The CBB

Thrice Xandvii wrote: ↑04 Jan 2021 12:52

elemtilas wrote: ↑02 Jan 2021 16:42I like the aesthetic of that script.

Anything in particular that you like?

I'd actually been thinking about this question. I think what I'd say is that you, by chance or by design, struck that balance between the letters all looking the same vs letters of radically different shapes on one axis, along with the script appearing to form an organic whole vs a script that appears to be a pastiche. In other words, you made a script that not only looks plausible, but is also convincingly realistic!

Aesthetically, I particularly like the elegant simplicity of the letter forms and the rounded angles (which I imagine could in world be a matter of font design rather than actual letter evolution). You've got some ascenders, some descenders, some bits that stick out to left & right, which avoids boxiness (even though, to be frank, most of the letters áre in fact boxes!).

All that shows not only skill but artistry!

elemtilas wrote: ↑05 Jan 2021 23:50 [...]
All that shows not only skill but artistry!

Well thank you much for that! It also makes me happy that I managed to do this in MSPaint with tenacity and a base font to start from.

Yes, the goal for my scripts is typically realism, so I'm glad that I seemingly achieved that.

As an aside, two of the vowels have a different form when terminal (they resemble the turned V and the T shape), both of which are shown in the script proper and have tails... but lose the tails when internal to a word (which are shown off to the side).

Today I added a new conjunction to my Kankonian grammar:

A descriptive "which" which implies an "and" comment -- usually in such a construction in "which it is" or "which it isn't" -- is translated as azmui (which+and):

Stamos ashoven az heshra umbish as barudar, azmui wan as.
Stamos comment-PST that heshra current PRS fascist_pig REL-and 3s PRS
Stamos commented that the current heshra was a fascist pig, which he is.

Piqana zararas az kyupidzik as kasht, azmui wan os as.
Piqana insist-PRS that birth_control PRS wrong REL-and 3s NEG PRS
Piqana insists that birth control is wrong, which it isn't.

My newest Kankonian words: phalksarenphuphzin, meaning "known unknown" and phalirenphuphzin, meaning "unknown unknown". They shorten to phalksar and phalir respectively.

These two words are borrowed from the Achel pralksarenphuphzin and pralirenphuphzin, which translate respectively to "outer-layer ignorance" and "inner-layer ignorance".

Added the word for lesbian to my Rireinutire dictionary.

ropepurepiyarupapiñi /ˈɹopepuˌɹepijɑˌɹupɑpiŋi/ n. R lesbian

It's not a word that gets much use, but the Rireinukave have had their horizons broadened quite a bit after coming in contact with galactics.

prettydragoon wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021 21:54 Added the word for lesbian to my Rireinutire dictionary.

ropepurepiyarupapiñi /ˈɹopepuˌɹepijɑˌɹupɑpiŋi/ n. R lesbian

It's not a word that gets much use, but the Rireinukave have had their horizons broadened quite a bit after coming in contact with galactics.

Curious: what does it signify? It looks like it's made up of three words, is that right?

Khemehekis wrote: ↑11 Jan 2021 12:43 My newest Kankonian words: phalksarenphuphzin, meaning "known unknown" and phalirenphuphzin, meaning "unknown unknown". They shorten to phalksar and phalir respectively.

These two words are borrowed from the Achel pralksarenphuphzin and pralirenphuphzin, which translate respectively to "outer-layer ignorance" and "inner-layer ignorance".

Nice!

elemtilas wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021 23:25

prettydragoon wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021 21:54 Added the word for lesbian to my Rireinutire dictionary.

ropepurepiyarupapiñi /ˈɹopepuˌɹepijɑˌɹupɑpiŋi/ n. R lesbian

It's not a word that gets much use, but the Rireinukave have had their horizons broadened quite a bit after coming in contact with galactics.

Curious: what does it signify? It looks like it's made up of three words, is that right?

It is indeed a compound, formed on the basis of what seemed the most salient quality of the galactic concept 'lesbian'.
ropepu adj. male
repiya n. R lover, girlfriend
rupa- vt. reject
-piñi aff. (agentive)
That is, 'person who rejects male lovers'. The whole concept of male sapients, much less lovers, is literally alien to the Rireinukave.

prettydragoon wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021 22:04

elemtilas wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021 23:25 Curious: what does it signify? It looks like it's made up of three words, is that right?

It is indeed a compound, formed on the basis of what seemed the most salient quality of the galactic concept 'lesbian'.
ropepu adj. male
repiya n. R lover, girlfriend
rupa- vt. reject
-piñi aff. (agentive)
That is, 'person who rejects male lovers'. The whole concept of male sapients, much less lovers, is literally alien to the Rireinukave.

