What did you accomplish today? [2011–2019]

[qwed117]

I made a very very impressive sentence in Learran, based on a translation in the Discord server with a Latin gloss

Secreţi me ën infărmatu por mulţe ore. Ew (si) vaţen deja destrăcarmă, fjors fïrvie
sēcrētī mē habent īnfirmātum pro multās hōrās. Et-huc1 sic ???2-quene dēbeat destruicāre3-mihi forsit fieri-volea4
[seˈkre.t͡si me ɨn infərˈmatu poːr ˈmul.t͡se ˈo.re ew (si) ˈva.t͡sen ˈde.jə des.trəˈcaːr.mə fjors fɨrˈvi.e]


1 huc, or possibly hoc, is scatter variously throughout Learran, in a quite erratic manner. This is one of those places. Et-huc is usually an emphatic 'and' and typically separate clauses, not phrases, which et usually does alone
2 unknown origin - (well, I know the origin, you don't)
3 variant of destrucāre (Romanian does this for adstruo > astruicare > astruca)
4 used to form a conditional tense

[Ahzoh]

I decided to remove the Emphatic series from Vrkhazhian since I no longer think they fit with the character of Vrkhazhian.

[Keenir]

I made a chart showing - in order - the Korean script & the IPA for each sign, then the IPA for Italian, then the IPA for Latin American & European Spanish.

I'm not 100% sure why I did all that; I think my original idea was to see what patterns I could observe & then use those patterns to expand the Hangeul(sp) writing system to cover Italian and Spanish as well.

[qwed117]

I started looking at some Learran words, and I decided that we need more cedilles. There's now 5 different "cedillated" letters. <ç ģ ş ţ z̧>. The purpose is not to represent new sounds, but to reduce the ugliness of certain letters, where etymologically the word looks weird. Like ţoarţe > çoarţe from CŌRTEM

[Corphishy]

I just finished writing nearly 4000 words about my most recent foray into a historical reconstruction of Vuase, so-called Project Garnet. It took me like 3 days and I'm shilling it out because I worked really hard on it and I would like to hear feedback.

[Ahzoh]

I have only one punctuation and it is the period, indicated by four lines in a plus shape:
https://i.imgur.com/jWmlr1b.png

[zyma]

Secreţi me ën infărmatu por mulţe ore. Ew (si) vaţen deja destrăcarmă, fjors fïrvie
sēcrētī mē habent īnfirmātum pro multās hōrās. Et-huc1 sic ???2-quene dēbeat destruicāre3-mihi forsit fieri-volea4
[seˈkre.t͡si me ɨn infərˈmatu poːr ˈmul.t͡se ˈo.re ew (si) ˈva.t͡sen ˈde.jə des.trəˈcaːr.mə fjors fɨrˈvi.e]

Looks good to me.

2 unknown origin - (well, I know the origin, you don't)

Might I ask what you mean by this?

[qwed117]

Secreţi me ën infărmatu por mulţe ore. Ew (si) vaţen deja destrăcarmă, fjors fïrvie
sēcrētī mē habent īnfirmātum pro multās hōrās. Et-huc1 sic ???2-quene dēbeat destruicāre3-mihi forsit fieri-volea4
[seˈkre.t͡si me ɨn infərˈmatu poːr ˈmul.t͡se ˈo.re ew (si) ˈva.t͡sen ˈde.jə des.trəˈcaːr.mə fjors fɨrˈvi.e]

Looks good to me.

Thanks shimo!

2 unknown origin - (well, I know the origin, you don't)

Might I ask what you mean by this?

A related word has an unknown etymology in Romanian, and obviously that presents problems. So I decided on an etymology, but obviously, if I revealed the etymology I had chosen, the etymology wouldn't be unknown anymore?

