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by Bob
15 Aug 2020 20:46
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett
Replies: 4
Views: 14

Re: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett

Here's a facebook post image by me giving an etymology of the word for "grasshopper" in 1600s Massachusett. https://i.ibb.co/r44CdFk/92739141-1209821509188403-8388567348134543360-n.jpg I think that -ONT is a uncommon variant of -ONK (common verb to noun suffix) but I maybe haven't looked it up yet. ...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 20:42
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett
Replies: 4
Views: 14

Re: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett

It's funny, the etymologies are typically like ( possessor (his) - noun prefix - root reduplicated three times in different ways due to ablaut - maybe other roots, the weird sorts you find in Native American languages - many word building suffixes whose meaning, if any, is obscure - further possesso...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 20:09
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett
Replies: 4
Views: 14

Re: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett

Notably, before discovering the importance of this language in its etymologies, I don't think I expected to find what I found. Though it's obvious what the language contains because it's mostly a translation of the KJV Bible, so to speak. (It's actually with heavy reference to the Biblical Hebrew an...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 19:58
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett
Replies: 4
Views: 14

Re: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett

The IPA of the sample is something like: k^wat wataapiiniimuuwaank ahtiija ... a : schwa aa: IPA a ii : IPA i uu : IPA u k^w : like qu in quick For an example of word-building, WUTTAPENEAMOOONK : his delight I think the core root is PEN but I can't think of what it might mean. I'll make a folk etymo...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 19:38
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett
Replies: 4
Views: 14

The Second Most Important Historical Native American Language: 1600s Massachusett

Quick thoughts on studying the 1600s Narragansett Language (aka Wampanoag aka Massachusett) for my Narragansett and Wampanoag friends and others: This language is actually the second most important historical Native American language because of its heavy influence on English and the early years in w...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 00:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 48
Views: 1225

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

Whoops! No, my two last large posts were on my Ferengi Languages thread. I'll keep these images here but now these languages will have to wait a week or so for when I present my translations. They took me so much time, I should really post them tomorrow or so and make them into websites. And then in...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 00:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 48
Views: 1225

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

Here's some images to go with the last sizeable post which I did to this thread. On facebook, it's very good to include images so you can track posts easier in the images-only view. Also, I'm like half language scientist, half anthropologist, and half art historian. Because I study logographic writi...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 00:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

People are very kind to me here on Conlang Bulletin Board. Would anyone like for me to do a post about a Classical Chinese text I'm studying? I am now studying from the gigantic, new bilingual translation of the 200s BCE "Lotus Sutra" text from Ancient India translated way back when into Classical C...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 00:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Here's the facebook post images I came up with for the my most recent essay about the Ferengi Languages. It's the title card from the episode. Making post images is good because there's a photos only view of posts. Also, because I study all logographic writing systems, I have studied a tremendous am...
by Bob
15 Aug 2020 00:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

SOME SONGS AND DISCUSSION OF THE ANTHROPOLOGY OF WEALTH AND ESL IN ASIA When I do posts about languages and writing systems I'm studying, I like to include songs that have some thematic relevance and which I listen to in between or during studying or writing. my love, westlife, with lyrics https://w...
by Bob
14 Aug 2020 22:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

"ABOUT THE MOHAWKS AND THE BEES" Someone asked about this but I don't have time to tag them. Yeah, but then about me being Mohawk by blood, it's actually like 5% from the 1700s. Which is controversial because a lot of Native Americans on facebook groups, from around the world, do not think 5% is eno...
by Bob
14 Aug 2020 22:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Essay: Star Trek Writers made a Very Sophisticated Conlang or Pseudo-Conlang for the 2002 Episode "Acquisition": Discovered by Me ( Quick background: I have a BA Linguistics from Michigan State University in 2009 and for 15 years have specialized in the study of ancient languages and of language dec...
by Bob
14 Aug 2020 05:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Reply to previous replies to this one: The X-Sampa didn't end up being that big of a deal, if they were using that. It's all explained clearly enough for me. That was for the 1995 one. ... sangi39, 03 Aug 2020: I'm just doing this language because Yuri my Okrand Atlantean Language facebook group adm...
by Bob
14 Aug 2020 04:28
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

More progresss on this project: So I've made working notes on the 1995 grammar and on Part 1 of the Amino website post from 2017. The 1995 Ferengi Language only seems to be based on a few words in Ferengi from "official" books or tv shows, etc. I just read in some old book that I have, something lik...
by Bob
12 Aug 2020 22:58
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Then here's a song for the study of Ferengi Languages: Mine, Mine, Mine, Pocahontas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSfYrPdTKVA I'm actually one of 10 skilled scholars to ever do extensive work on the 1600s language of Pocahontas, that of the Indians around Jamestown Colony, of the Pohwatan Empire. ...
by Bob
12 Aug 2020 22:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Because Ferengi lacks a dictionary like Klingon and Vulcan, I'm thinking of actually somehow using my new English to Pali or Pali to English dictionaries to come up with words. Mostly because I have yet to do much work exploring them or making indexes for them. And they look very interesting. (You k...
by Bob
12 Aug 2020 22:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 48
Views: 1225

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

So I finished the Vulcan translation and hope to get it online maybe in a week. But the hand-written notes and optional grammar expansions might take another month or so to get online. And the same goes for my work on Klingon and Mutsun. I recently did a huge post about both Vulcan Languages and now...
by Bob
12 Aug 2020 22:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

MORE THOUGHTS ON THE FERENGI LANGUAGES AND MY UPCOMING TRANSLATIONS INTO THEM I don't think David Salo had much to do with the 1995 Timothy Miller conlang. Both it and the Animo one (by screen name person "GeekyDreams" associated somehow with a (seemingly actual, probably Linguistics) "Professor Car...
by Bob
12 Aug 2020 18:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

THOUGHTS ON THE VULCAN AND FERENGI CONLANGS, PSEUDO-CONLANGS, AND FICTIONAL PEOPLES: BY AN AMATEUR LANGUAGE SCIENTIST AND ANTHROPOLOGIST CONTENTS introduction the quality and qualities of these conlangs; 15 years of research prefaces this who made these languages and why? star trek appeals to both a...
by Bob
11 Aug 2020 07:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 54
Views: 1088

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

You know what? I may do some of the "The Rules of Acquisition" instead. I was actually going to do c 1800s maybe part Gypsy dieting proverbs from England. Really amazing stuff. I don't know, "The Rules of Acquisition" are not very wholesome. But I do love texts like this. I study ancient law codes e...