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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 21 Oct 2020 13:28
by Creyeditor
Is the last word a compoun noun?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 21 Oct 2020 16:52
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 21 Oct 2020 13:28 Is the last word a compoun noun?
[tick]

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 21 Oct 2020 18:07
by Creyeditor
So, is the whole phrase of the following strucuture?
verb-GERUND of noun-noun-PL

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 22 Oct 2020 06:36
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 21 Oct 2020 18:07 So, is the whole phrase of the following strucuture?
verb-GERUND of noun-noun-PL
[tick] That looks accurate to me.

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 22 Oct 2020 09:44
by Creyeditor
shimobaatar wrote: 20 Oct 2020 03:53 Language: "Thedish"
Word: teketting ef welledges
IPA: [təˈkʰɛtɨ̃ŋ əv ˈwɛɫˌʔɛd͡ʒəs]
Did the verb root start with *t in Proto-Germanic?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 22 Oct 2020 13:23
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 22 Oct 2020 09:44 Did the verb root start with *t in Proto-Germanic?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 22 Oct 2020 15:50
by Creyeditor
Did the second noun root start with a vowel in PG?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 22 Oct 2020 16:10
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 22 Oct 2020 15:50 Did the second noun root start with a vowel in PG?
[tick] The second element of the compound, just to be clear.

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 23 Oct 2020 21:33
by Creyeditor
Did the verb root start with *þ in PG?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 23 Oct 2020 23:19
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 23 Oct 2020 21:33 Did the verb root start with *þ in PG?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 24 Oct 2020 11:29
by Creyeditor
Did it start with *k?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 24 Oct 2020 16:20
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 24 Oct 2020 11:29 Did it start with *k?
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Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 24 Oct 2020 16:47
by Creyeditor
Is the *te- part a prefix?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 24 Oct 2020 23:22
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 24 Oct 2020 16:47 Is the *te- part a prefix?
[tick] te- in the modern language is a prefix, as was its Proto-Germanic ancestor.

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 25 Oct 2020 07:35
by Creyeditor
Was it a prefix relating to motion or location in PG?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 25 Oct 2020 14:12
by zyma
Creyeditor wrote: 25 Oct 2020 07:35 Was it a prefix relating to motion or location in PG?
Not primarily, I'd say.

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 02 Nov 2020 02:28
by zyma
I've tried to summarize everything that's been established so far below. Please let me know if I should give some kind of hint.

"Word": teketting ef welledges
IPA: [təˈkʰɛtɨ̃ŋ əv ˈwɛɫˌʔɛd͡ʒəs]
  • A noun phrase.
  • The "Xing of Y-Zs", roughly, where X is a verb and Y and Z are nouns.
teketting
  • The first syllable is not descended from Proto-Germanic *ta.
  • The suffix -ing is used to form gerunds/verbal nouns.
  • The root of the verb is -ket(t)-, and its ancestor in Proto-Germanic began with *k.
  • te- is a prefix. The primary reconstructed meaning of the Proto-Germanic prefix from which it is descended has more to do with a state of being than motion or location.
ef
  • Corresponds to "of" in English.
welledges
  • A compound of two nouns, well and edges.
  • The suffix -(e)s indicates plurality.
  • The Proto-Germanic ancestor of edges began with a vowel.

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 02 Nov 2020 04:34
by qwed117
does *te come from *tuz-?

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 02 Nov 2020 04:59
by zyma
qwed117 wrote: 02 Nov 2020 04:34 does *te come from *tuz-?
[cross] No, but you're very much on the right track!

Re: Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs 2

Posted: 02 Nov 2020 05:02
by qwed117
shimobaatar wrote: 02 Nov 2020 04:59
qwed117 wrote: 02 Nov 2020 04:34 does *te come from *tuz-?
[cross] No, but you're very much on the right track!
*twiz-?