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ɶʙ ɞʛ
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Romanization game #2

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Somehow, the first romanization game got deleted. Here's another one:

/m ɱ n ɳ~ŋ/
/p pɸ p̪ t ts ʈ~k ʔ/
/ɸ f s ʂ h/
/v z ʐ~ɣ/
/w r l j/
/a e i o u/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m ɱ n ɳ~ŋ/ ⟨m mf n g⟩
/p pɸ p̪ t ts ʈ~k ʔ/ ⟨p pph pf t c k q⟩
/ɸ f s ʂ h/ ⟨ph f s x h⟩
/v z ʐ~ɣ/ ⟨v z r⟩
/w r l j/ ⟨w rr l y⟩
/a e i o u/ ⟨a e i o a⟩

Next:

/m n/
/p b t d k ɡ/
/v θ ð s z h/
/t͡s d͡z/
/r j w/

/i ḭ ɯ ɯ̰ u ṵ/
/e ḛ ẽ ḛ̃ ɤ ɤ̰ ɤ̃ ɤ̰̃ o o̰ õ õ̰/
/a a̰ ã ã̰ ɑ ɑ̰ ɑ̃ ɑ̰̃/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/p b t d k ɡ/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/v θ ð s z h/ ⟨v ŧ đ s z h⟩
/t͡s d͡z/ ⟨c j⟩
/r j w/ ⟨r y w⟩

/i ḭ ɯ ɯ̰ u ṵ/ ⟨i ix û ûx u ux⟩
/e ḛ ẽ ḛ̃ ɤ ɤ̰ ɤ̃ ɤ̰̃ o o̰ õ õ̰/ ⟨e ex eŋ eŋx ô ôx ôŋ ôŋx o ox oŋ oŋx⟩
/a a̰ ã ã̰ ɑ ɑ̰ ɑ̃ ɑ̰̃/ ⟨a ax aŋ aŋx â âx âŋ ânx⟩

Next:

/m n/
/p t k/
/s x~h/
/ɹ~ɾ~r j w/
/l/

/i u/
/e~ɛ ə o~ɔ/
/æ~a/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ <m n>
/p t k/ <p t k>
/s x~h/ <s h>
/ɹ~ɾ~r j w/ <r y w>
/l/ <l>

/i u/ <i u>
/e~ɛ ə o~ɔ/ <e a o>
/æ~a/ <ä>

Next one:

/m n ŋ/
/p b t d k ɡ/
/f v s z x ɣ/
/w j l r/

/i y ɯ u/
/e ø ə ɤ o/
/æ ɒ/
/tsʲi¹⁴vʲiː⁵³ʎiks³³ iksʔiksʔiks/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k ɡ/ <p b t d k x>
/f v s z x ɣ/ <f v s z h g>
/w j l r/ <w j l r>

/i y ɯ u/ <i ui é u>
/e ø ə ɤ o/ <ei oi 0 e o>
/æ ɒ/ <a ó>

/m mʲ mˤ ɱ n̪ nˤ ɳ ȵ ŋ ɴ/
/pʰ pʜ pɕ p̪f t̪x ts tʜ ʈʂ ȶɕ kʰ qʰ/ (Finally, a reasonable way to get /ʜ/!)
/pʲ p pˤ p̪ t̪ tˤ ʈ ȶ k q/
/ɸ ɸˤ ɸʲ f s sˤ ʂ ɕ x ħ h/
/w β̞ˤ ɥ ʋ l̪ˤ l ɻ ɭ j ȴ ɰ ʕ/

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/

/i: y: ɯ: u: e: ø: ɤ: o: ɛ: ɑ: ɔ:/

/ɛi ɛɯ iɯ ɯi ie/
/œy œu yu uy yø uo ɔu ɔy/
/eɑ ɛɑ ɑi ɑɯ ɤi ɤɑ/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m mʲ mˤ ɱ n̪ nˤ ɳ ȵ ŋ ɴ/ <m mj ṃ m̃ n ṇ ň ń ñ ṉ>
/pʰ pʜ pɕ p̪f t̪x ts tʜ ʈʂ ȶɕ kʰ qʰ/ <p ҏ pć pf tx c ŧ č ć k q>
/pʲ p pˤ p̪ t̪ tˤ ʈ ȶ k q/ <bj b ḅ ḇ d ḍ ď d́ g ǥ>
/ɸ ɸˤ ɸʲ f s sˤ ʂ ɕ x ħ h/ <ph pḥ phj f s ṣ š ś x ӿ h>
/w β̞ˤ ɥ ʋ l̪ˤ l ɻ ɭ j ȴ ɰ ʕ/ <v ṿ y ü ł l r ľ j ĺ ï>

