Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
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Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
Because I think I actually have a neat idea about it.
Phonological history
Start with the following phonology.
/n/
/p b t d k g q ʔ/
/s/
/w l ɹ j/
/u ʊ o ɔ a ɛ e ɪ i/
(With the exception of alveolar consonants, no consonants immediately adjacent in a root can be at the same place of articulation. e.g., *√ppb is not allowed, but *√ptb is. The exceptions to this rule are rare biconsonantal roots which usually take some sort of third consonant as a "modifier".)
Next, put the vowels through something like the 7-to-5 vowel merger that happened in some Bantu dialects.
C > C[+ lenited] / _V[+ tense] (i.e., any of /u o e i/)
The patterns work like so:
n ~ ɹ
p b ~ f v
t d ~ ts dz (<c j>)
k g ~ x ɣ (<ḵ ḡ>)
q ~ χ (<ḥ>)
ʔ ~ h
s ~ h
The rest of the consonants are analogically fortited before non-tense vowels (i.e., /ʊ ɔ a ɛ ɪ/):
w ~ kʷ
l ~ ɬ (<ł>)
ɹ ~ s
j ~ ts (<c>)
Then the lax vowels merge with their tense counterparts (*a is unaffected), phonemicizing the lenitions.
Next, in a VCVCV sequence where all vowels are the same, the middle one is dropped:
*isɪʔiq "I eat" > isihiq > ishiq
Next, in a VhV sequence where both vowels are the same, the sequence becomes a long vowel:
*dusuk "he will be found" > juhuk > ju:k
Then, the fricatives /f v/ > /h w/:
*qabek "three" > qavek > qawek
Then, /b/ > /m/:
*√tqb > *tʊqʊb "he is caught up in it" > tuqum
Some verb root things for the protolanguage
*√sʔq "eat"
*√qlt "write"
*√dsk "find"
*√ʔpr "know"
*√brg "hair"
*√lsr "tie up"
*√tqb "sweep up, catch something up in"
Biconsonantal roots:
*√nk+k > naḵek "one"
*√tr+k > tarek "two"
*√qb+k > qawek "three"
*√ln+k > lanek "four"
*√dr+k > darek "five"
*√sp+k > safek > sahek "six"
*√tk – white (> taḵek "white in color")
*√sr – red (> sarek "red in color")
*√nn – yellow (> narek "yellow in color", nareg "intense yellow in color")
*√lr – black/blue/green (> łarek "black/blue/green in color")
Biconsonantal modifiers:
-k – stative
-n – cause to be in a state, causative (tirin "split in half")
-l – partitive (corol "distribute by twos, count by twos")
-q – to do X away from
-r – to do X towards
-g – to do X again (also used as an intensive with colors)
-s – to undo X (also used to say that a color is not very intense)
Patterns
The proto-patterns are given below. The verb *√dsk "find" will serve as an example.
CaCC – active imperative (> dask)
CuCC – passive imperative (> jusk)
CoCC – active purposive imperative (> josk)
CɔCC – passive purposive imperative (> dosk)
CiCCi – past active (> jisḵi)
CɪCiC – present active (> dihik > di:k)
CiCiC – future active (> jihik > ji:k)
CuCCu – past passive (> jusḵu)
CʊCuC – present passive (> dusku)
CuCuC – future passive (> juhuk > ju:k)
CoCCo – past active purposive (to go to do X) (> josḵo)
CoCɪCi – present active purposive (> josiḵi)
CoCiCi – future active purposive (> johiḵi)
CɔCCɔ – past passive purposive (to go to have X done to oneself) (> dosko)
CɔCɪCi – present passive purposive (> dosiḵi)
CɔCiCi – future passive purposive (> dohiḵi)
Geminating the first consonant in a root leads to an intensive, more or less. Geminating the second consonant leads to a reflexive, more or less. In cases where the first consonant is geminated but is word-initial, the vowel *a- is added; in cases where a geminated consonant is in contact with another consonant, an *a is inserted to break up the cluster.
*addask "leave no stone unturned"
*dassak "find oneself"
Further derivations
*qaCCaC – elative (also used to form ordinal numbers—*qadra > qadsa "fourth")
*ɹaCoCC – abstract/conceptual nominalizer
*CaCoC – resultative (*√ʔpr "know" > *ʔapor > ʔafor "experience, insight, wisdom, advice")
*CaCCɛ – malady (*√brg "hair" > *bargɛ > marge "baldness, mange")
*CaCeC – rare participializer usually used with numbers or colors
Adpositions
You may have noticed that nominals generally have *a as the first vowel. Certain adpositional relations are indicated by changing the first vowel of a nominal, whether a nominalized root or a pattern. I don't really have examples for this yet. I'm also considering not doing this because it seems too artificial, but I wanted to get y'all's opinions about it.
*u – instrumental
*ʊ – inside, in
*o – dative
*ɛ – concerning, about
*e – from
Phonological history
Start with the following phonology.
/n/
/p b t d k g q ʔ/
/s/
/w l ɹ j/
/u ʊ o ɔ a ɛ e ɪ i/
(With the exception of alveolar consonants, no consonants immediately adjacent in a root can be at the same place of articulation. e.g., *√ppb is not allowed, but *√ptb is. The exceptions to this rule are rare biconsonantal roots which usually take some sort of third consonant as a "modifier".)
Next, put the vowels through something like the 7-to-5 vowel merger that happened in some Bantu dialects.
C > C[+ lenited] / _V[+ tense] (i.e., any of /u o e i/)
The patterns work like so:
n ~ ɹ
p b ~ f v
t d ~ ts dz (<c j>)
k g ~ x ɣ (<ḵ ḡ>)
q ~ χ (<ḥ>)
ʔ ~ h
s ~ h
The rest of the consonants are analogically fortited before non-tense vowels (i.e., /ʊ ɔ a ɛ ɪ/):
w ~ kʷ
l ~ ɬ (<ł>)
ɹ ~ s
j ~ ts (<c>)
Then the lax vowels merge with their tense counterparts (*a is unaffected), phonemicizing the lenitions.
