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Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 13 Nov 2020 22:24
by shimobaatar
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n nj g>
/p pʼ t tʼ c cʼ k kʼ q qʼ/ <p ṗ t ṭ c ċ k ḳ q q̇>
/ts tsʼ cç cçʼ/ <ts ṭs cç ċç>
/f s ç x h/ <f s ç x h>
/w l r ɻ ʎ j/ <w l r z lj j>

/i y ɨ u/ <i ü y u>
/e ø ɤ o/ <e ö õ o>
/a/ <a>

Aa Cc Ċċ Çç Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ḳḳ Ll Mm Nn Oo Öö Õõ Pp Ṗṗ Qq Q̇q̇ Rr Ss Tt Ṭṭ Uu Üü Ww Xx Yy Zz

Next:

/p t k kʷ/
/s h/
/t͡s/
/m n ŋ ŋʷ/
/j w/
/l/

/i iː u uː/
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/
/ɑ ɑː/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 16 Nov 2020 09:11
by jimydog000
/p t k kʷ/<p t k q>
/s h/<s h>
/t͡s/<ts>
/m n ŋ ŋʷ/<m n ŋ ŋ́>
/j w/<y w>
/l/<l>

/i iː u uː/<i ī u ū>
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/<e ē o ō>
/ɑ ɑː/<a ā>

Next:

/m n/
/p t k ʔ/
/b d g/
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/
/kʼ/
/tʃ tɬ/
/dʒ dʎ̝/
/tʃʼ tɬʼ/
/f s ɬ x/
/ɾ l j w/

/ŋǀ ŋǁ ŋǃ/
/ɡǀ ɡǁ ɡǃ/
/kǀ kǁ kǃ/
/kǀʰ kǁʰ kǃʰ/
/ᵑǀˀ ᵑǁˀ ᵑǃˀ/

/i u/
/e o/
/a/

V˥ V˧ V˩ V˩˥ V˥˩

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 16 Nov 2020 13:31
by shimobaatar
/m n/ <m n>
/p t k ʔ/ <p t k ˀ>
/b d g/ <b d g>
/pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ/ <ph th tjh kh>
/kʼ/ <kˀ>
/tʃ tɬ/ <tj tl>
/dʒ dʎ̝/ <dj dl>
/tʃʼ tɬʼ/ <tjˀ tlˀ>
/f s ɬ x/ <f s ł h>
/ɾ l j w/ <r l j w>

/ŋǀ ŋǁ ŋǃ/ <nc nx nq>
/ɡǀ ɡǁ ɡǃ/ <gc gx gq>
/kǀ kǁ kǃ/ <kc kx kq>
/kǀʰ kǁʰ kǃʰ/ <kch kxh kqh>
/ᵑǀˀ ᵑǁˀ ᵑǃˀ/ <ncˀ nxˀ nqˀ>

/i u/ <i u>
/e o/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

/V˥ V˧ V˩ V˩˥ V˥˩/ <V́ V V̀ V̌ V̂>

Aa Áá Àà Ââ Ǎǎ Bb Cc Dd Ee Éé Èè Êê Ěě Ff Gg Hh Ii Íí Ìì Îî Ǐǐ Jj Kk Ll Łł Mm Nn Oo Óó Òò Ôô Ǒǒ Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Úú Ùù Ûû Ǔǔ Ww Xx ʔˀ

Next:

/b t d k q ʔ/
/f θ s ɕ x ħ h/
/t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/
/m n/
/l j w/
/r/

/i iː y yː u uː/
/e eː ø øː o oː/
/a aː/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 16 Nov 2020 18:31
by Creyeditor
/b t d k q ʔ/<p t d k g q>
/f θ s ɕ x ħ h/<v f s š ķ ģ h>
/t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/<č z>
/m n/<m n>
/l j w/<l j w>
/r/<r>

/i iː y yː u uː/<i í ù û u ú>
/e eː ø øː o oː/<e é ò ô o ó>
/a aː/<a á>

Next:

