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elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 28 Aug 2016 02:02
The last part of the word probably stems from PG *dōmaz, meaning judgment.
It is indeed from that stem. But, that's the easy half of the word!
shimobaatar wrote: Is the word a noun?
It is indeed. -az being nom.s. wordhoard form.
elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 28 Aug 2016 21:05
Creyeditor wrote: Ist the first part from Proto-Germanic *būaną?
No.
Wario Toad 32
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by Wario Toad 32 » 02 Sep 2016 19:01
I have 2
Rych /ʀɪx/
Bamhas /bamhas/
qwed117
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by qwed117 » 04 Sep 2016 20:53
elemtilas wrote: Next:
bôôuumdomaz
Does the ô represent an overlong o, a long o, or a "short" o (that is, oː o or ɔ)?
elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 16:33
qwed117 wrote: elemtilas wrote: Next:
bôôuumdomaz
Does the ô represent an overlong o, a long o, or a "short" o (that is, oː o or ɔ)?
"ôô" is overlong; "ô" is long and "o" is short. A hint might be that overlong vowels in Avantimannish always arise from some kind of set of sound changes. Perhaps two vowels collapse together; perhaps there is loss of some sound with compensatory lengthening.
qwed117
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by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 18:27
Is there more than 2 morphemes inside the compound?
elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 20:15
qwed117 wrote: Is there more than 2 morphemes inside the compound?
It is a compound of two Old Thietish (PrGmc) words. *dōmaz has already been identified. There are three morphemes, one of which is the nom.s. ending.
qwed117
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by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 20:42
Does the overlong ôô originate from a sequence involving a?
elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 22:21
qwed117 wrote: Does the overlong ôô originate from a sequence involving a?
"A" is indeed involved!
Are you narrowing down?
qwed117
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by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 22:34
Does the m stem from a nasalized vowel, or a true nasal? Maybe this is too much, but is the initial b- from PGm b?
Edit: So from what I understand in the morpheme "bôôuum" there's a vowel cluster, and an consonant (maybe cluster) that was/were later reduced.
elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 05 Sep 2016 23:38
qwed117 wrote: Does the m stem from a nasalized vowel, or a true nasal? Maybe this is too much, but is the initial b- from PGm b?
I don't think it's from a nasalised vowel, just an actual nasal.
So from what I understand in the morpheme "bôôuum" there's a vowel cluster, and an consonant (maybe cluster) that was/were later reduced.
Two sets of reductions, not necessarily contemporaneous.
qwed117
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by qwed117 » 05 Sep 2016 23:46
Does ôô come from au?
elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 06 Sep 2016 00:14
qwed117 wrote: Does ôô come from au?
Yes. This word probably had an "au" segment during during late Old Avantimannish times. Interestingly, a similar sound change was affecting the name of the language itself, which at that time was Auntimaniskaz, from an earlier Antimaniskaz.
Znex
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by Znex » 09 Sep 2016 17:54
If there is a missing consonant, is it a PG voiced fricative/stop?
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elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 09 Sep 2016 19:17
Znex wrote: If there is a missing consonant, is it a PG voiced fricative/stop?
Neither a voiced fricative or stop. Old Thietish stops are still stops in Avantimannish.
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by Znex » 10 Sep 2016 05:39
Is the missing consonant a liquid consonant (ie. l/r)?
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elemtilas
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by elemtilas » 12 Sep 2016 17:28
Znex wrote: Is the missing consonant a liquid consonant (ie. l/r)?
Yes, an L. I think this word is feeling much like the hound umbeset fox now!
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by Khemehekis » 27 Sep 2016 15:40
Wario Toad 32 wrote: So basically how this game works is one person will post a word in their Germanic Conlang and another person will reply to that post trying to guess what that word means. There's one of these on CWS but I decided to start one here. I'll start first.
Language: Faloch
Word: Morgonesten
IPA: /moʁgonestεn/
Breakfast, maybe? ("Esten" reminds me of the German word for "eat",
essen . Brings to mind such words as
Abendessen for dinner).
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Znex
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by Znex » 16 Oct 2016 05:27
Khemehekis wrote: Wario Toad 32 wrote: So basically how this game works is one person will post a word in their Germanic Conlang and another person will reply to that post trying to guess what that word means. There's one of these on CWS but I decided to start one here. I'll start first.
Language: Faloch
Word: Morgonesten
IPA: /moʁgonestεn/
Breakfast, maybe? ("Esten" reminds me of the German word for "eat",
essen . Brings to mind such words as
Abendessen for dinner).
Yep, that was the answer already. Now we're trying to figure out what on earth
bôôuumdomaz means/is derived from.
(We've already figured out it's from something like *bVlVmV+dōmaz; wherever the vowels go anyway)
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