/ɪ ʊ ɛ ɔ ɑ/ <i u e o a>

/i: y: ɯ: u: e: ø: ɤ: o: ɛ: ɑ: ɔ:/ <ī ǐ ǔ ū é ě ǒ ó ē ā ō>

/ɛi ɛɯ iɯ ɯi ie/ <ei eu iu ui ie>
/œy œu yu uy yø uo ɔu ɔy/ <oi ǒu ǐu uǐ ǐe uo ou oǐ>
/eɑ ɛɑ ɑi ɑɯ ɤi ɤɑ/ <éa ea ai au ǒi oa>

Next:

/m ɱ n ɳ ɲ ŋ ɴ/
/p b t d c ɟ k ɡ ʔ/
/ɸ β f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ ʂ ʐ ɕ ʑ ʝ x ɣ χ ʁ ʕ h ɦ/
/ʋ ɹ l ɻ ɭ j ɥ ɰ w ʟ/
/r/
/i y ɪ ɨ ʉ ɨ̞ ɯ u ʊ/
/e ɛ œ ɵ ə ɜ o ʌ ɔ/
/a ɐ ɑ ɒ/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m ɱ n ɳ ɲ ŋ ɴ/ <mh n nh nj ngj ng p>
/p b t d c ɟ k ɡ ʔ/ <b t d tj dj k gg ' fh>
/ɸ β f v θ ð s z ʃ ʒ ʂ ʐ ɕ ʑ ʝ x ɣ χ ʁ ʕ h ɦ/ <vh f v ḥḥ ḥ s z sh zh sḥ zḥ sj zj ḥj x gh xh gḥ g h v wḥ>
/ʋ ɹ l ɻ ɭ j ɥ ɰ w ʟ/ <rḥ lḥ r l j jw wj w lg ʙ>
/r/ <m>
/i y ɪ ɨ ʉ ɨ̞ ɯ u ʊ/ <ii iu i iḥ uḥ ih ui uu u>
/e ɛ œ ɵ ə ɜ o ʌ ɔ/ <ee e eu uh eh eḥ oo oh o>
/a ɐ ɑ ɒ/ <aa a aḥ oḥ>

Next:

/m n ɳ ɴ/
/ɓ ɓ̪ ɗ ɗz ᶑ ʛ/
/bβ b̪ t d ts dz ʈʂ qχ/
/v s z ʂ χ ʁ h/
/ⱱ̟ ⱱ ɾ ʗ ɢ̆/
/ʙ ʙ̪ r ɽ ʀ/
/ʟ̠/

/u uʋ/
/e ə o oʋ/
/ɑ/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ɳ ɴ/ m n ń ŋ
/ɓ ɓ̪ ɗ ɗz ᶑ ʛ/ ƀ ɓ đ ƶ ɗ ǥ
/bβ b̪ t d ts dz ʈʂ qχ/ p b t d c z ć q
/v s z ʂ χ ʁ h/ v s z ś k g h
/ⱱ̟ ⱱ ɾ ʗ ɢ̆/ ʋ ⱳ r ɋ ƴ
/ʙ ʙ̪ r ɽ ʀ/ ƃ ƅ ř ŕ ĝ
/ʟ̠/ ł

/u uʋ/ u ui
/e ə o oʋ/ e w o oi
/ɑ/ a

Next
/m n/
/p b t d k/
/f v s z ɕ ʑ x ɣ h/
/ʨ ʥ/
/l j w/
/r/

/i ʉ u ʊ e ɤ o ə ɔ~ɒ a/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/p b t d k/ ⟨p b t d k⟩
/f v s z ɕ ʑ x ɣ h/ ⟨f v s z sh zh kh gh h⟩
/ʨ ʥ/ ⟨ch j⟩
/l j w/ ⟨l y w⟩
/r/ ⟨r⟩

/i ʉ u ʊ e ɤ o ə ɔ~ɒ a/ ⟨i ue u ou e oe o ea oa a⟩

Next

/m n nʰ ɲ ŋ/
/p pʰ pʼ pʷ b t̪ t̪ʰ d̪ t tʰ tʼ tʷ d ɗ̥ ɗ k kʰ kʼ kʷ ɡ* ʔ/
/tʃ tʃʰ tʃʰʷ tʃʼ tʃʷ dʒ*/
/f fʰ v* s sʰ sʷ ʃ* z* ʒ* x h/
/j ʋ~w/
/r ɹ l ɫ/