Consonants
/m n ɲ ŋ/
/mb nd nd͡ʒ /
/pʰ p b tʰ t d t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ kʰ k/
/s ʃ x/
/ɾ l̥ l w̥/

/i u/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 17 Nov 2020 19:38
by shimobaatar
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ñ g>
/mb nd nd͡ʒ/ <mb nd nj>
/pʰ p b tʰ t d t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ kʰ k/ <ph p b th t d ch c j kh k>
/s ʃ x/ <s x h>
/ɾ l̥ l w̥/ <r ł l f>

/i u/ <i u>
/ɛ ɔ/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

Aa Bb Cc Dd Ee Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Łł Mm Nn Ññ Oo Pp Rr Ss Tt Uu Xx

Next:

/p t ʈ c k kʷ q ʔ/
/s ħ h/
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/
/l j ʎ w/
/ɾ ɽ/

/i u/
/e o/
/æ ɑ/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 20 Nov 2020 19:17
by jimydog000
/p t ʈ c k kʷ q ʔ/<p t rt ť k kw q ʔ>
/s ħ h/<s j h>
/m n ɳ ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/<m n rn ň ŋ ŋw nn>
/l j ʎ w/<l y ľ w>
/ɾ ɽ/<r rr>

/i u/<i u>
/e o/<e o>
/æ ɑ/<ä a>

Net:x

/m n ɲ/
/p pʼ t tʼ k kʼ ʔ/
/t͡s t͡sʼ/
/ɸ s ʃ h/
/β̞ r j w/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː ø øː ə o oː/
/a aː/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 20 Nov 2020 22:44
by shimobaatar
/m n ɲ/ <m n ñ>
/p pʼ t tʼ k kʼ ʔ/ <p ṗ t ṭ k ḳ q>
/t͡s t͡sʼ/ <c ċ>
/ɸ s ʃ h/ <f s x h>
/β̞ r j w/ <b r j w>

/i iː u uː/ <i ī u ū>
/e eː ø øː ə o oː/ <e ē y ȳ ë o ō>
/a aː/ <a ā>

Aa Āā Bb Cc Ċċ Ee Ēē Ëë Ff Hh Ii Īī Jj Kk Ḳḳ Mm Nn Ññ Oo Ōō Pp Ṗṗ Qq Rr Ss Tt Ṭṭ Uu Ūū Ww Xx Yy Ȳȳ

Next:

/p pʰ b t tʰ d k kʰ g ʔ/
/ɸ θ s x h/
/t͡s t͡sʰ d͡z/
/m mˀ n nˀ/
/j w/
/r/
/l/

/i ɨ u/
/e o/
/ɛ/
/a/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 22 Nov 2020 00:07
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
/p pʰ b t tʰ d k kʰ g ʔ/ <p P b t T d k K g '>
/ɸ θ s x h/ <f D s H h>
/t͡s t͡sʰ d͡z/ <c C z>
/m mˀ n nˀ/ <m M n N>
/j w/ <y w>
/r/ <r>
/l/ <l>

/i ɨ u/ <i U u>
/e o/ <E o>
/ɛ/ <e>
/a/ <a>


/n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/
/t t͡s c k kʷ q q͡χ ʔ/
/s χ ʁ̝~ʀ h/
/l j ɰ w ʁ̞/
/ʔt ʔt͡s ʔc ʔk ʔkʷ ʔq ʔq͡χ/ are realized as /t' t͡s' c' k' kʷ' q' q͡χ'/
/ʔl ʔj ʔɰ ʔw ʔʁ̞/ are realized as /ɗˡ ʄ ɠ ɠʷ ʛ/
/ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ ʔŋʷ ʔɴ/ are realized as /nɗ ɲʄ ŋɠ ŋɠʷ ɴʛ/

/i æ ɑ ɒ ø/

All consonants and vowels can be optionally coarticulated with /ʙ/.

