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by Vlürch
20 Nov 2021 21:41
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]
Replies: 30
Views: 5314

Re: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]

"Viitsiä" comes from western dialects. Wiktionary says it comes from Proto-Finnic , and has a list of cognates in all Finnic languages.🤔 In eastern dialects, it is "keh(d)ata". Really, they have the same meaning in some dialects? To me, that means specifically "to not be as...
by Vlürch
20 Nov 2021 12:52
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]
Replies: 30
Views: 5314

Re: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography

*/ʃt/ > /ht/ has happened in Finnic, along with general /ʃ/ > /h/: lehti 'leaf' < * lešte , heinä 'hay' < * šaina etc. But this happened at some stage in Proto-Finnic Somehow I managed to completely forget about that. [:$] Maybe subconsciously I was partially thinking of that, though... it having h...
by Vlürch
19 Nov 2021 16:57
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]
Replies: 30
Views: 5314

Re: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]

Do the southern or eastern Finnic languages have /ts/? Most of them do have some kind of affricate, either /t͡ʃ/ or /t͡s/, but the correspondences aren't entirely regular (or at least I have no idea about the rules for when what became what, they must be very complex). Does the sound/cluster in que...
by Vlürch
19 Nov 2021 09:58
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]
Replies: 30
Views: 5314

Re: False cognates

t͡s => t.s => s(1).t => ht (mehtä metät) You're right, something like that could also make sense for that shift, I hadn't even thought of a possibility like that. Personally I just thought it's the same kind of thing as how Swedish /f/ was traditionally (and still is in some dialects) replaced with...
by Vlürch
18 Nov 2021 07:06
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]
Replies: 30
Views: 5314

Re: False cognates

it's generally assumed that it was actually /θ/ or /θ:/ (/ts/ in Finnish being a dialectalism that has since spread to the standard language, possibly partially as a spelling pronunciation). I keep hearing this, but with time I've gotten very sceptical about it because I've never heard a single arg...
by Vlürch
17 Nov 2021 18:25
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Questions on Finnish and Estonian Phonology and Orthography [split]
Replies: 30
Views: 5314

Re: False cognates

Is the /hr/ cluster even allowed in Finnish? Yes, for example: tahra - stain vihreä - green uhri - victim (Swedish loanword) kehrätä - to purr (of cats; Indo-Iranian loanword) Also, dialects where /d/ is replaced with /r/ have it a lot more, for example: mahdoton -> mahroton - impossible kahden -> ...
by Vlürch
17 Nov 2021 17:42
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1123
Views: 292628

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Are interjections especially likely to be borrowed from one language to another, relative to other parts of speech, and to how many interjections each of the source language and borrowing language has? Is the ease of borrowing interjections versus other parts of speech, significantly greater when t...
by Vlürch
17 Nov 2021 16:23
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences
Replies: 883
Views: 279338

Re: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences

I just found out about this Aramaic word, not necessarily a "proper" false friend since there's no way they'd ever be mixed up, but still interesting because of the oppositeness: Aramaic קרישתא /qæriʃtaʔ/ - cold, frozen Finnish käristä! /kæristæ(ʔ)/ - roast!, burn! [food; imperative] The F...
by Vlürch
20 Oct 2021 19:03
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3474
Views: 325864

Re: Romanization game #2

/p b t d k g/ <p b t d c g>
/f v s z x ɣ/ <f v s z h r>
/m n/ <m n>
/l j w/ <l ĕ ŏ>

/i u/ <i u>
/e o/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

Next:

/m n ŋ/
/p b t d k g/
/c͡ç ɟ͡ʝ/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
/s z ʃ ʒ/
/f v θ ð j x ɣ h/
/r l/

/æ ə ɪ ɞ/
/ɑː aː ɛː eː iː ɔː oː ɵː uː ʉː/
by Vlürch
12 Oct 2021 19:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1734
Views: 361178

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I have no idea about Solresol, but if you want colours and notes... why not have initial consonants mapped to colours, vowels to notes and final consonants to their softness/hardness (whatever the technical term is)? Sticking to 12 notes per octave for simplicity's sake, and 12 colours just because ...
by Vlürch
12 Oct 2021 19:09
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3474
Views: 325864

Re: Romanization game #2

/p b t d k g ʔ/ <p b t d k g ķ> /f s z ɕ ʑ h/ <f s z ş j h> /t͡s t͡ɕ/ <c ç> /m n ŋ/ <m n ņ> /l j w/ <l y v> /ɽ/ <r> /i y ʉ ɯ u/ <i ü w ï u> /e ø ɤ o/ <e ö ë o> /a ɒ/ <ä a> Next: /m n̪ ɳ ɲ ŋ/ /p t̪ ʈ c k/ /pː t̪ː ʈː cː kː/ /s̪ ʂ ɕ/ /s̪ː ʂː ɕː/ /v ð ɻ j ɣ/ /fː θː xː/ /l̪ ɭ ʎ/ /a ɛ i ɔ u / /aː ɛː iː ɔː...
by Vlürch
24 Sep 2021 20:43
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3474
Views: 325864