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/
/e eː* ə o oː* õ/
/ɛː ɔː/
/a aː ã ɑː ɑ̃/
/r̩ l̩/
/iə̯ ɨə̯ uə̯/
/ej əj əɨ̯ əw ow/
/aj ae̯ ao̯ aw/

*) only occurs in loanwords

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n nʰ ɲ ŋ/ <m n nh ñ ŋ>
/p pʰ pʼ pʷ b t̪ t̪ʰ d̪ t tʰ tʼ tʷ d ɗ̥ ɗ k kʰ kʼ kʷ ɡ* ʔ/ <b p p' x v dh th ð d t t' x̧ d @' @ g k k' kx ģ '>
/tʃ tʃʰ tʃʰʷ tʃʼ tʃʷ dʒ*/ <j c ç c' ǰ xh>
/f fʰ v* s sʰ sʷ ʃ* z* ʒ* x h/ <f fh qh s sh sx š z ž ch ħ>
/j ʋ~w/ <î û>
/r ɹ l ɫ/ <r ɣ l ł>

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/ <i ī y ȳ u ū>
/e eː* ə o oː* õ/ <e ē ø o ō ô>
/ɛː ɔː/ <æ å>
/a aː ã ɑː ɑ̃/ <ə ə̄ ə̂ ā â>
/r̩ l̩/ <r l>
/iə̯ ɨə̯ uə̯/ <iw yw uw>
/ej əj əɨ̯ əw ow/ <é ė ë ö ó>
/aj ae̯ ao̯ aw/ <ä á ò œ>


/m n̪ n ɲ ŋ ɴ/
/tʘ/
/cʘ c| c! cǁ/
/kʘ k| k! kǀ̠ kǂ kǁ/
/qʘ q| q! qǀ̠ qǂ qǁ qʞ/
/nʘ/
/ɲʘ ɲ| ɲ! ɲǁ/
/ŋʘ ŋ| ŋ! ŋǀ̠ ŋǂ ŋǁ/
/ɴʘ ɴ| ɴ! ɴǀ̠ ɴǂ ɴǁ ɴʞ/
/p' t̪' t' ts' c' k' q'/
/p t̪ t ts c k q/
/f s ç x~χ h/
/w l j/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n̪ n ɲ ŋ ɴ/ ⟨m nh n ñ ŋ ƞ⟩
/tʘ/ ⟨tq⟩
/cʘ c| c! cǁ/ ⟨cɋ cʇ cʗ cʖ⟩
/kʘ k| k! kǀ̠ kǂ kǁ/ ⟨kɋ kʇ kʗ kʅ kƒ kʖ⟩
/qʘ q| q! qǀ̠ qǂ qǁ qʞ/ ⟨qɋ qʇ qʗ qʅ qƒ qʖ qʞ⟩
/nʘ/ ⟨nɋ⟩
/ɲʘ ɲ| ɲ! ɲǁ/ ⟨ñɋ ñʇ ñʗ ñʖ⟩
/ŋʘ ŋ| ŋ! ŋǀ̠ ŋǂ ŋǁ/ ⟨ŋɋ ŋʇ ŋʗ ŋʅ ŋƒ ŋʖ⟩
/ɴʘ ɴ| ɴ! ɴǀ̠ ɴǂ ɴǁ ɴʞ/ ⟨ƞɋ ƞʇ ƞʗ ƞʅ ƞƒ ƞʖ ƞʞ⟩
/p' t̪' t' ts' c' k' q'/ ⟨p th t z č k q⟩
/p t̪ t ts c k q/ ⟨b dh d j c g ğ⟩
/f s ç x~χ h/ ⟨f s hs kh h⟩
/w l j/ ⟨w l y⟩
(no capitals)

Next:
/m n/
/p t ʈ c k ʔ/
/ʘ ǀ ǃ ‼ ǂ/
/ɸ θ s ʂ ç x h/
/l ɭ j w/
/ǁ/

/i ʏʷ ʊᵝ u/
/a æ̙ ɔ̘ ɒ/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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Designed to imitate Arve:

/m n/ <m n>

/p t ʈ c k ʔ/
/p t/ <p t>
/ʈ/: <tr~rt~tk~kt~tkr~pr...>(30 possible ways to spell /ʈ/)
/c/: <tj~kj~trj~tkj~ktj~kjt~...> (38 possible ways to spell /c/)
/k/: <k>
/ʔ/: <'>

/ʘ ǀ ǃ ‼ ǂ/:
/ʘ/: <pt~pk~tp~kp~...>(40 possible ways to spell /ʘ/)
/|/: <kz~zk~kjz~kzj~zkj~zjk>
/!/: <kt~tk>
/‼/: <krt~trk~kjrt~ktrj~tjrk~tkrj...>(22 possible ways to spell /‼/)
/ǂ/: <kjt~ktj~tjk~tkj>