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 22 Nov 2020 00:30
by Creyeditor
/n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ ɴ/<n ny ng m nq>
/t t͡s c k kʷ q q͡χ ʔ/<t z c k p q qh '>
/s χ ʁ̝~ʀ h/<s kh gh h>
/l j ɰ w ʁ̞/<l y g b r>

/ʔt ʔt͡s ʔc ʔk ʔkʷ ʔq ʔq͡χ/ are realized as /t' t͡s' c' k' kʷ' q' q͡χ'/
/ʔl ʔj ʔɰ ʔw ʔʁ̞/ are realized as /ɗˡ ʄ ɠ ɠʷ ʛ/
/ʔn ʔɲ ʔŋ ʔŋʷ ʔɴ/ are realized as /nɗ ɲʄ ŋɠ ŋɠʷ ɴʛ/

/i æ ɑ ɒ ø/<I e a u o>

Assamese at some point had their lax rounded high vowel written/analyzed as <ɒ> by some linguists. Almost ANADEW.

Next:
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/
/mp nt ɲc ŋk ɴq/
/mpf nts ɲcç ŋkx ɴqχ/
/p b t d c k q ʔ/
/pf bv ts dz cç kx qχ/
/f v s z ç x χ h/
/ʙ r ʀ/
/w l j/

/I u/
/e ə o/
/æ ɒ/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 22 Nov 2020 03:04
by shimobaatar
/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/ <m n ñ g ŋ>
/mp nt ɲc ŋk ɴq/ <mp nt ñc gk ŋq>
/mpf nts ɲcç ŋkx ɴqχ/ <mpf nts ñcj gkx ŋqḫ>
/p b t d c k q ʔ/ <p b t d c k q ˀ>
/pf bv ts dz cç kx qχ/ <pf bv ts dz cj kx qḫ>
/f v s z ç x χ h/ <f v s z j x ḫ h>
/ʙ r ʀ/ <ḇ r ř>
/w l j/ <w l y>

/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e ë o>
/æ ɒ/ <a å>

Aa Åå Bb Ḇḇ Cc Dd Ee Ëë Ff Gg Hh Ḫḫ Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Ññ Ŋŋ Oo Pp Qq Rr Řř Ss Tt Uu Vv Ww Xx Yy Zz ʔˀ

Next:

/p b t d k g ʔ/
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/
/m n ɲ/
/l j ʎ w ʕ/
/r/

/i u/
/e ə o/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 23 Nov 2020 11:47
by Vlürch
/p b t d k g ʔ/ <p b t d k g q>
/f v s z ʃ ʒ x ɣ h/ <f v s z sŷ zŷ kŵ gŵ h>
/t͡s d͡z t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ <c j cŷ jŷ>
/m n ɲ/ <m n nŷ>
/l j ʎ w ʕ/ <l y lŷ w qŵ>
/r/ <r>

/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <eŷ eŵ oŵ>
/ɛ ɔ/ <e o>
/a/ <a>

Next:

/m n ŋ/
/b t d k q ʔ/
/s ʃ/
/j w x χ h/
/r l/

/ɑ æ e ə i ɯ o ʌ u/

I'll always cringe a little when I see that in IPA the voiceless velar and uvular fricatives look identical on this forum.

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 23 Nov 2020 20:39
by shimobaatar
Vlürch wrote: 23 Nov 2020 11:47 I'll always cringe a little when I see that in IPA the voiceless velar and uvular fricatives look identical on this forum.
For me, at least, the symbols don't look the same in actual posts, but they're identical in drafts.