Next, in a VCVCV sequence where all vowels are the same, the middle one is dropped:
*isɪʔiq "I eat" > isihiq > ishiq
Next, in a VhV sequence where both vowels are the same, the sequence becomes a long vowel:
*dusuk "he will be found" > juhuk > ju:k
Then, the fricatives /f v/ > /h w/:
*qabek "three" > qavek > qawek
Then, /b/ > /m/:
*√tqb > *tʊqʊb "he is caught up in it" > tuqum
Some verb root things for the protolanguage
*√sʔq "eat"
*√qlt "write"
*√dsk "find"
*√ʔpr "know"
*√brg "hair"
*√lsr "tie up"
*√tqb "sweep up, catch something up in"
Biconsonantal roots:
*√nk+k > naḵek "one"
*√tr+k > tarek "two"
*√qb+k > qawek "three"
*√ln+k > lanek "four"
*√dr+k > darek "five"
*√sp+k > safek > sahek "six"
*√tk – white (> taḵek "white in color")
*√sr – red (> sarek "red in color")
*√nn – yellow (> narek "yellow in color", nareg "intense yellow in color")
*√lr – black/blue/green (> łarek "black/blue/green in color")
Biconsonantal modifiers:
-k – stative
-n – cause to be in a state, causative (tirin "split in half")
-l – partitive (corol "distribute by twos, count by twos")
-q – to do X away from
-r – to do X towards
-g – to do X again (also used as an intensive with colors)
-s – to undo X (also used to say that a color is not very intense)
Patterns
The proto-patterns are given below. The verb *√dsk "find" will serve as an example.
CaCC – active imperative (> dask)
CuCC – passive imperative (> jusk)
CoCC – active purposive imperative (> josk)
CɔCC – passive purposive imperative (> dosk)
CiCCi – past active (> jisḵi)
CɪCiC – present active (> dihik > di:k)
CiCiC – future active (> jihik > ji:k)
CuCCu – past passive (> jusḵu)
CʊCuC – present passive (> dusku)
CuCuC – future passive (> juhuk > ju:k)
CoCCo – past active purposive (to go to do X) (> josḵo)
CoCɪCi – present active purposive (> josiḵi)
CoCiCi – future active purposive (> johiḵi)
CɔCCɔ – past passive purposive (to go to have X done to oneself) (> dosko)
CɔCɪCi – present passive purposive (> dosiḵi)
CɔCiCi – future passive purposive (> dohiḵi)
Geminating the first consonant in a root leads to an intensive, more or less. Geminating the second consonant leads to a reflexive, more or less. In cases where the first consonant is geminated but is word-initial, the vowel *a- is added; in cases where a geminated consonant is in contact with another consonant, an *a is inserted to break up the cluster.
*addask "leave no stone unturned"
*dassak "find oneself"
Further derivations
*qaCCaC – elative (also used to form ordinal numbers—*qadra > qadsa "fourth")
*ɹaCoCC – abstract/conceptual nominalizer
*CaCoC – resultative (*√ʔpr "know" > *ʔapor > ʔafor "experience, insight, wisdom, advice")
*CaCCɛ – malady (*√brg "hair" > *bargɛ > marge "baldness, mange")
*CaCeC – rare participializer usually used with numbers or colors
Adpositions
You may have noticed that nominals generally have *a as the first vowel. Certain adpositional relations are indicated by changing the first vowel of a nominal, whether a nominalized root or a pattern. I don't really have examples for this yet. I'm also considering not doing this because it seems too artificial, but I wanted to get y'all's opinions about it.
*u – instrumental
*ʊ – inside, in
*o – dative
*ɛ – concerning, about
*e – from
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
I like triconsonantal-root languages in general because I am a fan of the Semitic language aesthetic, however I often wonder why triconsonantal langs are treated like a 'grouping' in the way isolating, agglutinating, etc. languages are when it comes to conlanging.
Aren't triconsonantal roots very specific to Semitic languages due to (probable) unique sound changes which produced this system? I am intrigued by conlangs which use triconsonantal systems and by how they developed a system which is nearly always a replica of the Semitic system (unless the conlang is meant to be part of the Semitic family).
Of course, that is not to say a triconsonantal conlang is bad, I just always equate them with Semitic-ness. Triconsonantal roots may be better regarded as a specific type of morphology or morpho-phonological alterations specific to Semitic languages, than a general 'language type'. I would be interested to know if there are any non-Semitic natlangs which use a triconsonantal system similar to the Semitic style?
Aren't triconsonantal roots very specific to Semitic languages due to (probable) unique sound changes which produced this system? I am intrigued by conlangs which use triconsonantal systems and by how they developed a system which is nearly always a replica of the Semitic system (unless the conlang is meant to be part of the Semitic family).
Of course, that is not to say a triconsonantal conlang is bad, I just always equate them with Semitic-ness. Triconsonantal roots may be better regarded as a specific type of morphology or morpho-phonological alterations specific to Semitic languages, than a general 'language type'. I would be interested to know if there are any non-Semitic natlangs which use a triconsonantal system similar to the Semitic style?
Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
If I remember correctly, someone, either here or over on the ZBB, mentioned a native North American language which had something like triconsonantal roots.Davush wrote:I would be interested to know if there are any non-Semitic natlangs which use a triconsonantal system similar to the Semitic style?
Excluding that, though, a number of languages use morphology similar to Semitic languages, i.e. nonconcatenative morphology (through process like ablaut and reduplication), alongside prefixes and suffixes to indicate differences in grammatical meaning (PIE, for example, Proto-Kartvelian and several languages of North America and Africa, including related Afro-Asiatic languages but other non-related languages as well).
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
My conlang, while having a triconsonantal root sytem, is still very distinct. Although, at first, it was very Semitic.Davush wrote:I am intrigued by conlangs which use triconsonantal systems and by how they developed a system which is nearly always a replica of the Semitic system (unless the conlang is meant to be part of the Semitic family).
Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
Dishashta also has non-ablaut based apophony in verbal forms. For the most part, however, nouns aren't derived from these roots, meaning that it strictly isn't a tricon.Ahzoh wrote:My conlang, while having a triconsonantal root sytem, is still very distinct. Although, at first, it was very Semitic.Davush wrote:I am intrigued by conlangs which use triconsonantal systems and by how they developed a system which is nearly always a replica of the Semitic system (unless the conlang is meant to be part of the Semitic family).
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
Let's do a SYSTEM REBOOT.
Start with the following phonology.
/n/
/p b t d k g q ʔ/
/s/
/w l ɹ j/
/u ʊ o ɔ a ɛ e ɪ i/
In a two-vowel sequence, the first vowel drops:
V > Ø / _V
Next, put the vowels through something like the 7-to-5 vowel merger that happened in some Bantu dialects.