/ɸ θ s/ <f~pf~ph th~zh s~ss~sh>
/ʂ ç x h/
/ʂ/ <rs~sr~srj~schr~srch~sch~sk~...>(16 possible ways to spell /ʂ/)
/ç/ <st~scht~skj~schj~...>(50 possible ways to spell /ç/)
/x/ <ch~rch~chr>
/h/ <h>

/l ɭ j w/ <l r~rl~lr~nr~rn~rln~nlr~rnl~lnr~lrn~nrl j w>
/ǁ/ <ktl~klt~kl~lkt~...>(20 possible ways to spell /ǁ/)

/i ʏʷ ʊᵝ u/ <i ü u û>
/a æ̙ ɔ̘ ɒ/ <a ä ô o>


/m/ [n ŋ ŋm]
/p/ [k kp]
/ɸ s h/
/l r/

/i ɪ ɯ u/
/e ʌ o/
/a/
/ai ei oi ui au eu ou/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m/ [n ŋ ŋm] m n ŋ ɱ
/p/ [k kp] p k ꝑ
/ɸ s h/ b z h
/l r/ l r

/i ɪ ɯ u/ i y w u
/e ʌ o/ e v o
/a/ a
/ai ei oi ui au eu ou/ æ ē œ ŭ ɑ û ō

Next
/m n/
/p t c k/
/b d ɟ g/
/f θ s s̻ ʃ x h/
/v ð z z̻ ʒ ɣ/
/ʦ ʧ/
/ʣ ʤ/
/l j w/
/r/

/i ɪ e ɛ a æ̱/
/u ʊ o ɔ/
/ʉ ʊ̈ ə ɜ/
One character per sound please...

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/p t c k/ ⟨p t ḱ k⟩
/b d ɟ g/ ⟨b d ǵ g⟩
/f θ s s̻ ʃ x h/ ⟨f ť s ṣ š x h⟩
/v ð z z̻ ʒ ɣ/ ⟨v ď z ẓ ž ǧ⟩
/ʦ ʧ/ ⟨c č⟩
/ʣ ʤ/ ⟨ʒ ǯ⟩
/l j w/ ⟨l j w⟩
/r/ ⟨r⟩

/i ɪ e ɛ a æ̱/ ⟨í i é e á ä⟩
/u ʊ o ɔ/ ⟨ú u ó o⟩
/ʉ ʊ̈ ə ɜ/ ⟨ý y a ë⟩

Next:

/m n ŋ/
/p b t d k ɡ ʔ/
/ts dz/
/θ ð s z h/
/r j w/
/l/

/i ɨ ɯ u/
/e ə o/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a ä ɑ/

Allophone of consonants
/n t~ts~k d~dz~ɡ θ~s ð~z h l/ before /i/, /e/ or if palatized:
[ɲ tɕ dʑ ɕ ʑ ç ʎ]
/h l/ before /ɯ/ or /ɑ/:
[x ɫ]
/t d h/ before /u/, /o/ or if labialized:
[ts dz ɸ]
Last edited by Ryan Aditya on 23 Aug 2019 15:20, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/p b t d k ɡ ʔ/ <p b t d k g q>
/ts dz/ <c j>
/θ ð s z h/ <ṭ ḍ s z h>
/r j w/ <r y w>
/l/ <l>

/i ɨ ɯ u/ <i ú u ù>
/e ə o/ <é è ò>
/ɛ ɔ/ <e o>
/a ä ɑ/ <á a à>

Next:

/m n ɲ ŋ/
/m̥ʰː n̥ʰː ɲ̊ʰː ŋ̊ʰː/
/p t c k/
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ/
/pː tː cː kː/
/s/
/sʰː/
/j w h/
/ɺ/
/rː lː/

/á í ú/
/à ì ù/

/àm̥ʰːájì ɺì kʰùrːúkúcː ŋáàsʰː/
[ʔə̥̃̀ːm̥̌ʰːp̚ʔʰǽĵːì ɺ̠ʲì k͡xʰʊ̀řːʊ́gʉ́c̚c͡çə́ ŋɑ̂ːs̪ʰːə̥̀ʔ̚]
ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote:
10 Aug 2019 22:30
Somehow, the first romanization game got deleted.
Looks like all the orthographisation game threads were deleted! [:O]