/m n ŋ/ <m n g>
/b t d k q ʔ/ <b t d k ḳ q>
/s ʃ/ <z s>
/j w x χ h/ <j w x ẋ h>
/r l/ <r l>

/ɑ æ e ə i ɯ o ʌ u/ <a æ e y i ư o ơ u>

Aa Ææ Bb Dd Ee Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ḳḳ Ll Mm Nn Oo Ơơ Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Ưư Ww Xx Ẋẋ Yy Zz

Next:

/p b t d k g q/
/f v ð s z ɕ ħ/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/
/m n ŋ/
/l j w/
/ɽ/
/r/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː ə o oː/
/a aː/

/eʊ̯ oɪ̯/
/aʊ̯ aɪ̯/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 26 Nov 2020 08:17
by Creyeditor
/p b t d k g q/<p b t d k g ķ>
/f v ð s z ɕ ħ/<f v đ s z ś h>
/t͡s d͡z t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/<c ż ć ź/
/m n ŋ/<m n ņ>
/l j w/<l j w>
/ɽ/<ř>
/r/<r>

/i iː u uː/<i ï u ü>
/e eː ə o oː/<e ë ' o ö>
/a aː/<a ä>

/eʊ̯ oɪ̯/<î û>
/aʊ̯ aɪ̯/<ô ê>


Next:
/m n/
/b t d c k/
/dð ts dz/
/f ð s ɕ ʑ x ħ h/
/l r j/

/i u/
/ɪ ʊ/
/e ə o/
/æ a/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 26 Nov 2020 09:22
by jimydog000
/m n/<m n>
/b t d c k/<b t d č c>
/dð ts dz/<dð ts dz>
/f ð s ɕ ʑ x ħ h/<f ð s š ž kh jh h>
/l r j/<l r y>

/i u/<î û>
/ɪ ʊ/<i u>
/e ə o/<e y o>
/æ a/<ä a>

Next:

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/
/p t k k͡p ʔ/
/tʼ kʼ/
/ɓ ɗ/
/s/
/l̥ l w̥ w/

/i iː u uː/
/ɛ ɛː ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː ɔ ɔː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː/
/a aː ã ãː/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 27 Nov 2020 18:22
by shimobaatar
/m n/ <m n>
/b t d c k/ <b t d c k>
/dð ts dz/ <dd tz z>
/f ð s ɕ ʑ x ħ h/ <f ð s x j g ħ h>
/l r j/ <l r y>

/i u/ <î û>
/ɪ ʊ/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <ê e ô>
/æ a/ <a o>

Aa Bb Cc Dd Ðð Ee Êê Ff Gg Hh Ħħ Ii Îî Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Oo Ôô Rr Ss Tt Uu Ûû Xx Yy Zz

/m n ŋ ŋʷ/ <m n g gw>
/p t k k͡p ʔ/ <p t k kp q>
/tʼ kʼ/ <ṭ ḳ>
/ɓ ɗ/ <b d>
/s/ <s>
/l̥ l w̥ w/ <lh l wh w>

/i iː u uː/ <i ī u ū>
/ɛ ɛː ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː ɔ ɔː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː/ <e ē ę ę̄ o ō ǫ ǭ>
/a aː ã ãː/ <a ā ą ą̄>

Aa Āā Ąą Ą̄ą̄ Bb Dd Ee Ēē Ęę Ę̄ę̄ Gg Hh Ii Īī Kk Ḳḳ Ll Mm Nn Oo Ōō Ǫǫ Ǭǭ Pp Qq Ss Tt Ṭṭ Uu Ūū Ww

Next:

/p t c k ʔ/
/s ʃ h/
/m n/
/j ɰ w ʕ/
/ɺ/

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/
/a aː/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 27 Nov 2020 18:53
by Creyeditor
/p t c k ʔ/<b d t g k>
/s ʃ h/<z s h>
/m n/<m n>
/j ɰ w ʕ/<y w v r>
/ɺ/<l>

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː/<i î e ê u û>
/a aː/<a â>

Next:
/mw mj nw nj/
/pw pj tw tj kw kj/
/fw fj sw sj xw xj~ç hw~w̥ hj/
/w~u j~i l r/

/e e: o o:/
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/
/a~ə a:/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 27 Nov 2020 19:58
by ɶʙ ɞʛ
/mw mj nw nj/ <m m n n>
/pw pj tw tj kw kj/ <p p t t~c k k>
/fw fj sw sj xw xj~ç hw~w̥ hj/ <f f s s x x h h>
/w~u j~i l r/ <u i l r>