C > C[+ lenited] / _V[+ tense] (i.e., any of /u o e i/)
ʊ ɔ ɛ ɪ > u o e i
The patterns work like so; C = consonant, R = lenited consonant because it was a good letter to work with at the time:
C ~ R
n ~ ɹ
p b ~ f v
t d ~ ts dz (<c j>)
k g ~ x ɣ (<ḵ ḡ>)
q ~ χ (<ḥ>)
ʔ ~ h
s ~ h
ɹ ~ j (<y>)
ɬ (<ł>) ~ l (analogical; happens after changes mentioned above)
ʍ ts ~ w j (also analogical)
Then, a few rules to rid ourselves of final high vowels:
oCu oCi > uoC ioC / _#
eCu eCi > ueC ieC / _#
CuCCɪ # Present active
-i CuCCi > RuCRi (e.g., *gunbi > ɣunvi)
-e CuCCe > RuCRe
-Ø CuCCɪ > RuCCi
-nɛ CuCCɪnɛ > RuCCine
-in CuCCin > RuCRin
-ne CuCCɪne > RuCCire
-te CuCCɪte > RuCCice
-o CuCCo > RuCRo
-u CuCCu > RuCRu
-ar CuCCar > RuCCar
-or CuCCor > RuCRor
-ɪ CuCCɪ > RuCCi > RuCCio (by analogy with other active 3PL forms)
CʊCoC # Present passive
-i CʊCoCi > CuRoRi > CuRioR
-e CʊCoCe > CuRoRe
-Ø CʊCoC > CuRoC
-nɛ CʊCoCnɛ > CuRoCne
-in CʊCoCin > CuRoRin
-ne CʊCoCne > CuRoCre
-te CʊCoCte > CuRoCce
-o CʊCoCo > CuRoRo
-u CʊCoCu > CuRoRu > CuRuoR
-ar CʊCoCar > CuRoRar
-or CʊCoCor > CuRoRor
-ɪ CʊCoCɪ > CuRoCi > CuRioC
aCCɔC # Future passive
-i aCCɔCi > aCCoRi > aCCioR
-e aCCɔCe > aCCoRe
-Ø aCCɔC > aCCoC
-nɛ aCCɔCne > aCCoCre
-in aCCɔCin > aCCoRin
-ne aCCɔCne > aCCoCre
-te aCCɔCte > aCCoCce
-o aCCɔCo > aCCoRo
-u aCCɔCu > aCCoRu > aCCuoR
-ar aCCɔCar > aCCoCar
-or aCCɔCor > aCCoRor
-ɪ aCCɔCɪ > aCCoCi > aCCioC
aCCoC # Future active
-i aCCoCi > aCRoRi > aCRioR
-e aCCoCe > aCRoRe
-Ø aCCoC > aCRoC
-nɛ aCCoCnɛ > aCRoCne
-in aCCoCin > aCRoRin
-ne aCCoCne > aCRoCre
-te aCCoCte > aCRoCce
-o aCCoCo > aCRoRo
-u aCCoCu > aCRoRu > aCRuoR
-ar aCCoCar > aCRoCar
-or aCCoCor > aCRoRor
-ɪ aCCoCɪ > aCRoCi > aCRioC
CiCɛC # Past passive
-i CiCɛCi > RiCeRi > RiCieR
-e CiCɛCe > RiCeRe
-Ø CiCɛC > RiCeC
-nɛ CiCɛCnɛ > RiCeCne
-in CiCɛCin > RiCeRin
-ne CiCɛCne > RiCeCre
-te CiCɛCte > RiCeCce
-o CiCɛCo > RiCeRo
-u CiCɛCu > RiCeRu > RiCueR
-ar CiCɛCar > RiCeCar
-or CiCɛCor > RiCeRor
-ɪ CiCɛCɪ > RiCeCi > RiCieC
CiCeC # Past active
-i CiCeCi > RiReRi > RiRieR
-e CiCeCe > RiReRe
-Ø CiCeC > RiReC
-nɛ CiCeCnɛ > RiReCne
-in CiCeCin > RiReRin
-ne CiCeCne > RiReCre
-te CiCeCte > RiReCce
-o CiCeCo > RiReRo
-u CiCeCu > RiReRu > RiRueR
-ar CiCeCar > RiReRar
-or CiCeCor > RiReRor
-ɪ CiCeCɪ > RiReCi > RiRieC
CaCiC # Singular active imperative
CaCiC > CaRiC
CoCCo # Singular passive imperative
CoCCo > RoCRo
CɛCCon # Dual active imperative
CɛCCon > CeCRon
CiCanC # Dual passive imperative
CiCanC > RiCanC
CiCteC # Paucal active imperative
CiCteC > RiCceC
CaCtaC # Paucal passive imperative
CaCtaC > CaCtaC
CʊCCɪ # Plural active imperative
CʊCCɪ > CuCCi
CuCaC # Plural passive imperative
CuCaC > RuCaC
For the personal endings…
SINGULAR
-i
-e
-Ø
DUAL
-nɛ
-in
-ne
PAUCAL (typically five or less)
-te
-o
-u
PLURAL
-ar
-or
-ɪ
Start with the following phonology.
/n/
/p b t d k g q ʔ/
/s/
/w l ɹ j/
/u ʊ o ɔ a ɛ e ɪ i/
In a two-vowel sequence, the first vowel drops:
V > Ø / _V
Next, put the vowels through something like the 7-to-5 vowel merger that happened in some Bantu dialects.
