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by Omzinesý
29 Jan 2024 21:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347773

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Transitivity is a messy term. Semantic transitivity: an agent somehow changes the patient. Syntactic transitivity: the verb has a direct object. The two are of course linked, because the syntactic transitive construction is defined as the one coding a prototypical transitive semantic action, basical...
by Omzinesý
29 Jan 2024 20:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: River Skasti (new grammar)
Replies: 54
Views: 11341

Re: Yulá Skásti (new grammar)

I am still working out the wider implications that this idea could entail, but I am looking to make Yulá Skásti Maskǫ́łe (The River Skasti Language) into a philosophical language of a sort. I could derive a people for this, but I likely won't. This is becoming a way that I derived to take my though...
by Omzinesý
27 Jan 2024 21:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 570
Views: 155497

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

p t k kʷ ʔ <p t k qu '> t͡s k͡s <c x> s h <s h> m n ŋ <m n ng> β l ɹ j ɰ w <b l r y g w> i ʉ <i u> o <o> ä <a> CGV(:)U G: β l ɹ j w <b l r y w> U: p̚ t̚ k̚ k̚ʷ ʔ̚ A second version: t' k' kʷ' <tt kk qq> p t k kʷ ʔ <p t k qu '> t͡s k͡s <c x> s h <s h> m n ŋ <m n ng> l ɹ j w <l r y w> i ʉ <i u> o <o> ...
by Omzinesý
27 Jan 2024 20:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: SBäk e Dlor
Replies: 70
Views: 5601

Re: SBäk e Dlor

Dlor adjectives are a closed small class. Most adjectival meanings are expressed with a static verb. But it's boring always to use the relative marker ra. Maybe s- could relativize static verbs. They don't form middle voice anyways so s- is free.
by Omzinesý
27 Jan 2024 19:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 735
Views: 207392

Re: What did you accomplish today?

I started (gain) translating the sentences of the The Snowball Game Returns -thread. I translated the four first ones into Dlor today. Cos I'm lazy I just copy the code Latex if somebody is super interested. \begin{exe} \ex \label{ex:Arabic}%empty! \label{} \gll Mül Jêsakr bënen lu s-keeb ú ka sa Ka...
by Omzinesý
27 Jan 2024 09:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random ideas: Morphosyntax
Replies: 900
Views: 207302

Re: Random ideas: Morphosyntax

yiw waʈa ᴀɴɪᴍᴀʟ dog 'a/the dog' waʈara dog-sᴛᴠ (singulative) 'a/the dog' What's the difference between these two? I have also tried to make a classifier system of generic nouns (Aikhenvald definiteness them as a type of classifiers in her broad definition), but I always failed. I started to make th...
by Omzinesý
26 Jan 2024 15:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 570
Views: 155497

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

p t k kʷ ʔ <p t k qu '> t͡s k͡s <c x> s h <s h> m n ŋ <m n ng> β l ɹ j ɰ w <b l r y g w> i ʉ <i u> o <o> ä <a> CGV(:)U G: β l ɹ j w <b l r y w> U: p̚ t̚ k̚ k̚ʷ ʔ̚ A second version: t' k' kʷ' <tt kk qq> p t k kʷ ʔ <p t k qu '> t͡s k͡s <c x> s h <s h> m n ŋ <m n ng> l ɹ j w <l r y w> i ʉ <i u> o <o> ...
by Omzinesý
25 Jan 2024 21:42
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: SBäk e Dlor
Replies: 70
Views: 5601

Re: SBäk e Dlor

I could test the ergative idea that I have been using in my speedlangs. This could be an interesting idea. Intransitive clauses are VS. Transitive clauses are either SVO or VO by S. Tlee kool mas i build house 'I built a house.' Kool mas na tlee built house BY i 'I built a house.' It is also possibl...
by Omzinesý
21 Jan 2024 21:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 570
Views: 155497

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

p t k kʷ ʔ <p t k qu '>
t͡s k͡s <c x>
s h <s h>
m n ŋ <m n ng>
β l ɹ j ɰ w <b l r y g w>

i ʉ <i u>
o <o>
ä <a>

CGV(:)U

G: β l ɹ j w <b l r y w>
U: p̚ t̚ k̚ k̚ʷ ʔ̚
by Omzinesý
21 Jan 2024 20:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: SBäk e Dlor
Replies: 70
Views: 5601

Re: SBäk e Dlor

Omzinesý wrote: 20 Jan 2024 11:29
kü-lam 'to eat hair' (whatever that means)
ku-läm 'beard' (hair+mouth)
I decided this is the best solution. They though cannot be called "instrumental prefixes" anymore because the unstressed versions are not instrumental.
by Omzinesý
21 Jan 2024 20:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: SBäk e Dlor
Replies: 70
Views: 5601