I remember that about the Rireinukave! What's new with them, anyway?

elemtilas wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021 01:04

prettydragoon wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021 22:04

elemtilas wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021 23:25 Curious: what does it signify? It looks like it's made up of three words, is that right?

It is indeed a compound, formed on the basis of what seemed the most salient quality of the galactic concept 'lesbian'.
ropepu adj. male
repiya n. R lover, girlfriend
rupa- vt. reject
-piñi aff. (agentive)
That is, 'person who rejects male lovers'. The whole concept of male sapients, much less lovers, is literally alien to the Rireinukave.

I remember that about the Rireinukave! What's new with them, anyway?

Uu, very little I'm afraid. Rireinu is dull as ditchwater, but a great place to raise kids. Speaking of kids, I think the Rireinutire kinship chart is the most recent thing I've finished. Lately I've been concentrating on translation-spamming ConWorkShop.

prettydragoon wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021 22:14 Uu, very little I'm afraid. Rireinu is dull as ditchwater, but a great place to raise kids. Speaking of kids, I think the Rireinutire kinship chart is the most recent thing I've finished. Lately I've been concentrating on translation-spamming ConWorkShop.

hehe!

I'm hazarding the guess that your comment of three years ago, that the females are "obligate lesbians" is a bit off, if the concept is alien to them! The system makes sense for them, the males being what they are, though.

elemtilas wrote: ↑17 Jan 2021 16:20

prettydragoon wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021 22:14 Uu, very little I'm afraid. Rireinu is dull as ditchwater, but a great place to raise kids. Speaking of kids, I think the Rireinutire kinship chart is the most recent thing I've finished. Lately I've been concentrating on translation-spamming ConWorkShop.

hehe!

I'm hazarding the guess that your comment of three years ago, that the females are "obligate lesbians" is a bit off, if the concept is alien to them! The system makes sense for them, the males being what they are, though.

Seeing as how the Rireinukave are anatomically female and love and marry each other exclusively, I still stand by my comment. It's a simplified soundbite aimed for galactic sensibilities, not the Rireinukave themselves.

prettydragoon wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021 22:14 Uu, very little I'm afraid. Rireinu is dull as ditchwater, but a great place to raise kids. Speaking of kids, I think the Rireinutire kinship chart is the most recent thing I've finished. Lately I've been concentrating on translation-spamming ConWorkShop.

As you might expect I’m fascinated with that kinship chart!

Yesterday I got really energized and added over 100 new words to my Kankonian dictionary! Many of them were synonyms for tomfoolery/monkeyshine or purler/pip, but there are also many things I newly have a way to say in Kankonian. A sampling:

fokatshia: focaccia (Terran borrowing)
miso: miso (Terran borrowing)
bungswesgush: to trust the police; trust in the police (bung, truncheon + swesgush, to suckle)
bungswesgublatz: copaganda (blend of bungswesgush and geblatz, propaganda)
dwende: duende (Terran borrowing)
tefreovi: coyotelike; gnomic (cryptic yet wise) (tefreov, coyote + -i, adjective-forming suffix)
dibouk: dybbuk (Terran borrowing)
minotor: minotaur (Terran borrowing)
mantikor: manticore (Terran borrowing)
hargwiri: satyr, faun (harg, goat + wiri, man)
sipigo: binnacle (on ship)
bahektokt: binnacle (on car or motorcycle) (blend of bahekta, dashboard and hatokt, compartment)
zannokar: ten-speed (zan, ten + nokos, gear + -ar, suffix to indicate a way, so: "ten-gearer")
shurmking: to ride pillion ((o)shurm, to hug + (dai)king, motorcycle)
ledolzhioshuar or zhiledolshuar: mature minor doctrine (ledol, minor + zhioshuar, bodily autonomy; the second term is a variation of zhioshuar (zhi-, reflexive prefix + o, one, so zhio = oneself + shuar, ownership, possession; the o for one is replaced with ledol, as the reflexive prefix can attach to nouns as well as pronouns in Kankonian))
fartz: to take it upon oneself to
peigitimoerv: sturdy, zebra-striped tapir bred for working in swamps (borrowing from Povoian)
khtzenob: corn nut
bamaland oelpathat: rocky road (lit. "bareback journey")
khabsigok: rocky road (confection)
gakakarv hel fulphas kiul: red-cockaded woodpecker (lit. "woodpecker with white cheeks")
kyudirkud: alicorn (unicorn horn)
vavisio kinveken or vavkin for short: alignment (chaotic good, etc.) (lit. "orthogonal code")
tshilin: qilin (Terran borrowing)
wegwam: water boiler, thermo pot
gilib meedeb: forehead thermometer (gilib, thermometer; me-, negative prefix + edeb, to abut, to touch)
purkherkiph: thermal vent, hydrothermal vent (made from Ciladian roots: pur, water + kher, hot + kiph, crack, fissure)
foyaseti: tax haven (from Foyaseti, a city in Eyibo, known as a tax haven)
musikis: entoproct, kamptozoan (made of Ciladian roots: musi, anus + kis, inside)
nenetzikventa: wheel wearer, cycliophore, cycliophoran (nenetz, lip + -ik, -ian + venta, animal)
pupu-iaskar: beardworm, siboglinid (pupu, worm + iaskar, beard)
riveria: bloodwork (How did I not already have this one?!) (rivas, blood + -eria, suffix to make an abstract noun out of a concrete word)
rivya: hematology (rivas, blood + -ya, suffix for a field of scientific study)
phetphi: placozoan (made of Ciladian roots: phet, flat + phi, animal)
plesket: gold leaf
plesketventa: Hoilungia (plesket + venta)
yagelshezesh: golden ticket (lucky break to wealth) (yagel, gold + shezesh, stash)
fashinshezesh: lucky break (fashin, luck + shezesh)
adhasp X: to catapult X to fame (ad-, prefix for for/to + hasp, famous)
adhaspar: big break (adhasp + -ar)
yagelkhuzmef: to discover (a talented person); discovery (yagel + khuzmef, to sift)
rivi: alive (vibrant) (rivas + -i)
enles zhoforar: screen time (amount of time a person appears on TV/in a movie) (lit. "visual time")
adthoart X: to throw X the scraps (ad- + thoart, scrap (of food))
yadwal: plastic film (over a TV dinner)
yadwalzavfash: filmstabber (yadwal + zav, to stab + -fash, agent noun suffix)
sowandfash: circumnavigator (sowand, to circumnavigate + -fash)
gezenuvfash: replacer (conlanger type) (gezenuv, to replace + -fash)
gherinkoruk: contemplation of suicide, suicidal ideation (gherin, suicide + koruk, to touch)
bukmubirre: gravitic field (bukmub, gravity + irre, field, as in magnetic field)
ksozipron: skutterudite (borrowed from one of the languages of Nexon or Pluos)
tziyimyazisi: thermoelectric (tziyim, hot + yazisi, electric)
pivabein: cuckboi (piva, girl + bein, boy)
niskanauga: loblolly pine
Sandieigo: San Diego (Terran borrowing)
davrud: to take responsibility for, to own (one's statement)

The names of the nine alignments:

shyulekham: lawful good
shyuldegam: lawful neutral
shyulnasem: lawful evil
degamekham: neutral good
degamdegam: true neutral
degamnasem: neutral evil
sekekham: chaotic good
sekdegam: chaotic neutral
seknasem: chaotic evil

They are made of the following Ciladian roots:

shyul: to obey
degam: neutral (lit. "fence-ian")
sek: to rebel; to sparkle, to scintillate, to coruscate
ekham: good (ethically)
nasem: evil

And finally, an idiom:

Isim is theshas yowas na kereras dyu woving.: The phone is ringing off the hook today. (lit. "Today I hear echoes of the phone's rings.")

After eating a meal with the best chicken enchilada I had ever had a few minutes ago, I coined a new Kankonian lexeme: eksakraka yagel, which means "one food that is so delicious it makes all the other foods at a meal taste bland". It translates literally to "golden oyster".

I coined a new word in Kobardon: pabódaia happening, feast, party, celebration, festivity which is an augmentative noun derived from pabóia event, incident, occurence which is itself an action nominalization derived from the verb apó I happen. And the verb is from the abstract root pói which roughly relates to things happening or the present.

Creyeditor wrote: ↑22 Jan 2021 23:57 I coined a new word in Kobardon: pabódaia happening, feast, party, celebration, festivity which is an augmentative noun derived from pabóia event, incident, occurence which is itself an action nominalization derived from the verb apó I happen. And the verb is from the abstract root pói which roughly relates to things happening or the present.

Hopefully I'll eat an eksakraka yagel at your pabódaia!

I got my CT grammar past forty pages.

Linguifex wrote: ↑01 Feb 2021 05:40 I got my CT grammar past forty pages.

::High-five::

We have a Grammar Milestones thread for you to post in.

I worked out all twenty of the male-EGO-to-male-ALTER kinterms in the classificatory kinterm systems of the Humans and Dwarves of Ataivsh!

And other stuff.

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