C > C[+ lenited] / _V[+ tense] (i.e., any of /u o e i/)
ʊ ɔ ɛ ɪ > u o e i
The patterns work like so; C = consonant, R = lenited consonant because it was a good letter to work with at the time:
C ~ R
n ~ ɹ
p b ~ f v
t d ~ ts dz (<c j>)
k g ~ x ɣ (<ḵ ḡ>)
q ~ χ (<ḥ>)
ʔ ~ h
s ~ h
ɹ ~ j (<y>)
ɬ (<ł>) ~ l (analogical; happens after changes mentioned above)
ʍ ts ~ w j (also analogical)
Then, a few rules to rid ourselves of final high vowels:
oCu oCi > uoC ioC / _#
eCu eCi > ueC ieC / _#
CuCCɪ # Present active
-i CuCCi > RuCRi (e.g., *gunbi > ɣunvi)
-e CuCCe > RuCRe
-Ø CuCCɪ > RuCCi
-nɛ CuCCɪnɛ > RuCCine
-in CuCCin > RuCRin
-ne CuCCɪne > RuCCire
-te CuCCɪte > RuCCice
-o CuCCo > RuCRo
-u CuCCu > RuCRu
-ar CuCCar > RuCCar
-or CuCCor > RuCRor
-ɪ CuCCɪ > RuCCi > RuCCio (by analogy with other active 3PL forms)
CʊCoC # Present passive
-i CʊCoCi > CuRoRi > CuRioR
-e CʊCoCe > CuRoRe
-Ø CʊCoC > CuRoC
-nɛ CʊCoCnɛ > CuRoCne
-in CʊCoCin > CuRoRin
-ne CʊCoCne > CuRoCre
-te CʊCoCte > CuRoCce
-o CʊCoCo > CuRoRo
-u CʊCoCu > CuRoRu > CuRuoR
-ar CʊCoCar > CuRoRar
-or CʊCoCor > CuRoRor
-ɪ CʊCoCɪ > CuRoCi > CuRioC
aCCɔC # Future passive
-i aCCɔCi > aCCoRi > aCCioR
-e aCCɔCe > aCCoRe
-Ø aCCɔC > aCCoC
-nɛ aCCɔCne > aCCoCre
-in aCCɔCin > aCCoRin
-ne aCCɔCne > aCCoCre
-te aCCɔCte > aCCoCce
-o aCCɔCo > aCCoRo
-u aCCɔCu > aCCoRu > aCCuoR
-ar aCCɔCar > aCCoCar
-or aCCɔCor > aCCoRor
-ɪ aCCɔCɪ > aCCoCi > aCCioC
aCCoC # Future active
-i aCCoCi > aCRoRi > aCRioR
-e aCCoCe > aCRoRe
-Ø aCCoC > aCRoC
-nɛ aCCoCnɛ > aCRoCne
-in aCCoCin > aCRoRin
-ne aCCoCne > aCRoCre
-te aCCoCte > aCRoCce
-o aCCoCo > aCRoRo
-u aCCoCu > aCRoRu > aCRuoR
-ar aCCoCar > aCRoCar
-or aCCoCor > aCRoRor
-ɪ aCCoCɪ > aCRoCi > aCRioC
CiCɛC # Past passive
-i CiCɛCi > RiCeRi > RiCieR
-e CiCɛCe > RiCeRe
-Ø CiCɛC > RiCeC
-nɛ CiCɛCnɛ > RiCeCne
-in CiCɛCin > RiCeRin
-ne CiCɛCne > RiCeCre
-te CiCɛCte > RiCeCce
-o CiCɛCo > RiCeRo
-u CiCɛCu > RiCeRu > RiCueR
-ar CiCɛCar > RiCeCar
-or CiCɛCor > RiCeRor
-ɪ CiCɛCɪ > RiCeCi > RiCieC
CiCeC # Past active
-i CiCeCi > RiReRi > RiRieR
-e CiCeCe > RiReRe
-Ø CiCeC > RiReC
-nɛ CiCeCnɛ > RiReCne
-in CiCeCin > RiReRin
-ne CiCeCne > RiReCre
-te CiCeCte > RiReCce
-o CiCeCo > RiReRo
-u CiCeCu > RiReRu > RiRueR
-ar CiCeCar > RiReRar
-or CiCeCor > RiReRor
-ɪ CiCeCɪ > RiReCi > RiRieC
CaCiC # Singular active imperative
CaCiC > CaRiC
CoCCo # Singular passive imperative
CoCCo > RoCRo
CɛCCon # Dual active imperative
CɛCCon > CeCRon
CiCanC # Dual passive imperative
CiCanC > RiCanC
CiCteC # Paucal active imperative
CiCteC > RiCceC
CaCtaC # Paucal passive imperative
CaCtaC > CaCtaC
CʊCCɪ # Plural active imperative
CʊCCɪ > CuCCi
CuCaC # Plural passive imperative
CuCaC > RuCaC
For the personal endings…
SINGULAR
-i
-e
-Ø
DUAL
-nɛ
-in
-ne
PAUCAL (typically five or less)
-te
-o
-u
PLURAL
-ar
-or
-ɪ
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
Here we go again. Lots of spoiler text in this one; a lot of it is so I don't lose data/examples. A lot of this is based rather closely on Mecislau's write-up of the origin of triconsonantal morphology on the ZBB as well as, to a lesser extent, Simpson's 2009 dissertation on the origin of Semitic morphology.
Start with the following phonology. Again.
/n/
/p b t d k g q ʔ/
/s/
/w l ɹ j/
/u ʊ o ɔ a ɛ e ɪ i/
Next, put the vowels through something like the 7-to-5 vowel merger that happened in some Bantu dialects. Again.
C > C[+ lenited] / _V[+ tense] (i.e., any of /u o e i/)
ʊ ɔ ɛ ɪ > u o e i
The patterns work like so; C = consonant, R = lenited consonant because it was a good letter to work with at the time:
C ~ R
n ~ ɹ
p b ~ f v
t d ~ ts dz (<c j>)
k g ~ x ɣ (<ḵ ḡ>)
q ~ χ (<ḥ>)
ʔ ~ h
s ~ h
l ~ w
ɹ ~ j (<y>)
{w.j} ~ ː (unless at the beginning of a word, in which case they would go to a vowel)
The typical root shapes were -CVC- and -CCVC-.
Now, CV1CV2# > CV2C#. The penult vowel in this case assimilated to a final vowel, which then dropped. This means that the tenses are now marked by ablaut since they were initially of the form -V.
A brief list of some of the preverbs that eventually fused with some biconsonantal roots (basically the pretonic vowel was unstressed and everything went to *a in this position):
*ʔa- "to do X near the ground"
*sa- "to do X badly, mis-"
*ra- "to do X away (from)"
*na- "to do X to and fro"
*ba- "to do X along a slanted surface"
*-ɪs was the early agentive participializer.
Gerunds come from the triconsonantal root: *CCVCi. Biconsonantal-to-triconsonantal gerunds (*Ca-CVCi > *CaCiR) analogized out.
Gerund: CCiR > E: iCCiR / W: CiCiR / N: aCCiR
Agent nominalizers come from the biconsonantal participle. The form originally had to be a trisyllable since the second consonant is lenited, and the reflex shows evidence of a tense vowel, though this could be an analogical effect. Original suffixes: *-ɪs, *-is, *-ɔs.
Agent nominalizer: CaRCis
Agent plural: CaRRis
Agent collective: CaRCos >
E: CaRCoC / W: CaRsoC / N: CaRCo >
E: CaRCoC / W: CaRːoC / N: CaRCo >
E: CaRCoC / W: CaːRoC / N: CaRCo
Patient nominalizers come from the triconsonantal root—biconsonantals were often intransitive. If I'm reading this right the shapes of the original suffixes were *-ɛn, *-en, *-ɛn-ɔs.
Patient nominalizer: CCaCen > E: CaCCen / W: CaCaCen / N: aCCaCen
Patient plural: CCeRen > E: CeCRen / W: CeCeRen / N: aCCeRen
Patient collective: CCeCnos > E: CeCCnon / W: CeCeCson / N: aCCeCno >
E: CeCCnon / W: CeCeCːon / N: aCCeCno >
E: CeCCũ / W: CeCeːCon / N: aCCeCno >
E: CaCCũ / W: CeCiːCon / N: aCCeCno
Start with the following phonology. Again.
/n/
/p b t d k g q ʔ/
/s/
/w l ɹ j/
/u ʊ o ɔ a ɛ e ɪ i/
Next, put the vowels through something like the 7-to-5 vowel merger that happened in some Bantu dialects. Again.