Re: Romanization game #2

/p pʰ pʼ t tʰ tʼ k kʰ kʼ k͡p k͡pʰ k͡pʼ/ <p ph ᵽ t th ŧ k kh ḳ q qh ꝗ> /f s ʃ h/ <f s x h> /t͡s t͡sʰ t͡sʼ t͡ʃ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃʼ/ <z zh ż c ch ċ> /m n ŋ ŋ͡m/ <m n g ñ> /l j w/ <l j v> /r/ <r> /i iː u uː/ <i ī u ū> /e eː/ <e ē> /a aː/ <a ā> Next: /m n̪ n̺ ɲ ŋ/ /p b t̪ d̪ t̺ d̺ c ɟ k g ʔ/ /t̪͡s̪ d̪͡z̪ t̺͡s̺ d̺͡...
by Vlürch
24 Sep 2021 17:25
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: Other Creativity
Replies: 1365
Views: 362771

Re: Other Creativity

Enjoy! <3 Sounds cool! The vocals don't sound at all bad to my ears, they fit the track just fine how they are. Maybe a little bit "dry" and low in the mix at times, but of course vocals don't always have to be front and centre anyway. The drums are very punchy, which is nice, and the syn...
by Vlürch
21 Sep 2021 23:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Should I/How to add phonotactics to phonotactics - less languages?
Replies: 6
Views: 1044

Re: Should I/How to add phonotactics to phonotactics - less languages?

1. Keep them as they are and continue living? Conlangs aren't something to die over, so yeah, you should continue living. [:O] Sorry, couldn't resist... But in all seriousness, what Creyeditor said. Also keep in mind that it's possible that phonotactics that generally hold aren't absolute. Onomatop...
by Vlürch
21 Sep 2021 04:55
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Allophonic /ħ/
Replies: 2
Views: 1065

Re: Allophonic /ħ/

Yeah, Finnish /h/ is... uh... especially if you start paying attention to the inconsistencies and worst of all semi-inconsistencies, it's baffling. You'll think you know how a given individual pronounces it in which contexts, but then they'll throw a random [h͡xʲʶˤ] at you and you're like "wait...
by Vlürch
21 Sep 2021 02:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1734
Views: 361178

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

If your language doesn't use <y> or <w>, you could always just use them for schwa and then make a little note. The people who care would have cared anyway and the ones who don't wouldn't anyway. It does use both, specifically this is the phonology and orthography: /m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /p b t d k g/ <p ...
by Vlürch
20 Sep 2021 17:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1734
Views: 361178

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

The way I figure it, the people most likely to read fantasy stories on the Internet are nerds, geeks, metalheads, and goths. That's probably pretty accurate. Or maybe your readerbase consists heavily of people from Northern European countries in Continental Europe where the native languages don't h...
by Vlürch
20 Sep 2021 02:40
Forum: Games
Topic: Cyrillisation game #2
Replies: 124
Views: 55752

Re: Cyrillisation game #2

/p t c k q/ <б д ч г ҕ> /f s h/ <п с х> /t͡s k͡x q͡χ/ <ц к ӄ> /m n ŋ ɴ/ <м н ҥ ӈ> /l j/ <л ј> /r/ <р> /i ɨ u/ <и ы у> /e o/ <е о> /ɛ ɔ/ <ӗ ӑ> /a/ <а> Next: /m̥ m n̥ n/ /p b t d k g q/ /t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ /s z ʃ ʒ/ /f v (j) ʍ w ç~χ ʝ~ʁ/ /r̥ r ɬ l ʀ/ /ɑ ɤ ɯ ɔ u/ /(ʲ)æ (ʲ)e (ʲ)i (ʲ)ɵ (ʲ)ʉ/ /ɑː ɤː ɯː ɔː uː/ /(ʲ)æ...
by Vlürch
20 Sep 2021 02:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1734
Views: 361178

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

English Respelling uses UH right? As a German speaker, I would also chose <ö> btw. The problem with <uh> is that it looks really, really, really ugly. Not that <ö> looks pretty or anything, and English-speakers might think it's just /o/ and some will probably even think it's supposed to be an exagg...
by Vlürch
19 Sep 2021 16:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1734
Views: 361178

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

No - nobody knows that a rotated 'e' indicates a schwa, and if they did they wouldn't know what a schwa was. I mean, there's a non-zero chance that they might randomly guess a schwa-like sound, because people do sort of revert to more 'grunty' sounds when they don't know how something can be said, ...