The CBB

/p t c k/ p t c k
/ɸ s ɕ h/ f s x h
/t͡s/ z
/m n ɲ/ m n g
/ʋ l j ʎ/ w l i y
/r rʲ/ r j

/i u/ e u
/e/ è
/æ/ a
/ɑ/ o


Next:

/d k ɡ q/
/θ ʃ ɣ h/
/ʋ l ɾ j/

ATR /i ɨ u e ə/
RTR /i̙ ɨ̙ u̙ e̙ ə̙/ (roughly /ɪ ɘ ʊ ɛ a/)

:con: Wåpwopwåhisi Eveniméʻaʻokeveo miwåpwopwåhisi måwubwå, mikobwåmwo iumemiéwåbwåʻåwuu énin iisihiyéwåbwåmwépiu énin iiʻiméwåbwåå, veʻau pwopwåhit mwåwubwå. [œβʲœnʲymʲøʔäʔəkœβʲœː mʲywɔpʷopʷɔhisi mʷɔwubʷɔ | mʲykobʷɔmʷo yːmʲœmʲyøwɔbʷɔʔɔwuː enʲinʲ iːsihijøwɔbʷɔmʷøpʲyː enʲinʲ iːʔymʲøwɔbʷɔː | βʲœʔäɨ pʷ...

Kokhene Kool Idea №5 : Wåpwopwåhisi Like fifty years ago I posted a little Micronesian inventory: /pʲ pˠ tʲ k/ /bʲ bˠ dʲ ɡ/ /mʲ mˠ/ /ɸʲ ɸˠ ɕ x/ /βʲ~ɥ βˠ~w ʑ~j ɣ~ɰ/ /ə/ [i~ə] /ɐ/ [a~ɤ] I randomly found it the other day and decided to beat some life back into it. Here's the revised version: pʲ pʷ tʲ ...

In what kind of vowel inventories does /ʉ/ (close central rounded vowel) appear? Wikipedia has a very short list. Generally it functions as part of an F2-intermediate series between "front unrounded" and "back rounded", so it's roughly equivalent to /ɨ/, /y/ or /ɯ/. Take Natügu ...

At a glance, Hungarian has at least 144 personal pronouns (and another 119 reflexive and reciprocal pronouns) so 66 is by no means a stretch. However, much of the case marking is regular in Hungarian.

Ælfwine wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024 22:47 Thinking again of a romlang, except perhaps nestled somewhere in North Italy, amongst all those other weird and wonderful Italian dialects there. Key feature might be a shift of stress to the initial syllable due to widespread pretonic syncope.

Gotta love a romlang with initial stress

a priori in the strong sense languages, measure their success by the smallness of their lexicon... No they don't. oh you are adept at the new use of "a priori" for "with invented lexicon", note that I specified "in the strong sense", and that the length of my post does...

Kokhene Kool Idea №4: So Proto-Ąkuyookic has the following sonority hierarchy: ​ ​ ​ ​ ​​ t k ʔ → s → h → ɾ → j w To make a cluster, you just take any one, two or three in order, and you get the following underlying forms: t k ʔ s h ɾ j w ts th tɾ tj tw ks kh kɾ kj kw ʔs ʔh ʔɾ ʔj ʔw sh sɾ sj sw hɾ ...

lsd wrote: ↑11 Feb 2024 08:46 a priori in the strong sense languages,
measure their success by the smallness of their lexicon...

No they don't.

Kokhene Kool Idea №3: There's an island called Ąkuyook off the coast of Kokhene's southern polar continent which has two not-super-closely related languages on it, which I've previously called Ǫneebǫwhítw and Icááwənun. My original idea for proto-Ąkuyookic was something like this: ​ ​ ​ ​ ​​ t ʒ k ...