C > C[+ lenited] / _V[+ tense] (i.e., any of /u o e i/)
ʊ ɔ ɛ ɪ > u o e i
The patterns work like so; C = consonant, R = lenited consonant because it was a good letter to work with at the time:
C ~ R
n ~ ɹ
p b ~ f v
t d ~ ts dz (<c j>)
k g ~ x ɣ (<ḵ ḡ>)
q ~ χ (<ḥ>)
ʔ ~ h
s ~ h
l ~ w
ɹ ~ j (<y>)
{w.j} ~ ː (unless at the beginning of a word, in which case they would go to a vowel)
The typical root shapes were -CVC- and -CCVC-.
Now, CV1CV2# > CV2C#. The penult vowel in this case assimilated to a final vowel, which then dropped. This means that the tenses are now marked by ablaut since they were initially of the form -V.
A brief list of some of the preverbs that eventually fused with some biconsonantal roots (basically the pretonic vowel was unstressed and everything went to *a in this position):
*ʔa- "to do X near the ground"
*sa- "to do X badly, mis-"
*ra- "to do X away (from)"
*na- "to do X to and fro"
*ba- "to do X along a slanted surface"
*-ɪs was the early agentive participializer.
Spoiler:
Gerund: CCiR > E: iCCiR / W: CiCiR / N: aCCiR
Spoiler:
Agent nominalizer: CaRCis
Agent plural: CaRRis
Agent collective: CaRCos >
E: CaRCoC / W: CaRsoC / N: CaRCo >
E: CaRCoC / W: CaRːoC / N: CaRCo >
E: CaRCoC / W: CaːRoC / N: CaRCo
Spoiler:
Patient nominalizer: CCaCen > E: CaCCen / W: CaCaCen / N: aCCaCen
Patient plural: CCeRen > E: CeCRen / W: CeCeRen / N: aCCeRen
Patient collective: CCeCnos > E: CeCCnon / W: CeCeCson / N: aCCeCno >
E: CeCCnon / W: CeCeCːon / N: aCCeCno >
E: CeCCũ / W: CeCeːCon / N: aCCeCno >
E: CaCCũ / W: CeCiːCon / N: aCCeCno
Spoiler:
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
I just realized that I didn't post much about the verbs themselves.
*-ʊ PST
*-ɪ PRES
*-a FUT
C(a)CVC-X > C(a)CXC
So verb root final vowels take on the characteristic vowel of the suffix, which then drops.
The original verb *qɛ 'force, compel' is an interesting case. It developed a prefixal form *qa- that ended up on a bunch of biliteral roots:
*qa-dar-ʊ 'force to walk' > *√qdr, *qadur 'condemn to exile'
The verb stem analogizes to CaCVC under the influence of the biconsonantal roots plus prefix. Yes, this is a lot of *a, but Sanskrit had a lot of it as well.
THE EASTERN GROUP
The eastern group is characterized by the following sound changes:
- Ø > i / #_CCV(C)#
- CCVC > CVCC / #_
- {s,r} > C₃ / C₁(V)C₂(V)C₃V_#
- a > ã
- Bn an En > ũ ã ĩ / _%
- n > Ø / C_V[+ nas]
- {o,e} > a
The eastern group innovated an intensive via reduplication:
C₁aC₂VC₃ > C₁aC₂VC₃C₂VC₃
*√sql "prick; inject" saqul > saqulqul "stab"
THE WESTERN GROUP
The western group is characterized by the following sound changes:
- Ø > V / C_CVC
- C₃Vs C₃Vr > sVC₃ rVC₃
- Cs > Cː
The western group innovated a repetitive/iterative via reduplication:
C₁aC₂VC₃ > C₁aC₂VC₃VC₃ > C₁aC₂C₃VC₃
*√sql > saqlul
THE NORTHERN GROUP
The northern group is characterized by the following sound changes:
- Ø > a / #_CC
- {s,n} > Ø / _# ! = C₃
- {k,q} g {x,χ} > ʃ ʒ j / _E
The northern group developed a reflexive via, you guessed it, reduplication. The original reflexive construction ended up as a passive.
C₁aC₂VC₂VC₃
saququl
*-ʊ PST
*-ɪ PRES
*-a FUT
C(a)CVC-X > C(a)CXC
So verb root final vowels take on the characteristic vowel of the suffix, which then drops.
The original verb *qɛ 'force, compel' is an interesting case. It developed a prefixal form *qa- that ended up on a bunch of biliteral roots:
*qa-dar-ʊ 'force to walk' > *√qdr, *qadur 'condemn to exile'
The verb stem analogizes to CaCVC under the influence of the biconsonantal roots plus prefix. Yes, this is a lot of *a, but Sanskrit had a lot of it as well.
THE EASTERN GROUP
The eastern group is characterized by the following sound changes:
- Ø > i / #_CCV(C)#
- CCVC > CVCC / #_
- {s,r} > C₃ / C₁(V)C₂(V)C₃V_#
- a > ã
- Bn an En > ũ ã ĩ / _%
- n > Ø / C_V[+ nas]
- {o,e} > a
The eastern group innovated an intensive via reduplication:
C₁aC₂VC₃ > C₁aC₂VC₃C₂VC₃
*√sql "prick; inject" saqul > saqulqul "stab"
Spoiler:
The western group is characterized by the following sound changes:
- Ø > V / C_CVC
- C₃Vs C₃Vr > sVC₃ rVC₃
- Cs > Cː
The western group innovated a repetitive/iterative via reduplication:
C₁aC₂VC₃ > C₁aC₂VC₃VC₃ > C₁aC₂C₃VC₃
*√sql > saqlul
THE NORTHERN GROUP
The northern group is characterized by the following sound changes:
- Ø > a / #_CC
- {s,n} > Ø / _# ! = C₃
- {k,q} g {x,χ} > ʃ ʒ j / _E
The northern group developed a reflexive via, you guessed it, reduplication. The original reflexive construction ended up as a passive.