Re: SBäk e Dlor

Numbers kjee 'one' lee 'two' mi 'tree' ba 'four' ju 'five' ri 'six' nue 'seven' lua 'eight' kjua 'nine' ua 'ten' bokjee 'eleven' bolee 'twelve' bomi 'thirteen' boba 'fourteen' boju 'fifteen' bori 'sixteen' bonue 'seventeen' bolua 'eighteen' bokjua 'nineteen' bo- is the prefix for 'hand(s)'. It also ...
by Omzinesý
20 Jan 2024 12:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 570
Views: 155497

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

t' k' q'
p t k q ʔ
f θ s ɬ x χ ħ h
ʋ ɹ ɣ ʁ ʕ
m n (ɴ)

Consonant clusters: stop + continuant
by Omzinesý
20 Jan 2024 11:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: SBäk e Dlor
Replies: 70
Views: 5601

Re: SBäk e Dlor

Maybe the instrumental prefixes could be added to nouns as suffixes to derive nouns. ku-läm 'to eat hair' (whatever that means) läm-ku 'beard' (hair+mouth) That would need maro morphological processes cos Dlor does not allow consonant clusters. Or maybe they could still be prefixes but have some sup...
by Omzinesý
19 Jan 2024 11:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347773

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Dlor has (at the current state) four pitch-registers: neutral/low tone, modal voice high tone, modal voice neutral/low tone, breathy voice neutral/low tone, creaky voice The root has one of the three but if the words has prefixes the pitch-register moves to the first syllable. I have tried to keep t...
by Omzinesý
16 Jan 2024 20:37
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: SBäk e Dlor
Replies: 70
Views: 5601

Re: SBäk e Dlor

I think I could test this idea https://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=327072#p327072 in Dlor. Dlor voices are formed adding a preposition before the verb. by-write 'writer' (the one by whome something is written) in-write 'writing place' I have never seen such derivation but maybe it could be natural....
by Omzinesý
16 Jan 2024 20:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random ideas: Morphosyntax
Replies: 900
Views: 207302

Re: Random ideas: Morphosyntax

Polysemy between voices and nominalizations. Donald mour hom. D bake cake 'Donald baked a cake.' Hom ma-mour sa Donald. cake PASS-bake by D 'The cake was baked by Donald.' Ma-mour la fotah. NMZR-bake be delicious 'The baked one is delicious.' Donald sa-mour D ANTIP-bake 'Donald baked [something].' ...
by Omzinesý
15 Jan 2024 15:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random ideas: Morphosyntax
Replies: 900
Views: 207302

Re: Random ideas: Morphosyntax

Polysemy between voices and nominalizations. Donald mour hom. D bake cake 'Donald baked a cake.' Hom ma-mour sa Donald. cake PASS-bake by D 'The cake was baked by Donald.' Ma-mour la fotah. NMZR-bake be delicious 'The baked one is delicious.' Donald sa-mour D ANTIP-bake 'Donald baked [something].' S...
by Omzinesý
13 Jan 2024 17:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347773

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

How naturalistic of a system would this be regarding ditransitive verbs? If "X causes Y to go to Z", then indirect alignment (e.g. I-NOM throw a ball-ACC to you-DAT) If "X causes Z to have Y", then secundative alignment (e.g. I-NOM give you-ACC a ball-INS) And my language would,...
by Omzinesý
12 Jan 2024 11:30
Forum: Translations
Topic: The horse does not eat cucumber salad
Replies: 18
Views: 3658

Re: The horse does not eat cucumber salad

:con: Euta One can say (1), which rather means 'Horse does not like to eat ...' or (2), which means that 'Horse cannot ...'. (1) <Pudo-maho đu salara-púhu-jųngu.> Pudo-ma-ho đu salara-púhu-kųngu animal-NMLZ_TR-move dislike.DIRECT pipe-greenness 'The horse does not eat cucumber salad' (2) <Pudo-maho ...
by Omzinesý
12 Jan 2024 11:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Euta language
Replies: 37
Views: 15152

Re: Euta language

Words used: Nouns: heesa 'capability' 'ability' kópeda 'love (romantic)' kųngu 'green(ness)' púhu 'pipe' púhu-jųngu 'cucumber' (green pipe) puro 'animal' (mammal, dogs, horses ...) tųųje 'honey' salara 'salad' seka 'pot' Verbs: đu 'dislike' lo 'to have' 'to be there' general modal verb wi 'like' Par...