/e e: o o:/
CʲVCʲ: ee ée eœ eœ́
CʲVCʷ: eu éu io ió
CʷVCʲ: ue ué oœ oœ́
CʷVCʷ: ueu uéu oo oó
/ɛ ɛː ɔ ɔː/
CʲVCʲ: e é æœ æœ́
CʲVCʷ: eo éo æo æó
CʷVCʲ: oæ oǽ aœ aœ́
CʷVCʷ: œo œ́o o ó
/a~ə a:/
CʲVCʲ: eæ eǽ
CʲVCʷ: ea eá
CʷVCʲ: æ ǽ
CʷVCʷ: a á


/ǀ/ (click)
/ɸ f θ s sʷ ʃ ʃʷ ɬ ç x ħ h/
/ʰ/
/˩ ˧ ˥ ˦˥ ˩˧ ˦˩˨ ˥˧/ (notated as ∅ ̄ ̂ ́ ̋ ̌ ̀ in the sample; /sʷ ʃʷ/ cannot carry tone)

/ɸ̌f́ʃx̂ʰ|ɸ hʃʷ|ɸ̌ ħ́x́ɸʰɬ̂ hf̄ɸ̌ȟʃʰ x́ɸ̋ɬf̀ʰ|sʷɸ́. ŝʃ̄h ɸ̄ɬ̂f́ʰʃɬ̋xθ̀ ɬ̄ǀx̂f̋ɬ̀ħ hħ́fɸ̋ʰh̀ʃʷɬ̌ʃx̌ɸ̄./

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 15:14
by Creyeditor
/ǀ/ <ii>
/ɸ f θ s sʷ ʃ ʃʷ ɬ ç x ħ h/<uu uo ui ie s ei x ai ia ao oa au aa>
/ʰ/<h>
/˩ ˧ ˥ ˦˥ ˩˧ ˦˩˨ ˥˧/~/∅ ̄ ̂ ́ ̋ ̌/(sic!) e.g.<àà aa áá aá àa áà áa>


/ɸ̌f́ʃx̂ʰ|ɸ hʃʷ|ɸ̌ ħ́x́ɸʰɬ̂ hf̄ɸ̌ȟʃʰ x́ɸ̋ɬf̀ʰ|sʷɸ́. ŝʃ̄h ɸ̄ɬ̂f́ʰʃɬ̋xθ̀ ɬ̄ǀx̂f̋ɬ̀ħ hħ́fɸ̋ʰh̀ʃʷɬ̌ʃx̌ɸ̄./
<úuuóèìóáhììùù ààxììúu aúoáùùháí ààuoúùáàèìh ...>

Next:
/m n/
/p t c k q/
/f θ s ʃ x h/
/ɬ/
/w l r j/

/i u/
/e ə o/
/a/

Syllable structure is CV(C). Voiceless obstruents become voiced between voiced sounds. Coda nasals are deleted and nasalize the preceding vowel. Consonants are palatalized before front vowels and labialized before rounded vowels.

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 17:24
by shimobaatar
/m n/ <m n>
/p t c k q/ <p t c k q>
/f θ s ʃ x h/ <f z s x g h>
/ɬ/ <ł>
/w l r j/ <w l r j>

/i u/ <i u>
/e ə o/ <e ë o>
/a/ <a>

Aa Cc Ee Ëë Ff Gg Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Łł Mm Nn Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Tt Uu Ww Xx Zz

Next:

/b t k/
/ɸ~θ s h/
/m n/
/j w/
/ɽ/

/i u/
/a/

Re: Romanization game #2

Posted: 30 Nov 2020 19:00
by Creyeditor
/b t k/<b t c>
/ɸ~θ s h/<ø s h>
/m n/<m n>
/j w/<y v>
/ɽ/<l>

/i u/<e o>
/a/<a>

Next, an inventory with a 1:1:1 ratio:
/m~b n~d/
/t~s k~h/
/j/

/i e a o u/

/˩ ˧ ˦ ˥ ˧˩/