C₁aC₂VC₂VC₃
saququl
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
The pronoun *ar REFLEXIVE would often come between the subject and the verb:
*X ar saqul "he condemned himself to exile"
Eventually the *ar fused to the verb, yielding forms like *ar-saqul. The *r often assimilated to the first consonant giving a pattern aC₁ːaC₂VC₃:
*assaqil "prick oneself" (> N "be pricked, get stuck")
*aqqadir "seclude oneself, exile oneself" (> N "get exiled, be thrown out")
The gerunds developed like this:
*ar-C₁C₂iR₃ > E: aC₁ːC₂iR₃ ~ (in a minority of languages) C₁aC₂iR₃ / W: aC₁ːiC₂iR₃ / N: arC₁C₂iR₃ > raC₁C₂iR₃ > C₁aC₁C₂iR₃
√sql
asːqiw ~ saqiw / asːiqiw / arsqiw > rasqiw > sasqiw
This could also be applied to the results of reduplication:
E: arC₁aC₂iR₃C₂iR₃ arsaqiwqiw > aC₁ːaC₂iR₃C₂iR₃ asːaqiwqiw > ãsːãqiwqiw
W: ar-C₁aC₂iR₃iR₃ arsaqiwiw > arC₁C₂iR₃iR₃ > aC₁C₂iR₃iR₃ asqiwiw
*X ar saqul "he condemned himself to exile"
Eventually the *ar fused to the verb, yielding forms like *ar-saqul. The *r often assimilated to the first consonant giving a pattern aC₁ːaC₂VC₃:
*assaqil "prick oneself" (> N "be pricked, get stuck")
*aqqadir "seclude oneself, exile oneself" (> N "get exiled, be thrown out")
The gerunds developed like this:
*ar-C₁C₂iR₃ > E: aC₁ːC₂iR₃ ~ (in a minority of languages) C₁aC₂iR₃ / W: aC₁ːiC₂iR₃ / N: arC₁C₂iR₃ > raC₁C₂iR₃ > C₁aC₁C₂iR₃
√sql
asːqiw ~ saqiw / asːiqiw / arsqiw > rasqiw > sasqiw
This could also be applied to the results of reduplication:
E: arC₁aC₂iR₃C₂iR₃ arsaqiwqiw > aC₁ːaC₂iR₃C₂iR₃ asːaqiwqiw > ãsːãqiwqiw
W: ar-C₁aC₂iR₃iR₃ arsaqiwiw > arC₁C₂iR₃iR₃ > aC₁C₂iR₃iR₃ asqiwiw
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
Place nominalizers
Nominalizations of characteristic places come from an earlier *-o. The resultant patterns are:
ptVno > ptor ~ pator
prVto > proc ~ paroc
Singular: ʔa-nVd-o > ʔanoj CaCoR *√sql saqow
Plural: ʔa-nVd-un > ʔanujun > ʔanjun CaCRun *√sql saqwun
Collective: ʔa-nVd-o-ɔs > ʔanVdos > ʔandos CaCCos *√sql saqlos
Colors and Numbers
Colors are an interesting formation. There are two forms for colors; just why these forms came to be associated with colors is anyone's guess. Numbers from one to six also use both of these two forms.
ReCCu
RiR(e)Cɛ
*√bnr 'plant'
> venru 'green'
> virere > virre 'green'
*√qpr 'float, drift' (> *qafros 'clouds')
> χepru 'white' ('cloud-colored')
> χifre 'white' (v.s.)
The plural is formed by analogy with the plural of the agent nominalizer:
ReCCu *χepru 'white (sg.)' > ReCRu *χepyu 'white (pl.)'
RiRCe *χifre > RiRRe *χifye
Numbers one to six. Some of these have been generalized into roots of their own.
*√bkt 'lone' > vektu 'one'
*√ʔts 'double' > hetsu 'two'
*√wgr 'be left over' (> *wigrɛ > *uiɣre) iɣre 'three'
*√rlb 'be even, be equal, be distributed evenly' > yelbu 'four'
*√pkd 'grab; hand' > fixde 'five'
*√nt > net 'six'
Habitual/characteristic nominalizer:
CCVC-er
CRVRer > E: iC₁R₂VR₃eR₃ / W: C₁R₂VreR₃ > CVRːeR / N: aC₁R₂VR₃e
CaCVC-er
CaCVRer > CaCRer
CCVC-ir
CRVRir > CRVriR
CaCVCir
> CaCVRir > CaCRir
CCVC-rʊ
> CRuCru > CRVCru
CaCVCru
> CaCVCru > CaCCru
Miscellanea
The form CoRCa : CoRCan : CoRCas occasionally pops up. When it does, it typically seems to refer to a specific location or structure:
*√tbr 'pile up' > *tovra 'pile of stones used as a landmark' (> 'landmark')
*√dsr 'graze' > *dohra 'cattle enclosure'
*√lsk 'be ill' > *lohka 'sick-bed'
*√wjl 'live in, reside' > *woːla 'house'
*√kdn 'sit' > *kojna 'shade (of trees, buildings)'
*√ʔls 'tan, dry' > *ʔowsa 'clothesline'
*√kls 'excel' > *kowsa 'playing field (sports), obstacle course, training course'
*√qpq 'die' > *qofqa 'deathbed'
Ignore this, this is my own record-keeping:
Nominalizations of characteristic places come from an earlier *-o. The resultant patterns are:
ptVno > ptor ~ pator
prVto > proc ~ paroc
Singular: ʔa-nVd-o > ʔanoj CaCoR *√sql saqow
Plural: ʔa-nVd-un > ʔanujun > ʔanjun CaCRun *√sql saqwun
Collective: ʔa-nVd-o-ɔs > ʔanVdos > ʔandos CaCCos *√sql saqlos
Colors and Numbers
Colors are an interesting formation. There are two forms for colors; just why these forms came to be associated with colors is anyone's guess. Numbers from one to six also use both of these two forms.
ReCCu
RiR(e)Cɛ
*√bnr 'plant'
> venru 'green'
> virere > virre 'green'
*√qpr 'float, drift' (> *qafros 'clouds')
> χepru 'white' ('cloud-colored')
> χifre 'white' (v.s.)
The plural is formed by analogy with the plural of the agent nominalizer:
ReCCu *χepru 'white (sg.)' > ReCRu *χepyu 'white (pl.)'
RiRCe *χifre > RiRRe *χifye
Numbers one to six. Some of these have been generalized into roots of their own.
*√bkt 'lone' > vektu 'one'
*√ʔts 'double' > hetsu 'two'
*√wgr 'be left over' (> *wigrɛ > *uiɣre) iɣre 'three'
*√rlb 'be even, be equal, be distributed evenly' > yelbu 'four'
*√pkd 'grab; hand' > fixde 'five'
*√nt > net 'six'
Habitual/characteristic nominalizer:
CCVC-er
CRVRer > E: iC₁R₂VR₃eR₃ / W: C₁R₂VreR₃ > CVRːeR / N: aC₁R₂VR₃e
CaCVC-er
CaCVRer > CaCRer
CCVC-ir
CRVRir > CRVriR
CaCVCir
> CaCVRir > CaCRir
CCVC-rʊ
> CRuCru > CRVCru
CaCVCru
> CaCVCru > CaCCru
Miscellanea
The form CoRCa : CoRCan : CoRCas occasionally pops up. When it does, it typically seems to refer to a specific location or structure:
*√tbr 'pile up' > *tovra 'pile of stones used as a landmark' (> 'landmark')
*√dsr 'graze' > *dohra 'cattle enclosure'
*√lsk 'be ill' > *lohka 'sick-bed'
*√wjl 'live in, reside' > *woːla 'house'
*√kdn 'sit' > *kojna 'shade (of trees, buildings)'
*√ʔls 'tan, dry' > *ʔowsa 'clothesline'
*√kls 'excel' > *kowsa 'playing field (sports), obstacle course, training course'
*√qpq 'die' > *qofqa 'deathbed'
Ignore this, this is my own record-keeping:
Spoiler:
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
Pronouns!
