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:con: Dlor Ká, be-bék sa! sg2.VOC, ANDAT-find sg3 'Go and find him!' Ka 'you' is the only word that has a special vocative form ká . Dlor has an andative form 'to go and V'. Imperative always demands a vocative "subject", like ká . Bék 'to find' can be used in the imperative. Rábek 'to loo...

I don't remember if we have discussed this before.
Which languages have both incorporation and noun classes / genders?
How do they interact? What happens to noun class markers when the noun is incorporated?

I quite from Piketty.


For Giacomo Todeschini, the idea of "the underserving poor" can be traced back to the Middle Ages and perhaps more generally to the end of slavery and forced labor and outright ownership of the poor classes by the wealthy classes.

:con: Dlor (still lazy with fully cleaning LaTex) \gll Jö-nwim \\ \textsc{ven}-cat\\ 'There was a cat.'\glt \gll Nín u sín sa. \\ be.small and be.white \textsc{sg3}\\ 'She was small and white.'\glt \gll Sód kwi-s-kòom sa, kü-lem. \\ when.\textsc{anterior} eye-\textsc{middle}-be.open \textsc{sg3} \te...

How to derives verbs 'to be hungry' from 'to eat'? 'to mind-eat' maybe?

I at last completed the cat and fish story!

I got stuck with word 'jump' in Cat and fish story.
Most of verb derivation is based on body parts in Dlor. It could well be something like 'leg-jump' but the root would still be the same.
'Leg-fly' maybe?

But I'd also say: bear in mind that Latin hadn't even eliminated its own stress irregularities - there were a whole bunch of words that didn't obey the normal rules and weren't regularised. So expecting immediate regularisation of a whole heap of new irregulars may be unrealistic. I didn't know tha...

Visions1 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2024 21:56 Instead of a Nom-Acc-Gen or Nom-Acc-Obl distinction,
have an Ablative-Allative-Oblique distinction.

Is this an answer to some older discussion?
What do you mean? All languages have to have a subject case.

I should go to motion verbs. Something preliminary: Dlor motion verbs code very much. Applicative prepositions do not affect them. They are used like applicatives are used with any verb. Associated motion prefixes behave differently with motion verbs. While jo- usually means 'to came and V', with mo...

But I'd also say: bear in mind that Latin hadn't even eliminated its own stress irregularities - there were a whole bunch of words that didn't obey the normal rules and weren't regularised. So expecting immediate regularisation of a whole heap of new irregulars may be unrealistic. I didn't know tha...

How weird would it be for a language with split-ergativity to encode grammatical aspect in the verb, but uses the ergativity split for some other criteria than aspect? Like the split is based on animacy, for instance? Not weird at all. Aspect is just one possible split of a split alignment. I don't...

I checked all 42 prefixes and proclitics of Dlor. I haven't been very coherent while making them. Many unintended homonyms appear. ba PREPOSITION 'as' PREPOSITION 'made of' NUMERAL 'four' ma FIELD PREFIX 'with a vehicle' PREPOSITION 'INSTRUMENT' mi DISTRIBUTIVE PLURAL NUMERAL ''three' mo FIELD PREFI...

In future NE Areyaxi, definiteness is basically a way of saying "I would use anaphora for this but that would be ambiguous." In future Aryayaxi and Orayoxe, the definite article basically means "you know which one I mean (because I mentioned it)," the indefinite article means &q...

Now we get to the argument that Vulgar Latin didn't really lose long vowels but the contrast between short and long vowels. I think this is quite much what Salmoneus said. So, the surface form and underlying form/rule cannot change simultaneously. Either what Greyeditor suggested 1) Surface form ch...

In future NE Areyaxi, definiteness is basically a way of saying "I would use anaphora for this but that would be ambiguous." In future Aryayaxi and Orayoxe, the definite article basically means "you know which one I mean (because I mentioned it)," the indefinite article means &q...

Just to clarify: your idea is to lose vowel length but keep the synchronic latin stress rule leading to many (diachronic) stress shifts, right? Yes Sounds naturalistic but I would frame it slightly different. You lose vowel length, keep stress positions (so in a way 'lose' the synchronic stress rul...

How plausible it would be that a Romlang preserved Latin phonetic stressing after the loss of vowel length?

cantāre has the stress on the penultimate syllable.
=> cantare would have the stress on the antepenultimate syllable

My romlang idea.

p t t͡s k (ks) <p t c/ç c/qu (x)>
f θ s x <f ŧ s ꝁ>
v ð z ɣ <v d z g>
m n ɲ <m n gn>
l r j <l r j>

Having <ꝁ> without <k> is a bit strange. Maybe <c̄>.

What if all location prepositions (they don't have to be such an open class as in English) had a deictic meaning?

Ro bam 'in the house (there)'
Pa bam 'in the house (here)'
But cannot just say 'in the house'.

Maybe it appears in some natlangs?