Thread
Replies: 248
Views: 19604

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

Perhaps, rather than passive aggression, you could respond to posts you "simply don't care all that much about" by ignoring them? Nobody here is under any obligation to entertain you, or anybody else. The rubric at the top up there says "discuss constructed languages, cultures, worlds, related scien...
by Salmoneus
19 Jul 2020 13:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: CBB Conlang Relay XII - ONGOING (signups remain open)
Replies: 105
Views: 2827

Re: CBB Conlang Relay XII - IT BEGINS (signups remain open)

Since Click hasn't replied, here or by PM, maybe they've not started, and Frislander could be bumped up to start now?