1SG *a > *a
2SG *nur > *rur
3SG *sɪqɪr > *siqir
1PL *a-i > *i (> *iː by analogy with the other plurals)
2PL *nur-i > *riy > *riː
3PL *sɪqɪr-i > *siχiy > *siχiː
1COLL *a-ɔs > *os
2COLL *nur-ɔs > *ruros
3COLL *sɪqɪr-ɔs > *siqros
Animals
Some animals names were originally unanalyzable in the scheme:
*tɔsɔr > *tosor 'type of animal'
*ptɛr > *pter 'type of animal'
These were analogically extended to fit into the root-and-pattern system:
*CɔCɔC > *CoCoC
*CɔCɔCis > *CoCRis
*CɔCɔCɔs > *CoCCos
*CCɛC > *CCeC
*CCɛCis > *CCeRis ~ *CeCRis (by analogy with the other animal derivation)
*CCɛCɔs > *CCeCos ~ *CeCCos (by analogy with the other animal derivation)
So you get new coinages like:
*√str 'annoy' > *sotor / *sotyis / *sotros 'gnat, fly'
*√krb 'whittle' > *kreb / *kervis / *kerbos 'woodpecker'
*√qst 'blow, gust' > *qset / *qescis / *qestos 'dragon'
*√npr 'announce' > *nopor ~ *nper / *nopyis ~ *nepyis / *nopros ~ *nepros 'type of bird known for its call'
This also goes the other way:
*poqot 'type of lizard' > *√pqt 'lie in the sun'
*qter 'type of fish eaten for food' > *√qtr 'gut a fish'
*nonoq 'type of lizard' > *√nnq 'be venomous'
*tsen 'moth' > *√tsn 'moonlight'
The Northern Branch
I'm thinking of removing the sound change Ø > a / #_CC. I realize this will create problems with the sonority hierarchy—some consonants will become syllabic or vocalize or maybe an epenthetic vowel will appear in some later developments of the languages.
1SG *a > *a
2SG *nur > *rur
3SG *sɪqɪr > *siqir
1PL *a-i > *i (> *iː by analogy with the other plurals)
2PL *nur-i > *riy > *riː
3PL *sɪqɪr-i > *siχiy > *siχiː
1COLL *a-ɔs > *os
2COLL *nur-ɔs > *ruros
3COLL *sɪqɪr-ɔs > *siqros
Animals
Some animals names were originally unanalyzable in the scheme:
*tɔsɔr > *tosor 'type of animal'
*ptɛr > *pter 'type of animal'
These were analogically extended to fit into the root-and-pattern system:
*CɔCɔC > *CoCoC
*CɔCɔCis > *CoCRis
*CɔCɔCɔs > *CoCCos
*CCɛC > *CCeC
*CCɛCis > *CCeRis ~ *CeCRis (by analogy with the other animal derivation)
*CCɛCɔs > *CCeCos ~ *CeCCos (by analogy with the other animal derivation)
So you get new coinages like:
*√str 'annoy' > *sotor / *sotyis / *sotros 'gnat, fly'
*√krb 'whittle' > *kreb / *kervis / *kerbos 'woodpecker'
*√qst 'blow, gust' > *qset / *qescis / *qestos 'dragon'
*√npr 'announce' > *nopor ~ *nper / *nopyis ~ *nepyis / *nopros ~ *nepros 'type of bird known for its call'
This also goes the other way:
*poqot 'type of lizard' > *√pqt 'lie in the sun'
*qter 'type of fish eaten for food' > *√qtr 'gut a fish'
*nonoq 'type of lizard' > *√nnq 'be venomous'
*tsen 'moth' > *√tsn 'moonlight'
The Northern Branch
I'm thinking of removing the sound change Ø > a / #_CC. I realize this will create problems with the sonority hierarchy—some consonants will become syllabic or vocalize or maybe an epenthetic vowel will appear in some later developments of the languages.
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Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
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Re: Linguifex's obligatory triconsonantal-root language
Some provisional ideas for northern languages
PN: {s,n} → Ø / _# ! = C3
PN: {k,q} g {x,χ} → ʃ ʒ j / _E
A: w → ʔ / E_%
A: a → ə / _C(C){u,i}(ː)
A: {B,a}w{B,a} {a,E}j{a,E} → Bː Eː
A: awV əwV → aː əː
A: V → Ø / VC(C)_#
A: w j → u i / C_#
A: a-epenthesis
A: aCː → C / #_
B: CVw → CʷVh
B: s → i / #_C
B: VhV → Vː
B: h → Ø / _#
B: Cn → nC / V_o#
B: Vn → Vː / _C
B: loss of short penult vowels in trisyllables
B: o(ː) e(ː) → u(ː) i(ː) / _#
B: VCː → VːC
B: uː oː aː eː iː → aʊ̯ oʊ̯ ɨ eɪ̯ aɪ̯
C: a → o / _C(C)u(ː)
C: a → e / _C(C)i(ː)
C: CːV → CVː
C: V → Ø / #_CVː
C: sʃV ʃsV → sVʃ ʃVs
C: w j → u i / C_{C,#}
C: k g x ɣ → tʃ dʒ ʃ ʒ
C: q χ → k x
C: a(ː) E(ː) → ja(ː) je(ː) / _K
C: s ts z dz → ʃ tʃ ʒ dʒ / _{k,x,j}
C: ja(ː) je(ː) → e(ː) i(ː)
C: {xC,Cx} → Cː
C: x → h
D: a → o / _C(C)u(ː)
D: a → e / _C(C)i(ː)
D: CːV → CVː
D: V → Ø / #_CVː
D: sʃV ʃsV → sVʃ ʃVs
D: w j → u i / C_{C,#}
D: V → Vː / _% ! _#
D: VC → CV / VC_#
D: o e → u i / _#
*CCiR
*√sql → *sqiw → *sʃiw → saʃiʔ / iʃʷi / siʃu / siːʃu