/p pː b t tː d k kː ɡ ʔ/ p p' b t t' d k k' q h /f fː v s sː z ʃ ʃː ʒ x xː/ f f' w s s' z x x' g v v' /l j/ l y /r/ r /m n/ m n /t͡s t͡sː t͡ʃ t͡ʃː/ c c' j j' /i u/ i u /ɛ ɔ/ e o /ɑ/ a Why wouldn't I do a nine-phoneme analysis of Wichita? /t k ʔ/ /s h/ /ɾ w/ /i a/ /i iː iːː/ /i í/ /kawáːɾah ɾaháiítsʔ...

/t d k g q ʔ/ <t d k g q ɂ> /tʼ kʼ qʼ/ <tˀ kˀ qˀ> /kʷ gʷ qʷ ʔʷ/ <ko go qo ɂo> /kʷʼ qʷʼ/ <koˀ qoˀ> /s x χ/ <s c x> /sʼ xʼ χʼ/ <sˀ cˀ xˀ> /ɬ/ <l> /ɬʼ/ <lˀ> /l j ɰ/ <r y v> /i iː u uː/ <i ii u uu> /ə̃ ə̃ː/ <ą ąą> /a aː/ <a aa> /◌́ ◌̄ ◌̀/ <í íí, i ii, ì ìì> /◌̤ ◌̰/ <iʰ iiʰ, iˀ iiˀ> /sísə̰̃ tʼúktāːkə̰̃ː ...

I feel like we're playing tennis /p b t d k g/ p b t d k g /f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ f v s ṡ ȷ j x ǧ h /t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ z ż c ċ /m n ŋ/ m n ň /l j w/ l y w /r/ r /i iː u uː/ i ī u ū /e eː o oː/ e ē o ō /a aː/ a ā /p t c k/ /b d ɟ ɡ/ /ɓ ɗ ʄ ʔ/ /w l j/ /ʔw ʔl ʔj/ /m n ɲ/ /ʔm ʔn ʔɲ/ /s/ + ATR /i u/ [e o ə] ...

Kokhene Kool Idea №2: For the Click languages, there's still gonna be a major divide of "grasslands" vs. "northern". There's several stages of Grassland Clickness spreading out eastwards. All GC languages metathesise clicks into the foot onset: *pɛŋ̊ǁˀɛ → PGC *ɡǁk’ʷɛ → GC1 /ɡǁk’...

Inspired by Crey's nifty Fredauon Fun Facts thread, I'm making one of my own (luckily I realised in time that copying his alliteration wouldn't be the best idea), with the caveat that it's gonna mostly be language-related rather than conworld-related, and it's gonna be nebulous ideas rather than int...

/p b t d c ɟ k g k͡p g͡b/ p b t d c j k g kp gb /ɸ β s z h/ f v s z h /t͡s t͡ɬ/ z ł /m n ɲ ŋ ŋ͡m/ m n ñ ṇ n̄ /l j ʎ w/ l y ý w /r/ r /i u/ i u /e ø ɤ o/ e ö ë o /æ/ ä /ɑ/ a Next: /t d ʤ ʔ/ /n ɲ/ /θ s ʃ h/ /i e o a/ /ẽ õ/ /Vː/ /dõʤoːtõniʤ ʔɲẽhẽɲ tsahẽ θotʤoːʤiːʃ | niʤinnihʤẽːʤθehiʃ teʃhẽʤnõton || tid...

Nice phonology. I especially like the tone system, it's simple but interesting. Most pre-nasalised consonants cannot occur initially, excepting /ᵐb/ which occurs not infrequently (but often unnasalised) Was there a natlang inspiration for this specific feature? Not that I don't think it's realistic,...

There's also the Vulgarlang conlang generator which is alright although a bit Standard Fantasy Language-ey. I don't think it is very good at naturalism. And way too European. (Of course, its creator is on this forum and I've already insulted them enough in the thread they made for feedback, so I'll...

Fredauon Fun Fact #13: Evolution on Fredauon is Lamarckian in the following restricted sense: characteristics gradually acquired by use or disuse of certain body parts are inheritable. This is because cells inside organs that are used more frequently or less frequently change their internal buildin...

There's also the Vulgarlang conlang generator which is alright although a bit Standard Fantasy Language-ey.