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ɲ ŋ/ m n x q
/m̥ʰː n̥ʰː ɲ̊ʰː ŋ̊ʰː/ mh nh xh qh
/p t c k/ b d j g
/pʰ tʰ cʰ kʰ/ p t c k
/pː tː cː kː/ bh dh jh gh
/s/ sz
/sʰː/ s
/j w h/ y v h
/ɺ/ l
/rː lː/ r ll

/á í ú/ a i u
/à ì ù/ ä ï ü

/àm̥ʰːájì ɺì kʰùrːúkúcː ŋáàsʰː/
[ʔə̥̃̀ːm̥̌ʰːp̚ʔʰǽĵːì ɺ̠ʲì k͡xʰʊ̀řːʊ́gʉ́c̚c͡çə́ ŋɑ̂ːs̪ʰːə̥̀ʔ̚]
Ämhayï lï kürukujh ngaäs.

Next
/p b t d k g/
/f v s z ʒ ɕ͝ç ɣ h/
/ʧ/
/m n ɳʲ ŋ/
/l j w/
/r/
/ɬ/
Consonants can be geminated. /ʒ/ becomes /ʤ/ when geminated.

/i ɨ u e ɤ o ɜ a/
/iː yː uː eː øː oː əː ɑː/

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d k g/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/f v s z ʒ ɕ͝ç ɣ h/ ⟨f v s z zj c hj gh h⟩
/ʧ/ ⟨cj⟩
/m n ɳʲ ŋ/ ⟨m n nj ng⟩
/l j w/ ⟨l j w⟩
/r/ ⟨r⟩
/ɬ/ ⟨ls⟩

/i ɨ u e ɤ o ɜ a/ ⟨i y u e ö o ä a⟩
/iː yː uː eː øː oː əː ɑː/ ⟨ī ȳ ū ē ȫ ō ǟ a⟩

Next

Consonants
/m n̪ ɲ ŋ/
/p t̪ tʃ k/
/f s̪ ʃ h/
/ʋ l̪ j w/

Vowels
/i ÿ u/
/e̞ ø̽ o̞/
/a ä̹ ɒ/
/ĩ yː ũ/
/eː oː/
/ã aː ɒ̃/

Tones
/◌˧ ◌˦ ◌˨ ◌˥˧ ◌˧˥ ◌˥ ◌˩/

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Re: Romanization game #2

Post by Birdlang »

/m n̪ ɲ ŋ/ m n ñ g
/p t̪ tʃ k/ p t č k
/f s̪ ʃ h/ f s š h
/ʋ l̪ j w/ v l j w

Vowels
/i ÿ u/ i ü u
/e̞ ø̽ o̞/ e ö o
/a ä̹ ɒ/ a ä ɒ
/ĩ yː ũ/ í û ú
/eː oː/ é ó
/ã aː ɒ̃/ á â ą

Tones
/◌˧ ◌˦ ◌˨ ◌˥˧ ◌˧˥ ◌˥ ◌˩/ a ā ã ǎ ạ ă ȃ
Next
/m n/
/p b t d c ɟ k g/
/ɸ v ð s ʃ ʝ x ʁ ʕ h/
/ʋ l j ɰ~ɣ/
/r/

/i u ɛ ɔ a/

ɶʙ ɞʛ
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sinic
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Re: Romanization game #2

Post by ɶʙ ɞʛ »

/m n/ <m n~mj>
/p b t d c ɟ k g/ <p b t~pj d~bj tj~kj dj~gj k g>
/ɸ v ð s ʃ ʝ x ʁ ʕ h/ <f v z~vj s~fj sj jj~zj x gh q h>
/ʋ l j ɰ~ɣ/ <w l j~lj~rj qj>
/r/ <r>



/i u ɛ ɔ a/ <i u e o a>
/mʲ mˠ mˤ n̪ˠ nˤ ȵ ŋ/
/pʲ pˠ pˤ t̪ˠ tˤ ʈ ȶ k q/
/f s sˤ ʂ ɕ sʷ* ʂʷ* ɕʷ* x ħ h/
/ɥ w wˤ l̪ˤ ȴ ʟ ʕ/
/ⱱ ɾ r r̥ ʜ/ - Is an /ħ/ vs /ʜ/ distinction even attested?

/i e a o u ɵ ɤ/

/i: e: a: o: u: y: ɨ:/

/ei eu iu ui ie/
/ɵy ou yɵ uɤ au/
/ea ai ɤi ɤa/

*whistled

Nortaneous
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Re: Romanization game #2

Post by Nortaneous »

ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote:
24 Aug 2019 01:24
Is an /ħ/ vs /ʜ/ distinction even attested?
yes, in Aghul and (according to PHOIBLE) Bats

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