*√qnr → *qniː → *qniː → qniː / qnaɪ̯ / kniː / qniː
*CaRCis
*√sql → *saχlis → *saχli → səχal / saχli / ʃilːi / seχli
*√qnr → *qarris → *qarri → qərː / qɨri / keriː / qeːri
*CaRRis
*√sql → *saχwis → *saχwi → səχu / saχwi / ʃiwːi / seχwi
*√qnr → *qarjis → *qarji → qəri / qarji / kerji / qerji
*CaRCos
*√sql → *saχlos → *saχlo → saχal / saχlu / ʃelːo / saχlu
*√qnr → *qarros → *qarro → qarː / qɨru / karoː / qaːruː
*CCaCen
*√sql → *sqalen → *sqale → sqal / iqli / ʃkale / sqaːli
*√qnr → *qnaren → *qnare → qnar / qnari / knare / qnaːri
*CCeRen
*√sql → *sqewen → *sqewe → saʃeʔ / iʃʷaɪ̯ / ʃkewe / sqeːwi
*√qnr → *qnejen → *qneje → qneː / qneji / kneje / qneːji
*CCeCnos
*√sql → *sqelnos → *sʃelno → saʃeln / iʃeɪ̯lu / seʃlno / seʃlnu
*√qnr → *qnernos → *qnerno → qnern / qneɪ̯ru / knerno / qnernu
*aCːaCaC
*√sql → *asːaqal → *asːaqal → saqal / ɨsqal / ʃeːkal / saːqal
*√qnr → *aqːanar → *aqːanar → qanar / ɨqnar / kaːnar / qaːnar
*aCːaCiC
*√sql → *asːaqil → *asːaʃil → səʃil / ɨsʃil / seːʃil / seːʃil
*√qnr → *aqːanir → *aqːanir → qənir / ɨqnir / keːnir / qeːnir
*CaCoR
*√sql → *saqow → *saqow → saqow / saqʷu / ʃekow / saːqwu
*√qnr → *qanoj → *qanoj → qanoj / qanoj / kanoj / qaːnju
*CaCRun
*√sql → *saqwun → *saqwu → səqu / saqwu / ʃekwu / saqwu
*√qnr → *qanjun → *qanju → qəni / qanju / kanju / qanju
*CaCCos
*√sql → *saqlos → *saqlo → saqal / saqlu / ʃeklo / saqlu
*√qnr → *qanros → *qanro → qanar / qanru / kanro / qanru
PN: {s,n} → Ø / _# ! = C3
PN: {k,q} g {x,χ} → ʃ ʒ j / _E
A: w → ʔ / E_%
A: a → ə / _C(C){u,i}(ː)
A: {B,a}w{B,a} {a,E}j{a,E} → Bː Eː
A: awV əwV → aː əː
A: V → Ø / VC(C)_#
A: w j → u i / C_#
A: a-epenthesis
A: aCː → C / #_
B: CVw → CʷVh
B: s → i / #_C
B: VhV → Vː
B: h → Ø / _#
B: Cn → nC / V_o#
B: Vn → Vː / _C
B: loss of short penult vowels in trisyllables
B: o(ː) e(ː) → u(ː) i(ː) / _#
B: VCː → VːC
B: uː oː aː eː iː → aʊ̯ oʊ̯ ɨ eɪ̯ aɪ̯
C: a → o / _C(C)u(ː)
C: a → e / _C(C)i(ː)
C: CːV → CVː
C: V → Ø / #_CVː
C: sʃV ʃsV → sVʃ ʃVs
C: w j → u i / C_{C,#}
C: k g x ɣ → tʃ dʒ ʃ ʒ
C: q χ → k x
C: a(ː) E(ː) → ja(ː) je(ː) / _K
C: s ts z dz → ʃ tʃ ʒ dʒ / _{k,x,j}
C: ja(ː) je(ː) → e(ː) i(ː)
C: {xC,Cx} → Cː
C: x → h
D: a → o / _C(C)u(ː)
D: a → e / _C(C)i(ː)
D: CːV → CVː
D: V → Ø / #_CVː
D: sʃV ʃsV → sVʃ ʃVs
D: w j → u i / C_{C,#}
D: V → Vː / _% ! _#
D: VC → CV / VC_#
D: o e → u i / _#
*CCiR
*√sql → *sqiw → *sʃiw → saʃiʔ / iʃʷi / siʃu / siːʃu
*√qnr → *qniː → *qniː → qniː / qnaɪ̯ / kniː / qniː
*CaRCis
*√sql → *saχlis → *saχli → səχal / saχli / ʃilːi / seχli
*√qnr → *qarris → *qarri → qərː / qɨri / keriː / qeːri
*CaRRis
*√sql → *saχwis → *saχwi → səχu / saχwi / ʃiwːi / seχwi
*√qnr → *qarjis → *qarji → qəri / qarji / kerji / qerji
*CaRCos
*√sql → *saχlos → *saχlo → saχal / saχlu / ʃelːo / saχlu
*√qnr → *qarros → *qarro → qarː / qɨru / karoː / qaːruː
*CCaCen
*√sql → *sqalen → *sqale → sqal / iqli / ʃkale / sqaːli
*√qnr → *qnaren → *qnare → qnar / qnari / knare / qnaːri
*CCeRen
*√sql → *sqewen → *sqewe → saʃeʔ / iʃʷaɪ̯ / ʃkewe / sqeːwi
*√qnr → *qnejen → *qneje → qneː / qneji / kneje / qneːji
*CCeCnos
*√sql → *sqelnos → *sʃelno → saʃeln / iʃeɪ̯lu / seʃlno / seʃlnu
*√qnr → *qnernos → *qnerno → qnern / qneɪ̯ru / knerno / qnernu
*aCːaCaC
*√sql → *asːaqal → *asːaqal → saqal / ɨsqal / ʃeːkal / saːqal
*√qnr → *aqːanar → *aqːanar → qanar / ɨqnar / kaːnar / qaːnar
*aCːaCiC
*√sql → *asːaqil → *asːaʃil → səʃil / ɨsʃil / seːʃil / seːʃil
*√qnr → *aqːanir → *aqːanir → qənir / ɨqnir / keːnir / qeːnir
*CaCoR
*√sql → *saqow → *saqow → saqow / saqʷu / ʃekow / saːqwu
*√qnr → *qanoj → *qanoj → qanoj / qanoj / kanoj / qaːnju
*CaCRun
*√sql → *saqwun → *saqwu → səqu / saqwu / ʃekwu / saqwu
*√qnr → *qanjun → *qanju → qəni / qanju / kanju / qanju
*CaCCos
*√sql → *saqlos → *saqlo → saqal / saqlu / ʃeklo / saqlu
*√qnr → *qanros → *qanro → qanar / qanru / kanro / qanru
Twin Aster megathread
AVDIO · VIDEO · DISCO
CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma
AVDIO · VIDEO · DISCO
CC = Common Caber
CK = Classical Khaya
CT = Classical Ĝare n Tim Ar
Kg = Kgáweq'
PB = Proto-Beheic
PO = Proto-O
PTa = Proto-Taltic
STK = Sisỏk Tlar Kyanà
Tm = Təmattwəspwaypksma