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Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 23 Jul 2020 02:19
by Linguifex
Bob wrote:
21 Jul 2020 08:09
Especially logographic conscripts are extremely lame. But a lot of things that I look for in logographic writing systems, I discovered within the past 15 years. It's all these little things that nobody even knows to look for.
I am aware this is an opinion, but I take offense to that. I worked hard (with the generous input of others) to make Caber, and having seen other logographic scripts (particularly clawgrip’s), I would not want to throw them all in the dustbin as “lame” by inherent quality—to say nothing of conscripts in general.

Perhaps you, with your degree in linguistics, find no enjoyment in them. I, with my degree, do (as do many others, in various states of having, working towards, or lacking degrees). Please don’t decry an entire subfield of the art just because it’s not, strictly speaking, as intricately made as in real life.

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 01 Aug 2020 05:08
by Bob
Linguifex wrote:
23 Jul 2020 02:19
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You just read what I wrote the wrong way. I didn't mean it like that. I think I was just replying to the original post and none of the others. I don't remember seeing your conscript before I replied to this post. I think I missed something, then. I notice on Conlang Bulletin Board and Zompist Bboard that posts will have interesting prompts or concepts but then go on for 10 pages and I don't have time to read all that. So I've been trying to make clear that my reply is only to the initial and post subject topic.

The point of my reply is that I specialize in conscripts and logographic writing systems and that most people really just scratch the tip of the iceberg. I did say that I almost always have to humor people who do logographic conscripts - meaning that I am not so rigorous with them as most conlangers are with me when I post my own conlangs and conscripts. My point is that different conlangers should be allowed to have different priorities.

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 01 Aug 2020 11:44
by clawgrip
Bob wrote:
21 Jul 2020 08:09
But a lot of things that I look for in logographic writing systems, I discovered within the past 15 years. It's all these little things that nobody even knows to look for.
The point of my reply is that I specialize in conscripts and logographic writing systems and that most people really just scratch the tip of the iceberg.
Please give examples of some of the little things that nobody even knows to look for, leading them to create writing systems that only scratch the tip of the iceberg.
Especially logographic conscripts are extremely lame.
...when I post my own conlangs and conscripts.
Please post some of your own writing systems, explaining how they transcend other people's "lame" writing systems.
Nobody gets writing systems as well as I have.
If that's the case, I'm expecting some game-changing info here.

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 01 Aug 2020 12:24
by Pabappa
Linguifex wrote:
23 Jul 2020 02:19
I am aware this is an opinion, but I take offense to that. I worked hard (with the generous input of others) to make Caber,
i keep forgetting youre the one who created the Caber logograms ... i know i asked this before, but i think i lost track of it .... since the original thread got deleted, do you have them all collected anywhere online at the moment? Thanks.

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 01 Aug 2020 13:55
by Khemehekis
Pabappa wrote:
01 Aug 2020 12:24
i keep forgetting youre the one who created the Caber logograms ... i know i asked this before, but i think i lost track of it .... since the original thread got deleted, do you have them all collected anywhere online at the moment? Thanks.
The original thread wasn't deleted, it's here.

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 01 Aug 2020 15:17
by Pabappa
Khemehekis wrote:
01 Aug 2020 13:55
Pabappa wrote:
01 Aug 2020 12:24
i keep forgetting youre the one who created the Caber logograms ... i know i asked this before, but i think i lost track of it .... since the original thread got deleted, do you have them all collected anywhere online at the moment? Thanks.
The original thread wasn't deleted, it's here.
Thanks but I must have seen something else at some point, .... in fact, that's apparently the thread in which I asked where it had all gone. Perhaps Im just mistaken?? I thought he had a website with everything all in one place.
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Either way, I'd love to see updated versions of all the glyphs if you have the time.

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 02 Aug 2020 04:55
by sangi39
Pabappa wrote:
01 Aug 2020 15:17
Khemehekis wrote:
01 Aug 2020 13:55
Pabappa wrote:
01 Aug 2020 12:24
i keep forgetting youre the one who created the Caber logograms ... i know i asked this before, but i think i lost track of it .... since the original thread got deleted, do you have them all collected anywhere online at the moment? Thanks.
The original thread wasn't deleted, it's here.
Thanks but I must have seen something else at some point, .... in fact, that's apparently the thread in which I asked where it had all gone. Perhaps Im just mistaken?? I thought he had a website with everything all in one place.
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Either way, I'd love to see updated versions of all the glyphs if you have the time.
The Board did have a but of a blip back in... August (?) where posts over a certain age had to be removed, but they were brought back in the end. Might have something to do with that maybe?

Re: On making a conscript that doesn't suck.

Posted: 12 Aug 2020 04:30
by masako
clawgrip wrote:
01 Aug 2020 11:44
Bob wrote:
21 Jul 2020 08:09
But a lot of things that I look for in logographic writing systems, I discovered within the past 15 years. It's all these little things that nobody even knows to look for.
The point of my reply is that I specialize in conscripts and logographic writing systems and that most people really just scratch the tip of the iceberg.
Please give examples of some of the little things that nobody even knows to look for, leading them to create writing systems that only scratch the tip of the iceberg.
Especially logographic conscripts are extremely lame.
...when I post my own conlangs and conscripts.
Please post some of your own writing systems, explaining how they transcend other people's "lame" writing systems.
Nobody gets writing systems as well as I have.
If that's the case, I'm expecting some game-changing info here.
I would very much enjoy reading answers to these astoundingly interesting questions. I'm eager to learn how I might improve my horribly lame writing systems so that they may one day reach the exulted heights described by (checks notes), Bob.