[Ahzoh]

Vrkhazhian now has some new morphology:

Voices:
ṣarah (Base)
ṣarah-wəš (Instrumental, Causative)
ṣarah-ku (Adpositional, Benefactive, Dative)
ṣarah-diñ (Adjutative)

Aspects:
ʾan-ṣarah (Inchoative)

Code: Select all

Act.Sg / Act.Pl      | Pass.Sg / Pass.Pl 
nu-ṣrah / nu-ṣarh-əm | ni-ṣrəh / ni-ṣərh-əm
ṣarah / ṣarh-əm      | ṣarəh / ṣərh-əm
ṣaruh / ṣurh-əm      | ṣarih / ṣirh-əm

Code: Select all

n-an-ṣarah / n-an-ṣarh-əm | n-an-ṣarəh / n-an-ṣərh-əm
ʾan-ṣarah / ʾan-ṣarh-əm   | ʾan-ṣarəh / ʾan-ṣərh-əm
ʾan-ṣaruh / ʾan-ṣurh-əm   | ʾan-ṣarih / ʾan-ṣirh-əm

Code: Select all

nu-ṣrah-wəš / nu-ṣarh-a-wəš-əm | ni-ṣrəh-wəš / ni-ṣərh-a-wəš-əm
ṣarah-wəš / ṣarh-a-wəš-əm      | ṣarəh-wəš / ṣərh-a-wəš-əm
ṣaruh-wəš / ṣurh-a-wəš-əm      | ṣarih-wəš / ṣirh-a-wəš-əm

Code: Select all

nu-ṣrah-ku / nu-ṣarh-a-ku-m | ni-ṣrəh-ku / ni-ṣərh-a-ku-m
ṣarah-ku / ṣarh-a-ku-m      | ṣarəh-ku / ṣərh-a-ku-m
ṣaruh-ku / ṣurh-a-ku-m      | ṣarih-ku / ṣirh-a-ku-m

Code: Select all

nu-ṣrah-diñ / nu-ṣarh-a-diñ-əm | ni-ṣrəh-diñ / ni-ṣərh-a-diñ-əm
ṣarah-diñ / ṣarh-a-diñ-əm      | ṣarəh-diñ / ṣərh-a-diñ-əm
ṣaruh-diñ / ṣurh-a-diñ-əm      | ṣarih-diñ / ṣirh-a-diñ-əm

[Frislander]

Well I've finally got round to redoing Proto-Muyan, I was really unhappy with the previous version and now I've decided I'm stripping down the verbal morphology and doing Papuan-style light verb constructions, which has been on my bucket list of things to use for ages.

[qwed117]

Vrkhazhian now has some new morphology:

Voices:
ṣarah (Base)
ṣarah-wəš (Instrumental, Causative)
ṣarah-ku (Adpositional, Benefactive, Dative)
ṣarah-diñ (Adjutative)

Aspects:
ʾan-ṣarah (Inchoative)

Code: Select all

Act.Sg / Act.Pl      | Pass.Sg / Pass.Pl 
nu-ṣrah / nu-ṣarh-əm | ni-ṣrəh / ni-ṣərh-əm
ṣarah / ṣarh-əm      | ṣarəh / ṣərh-əm
ṣaruh / ṣurh-əm      | ṣarih / ṣirh-əm

Code: Select all

n-an-ṣarah / n-an-ṣarh-əm | n-an-ṣarəh / n-an-ṣərh-əm
ʾan-ṣarah / ʾan-ṣarh-əm   | ʾan-ṣarəh / ʾan-ṣərh-əm
ʾan-ṣaruh / ʾan-ṣurh-əm   | ʾan-ṣarih / ʾan-ṣirh-əm

Code: Select all

nu-ṣrah-wəš / nu-ṣarh-a-wəš-əm | ni-ṣrəh-wəš / ni-ṣərh-a-wəš-əm
ṣarah-wəš / ṣarh-a-wəš-əm      | ṣarəh-wəš / ṣərh-a-wəš-əm
ṣaruh-wəš / ṣurh-a-wəš-əm      | ṣarih-wəš / ṣirh-a-wəš-əm

Code: Select all

nu-ṣrah-ku / nu-ṣarh-a-ku-m | ni-ṣrəh-ku / ni-ṣərh-a-ku-m
ṣarah-ku / ṣarh-a-ku-m      | ṣarəh-ku / ṣərh-a-ku-m
ṣaruh-ku / ṣurh-a-ku-m      | ṣarih-ku / ṣirh-a-ku-m

Code: Select all

nu-ṣrah-diñ / nu-ṣarh-a-diñ-əm | ni-ṣrəh-diñ / ni-ṣərh-a-diñ-əm
ṣarah-diñ / ṣarh-a-diñ-əm      | ṣarəh-diñ / ṣərh-a-diñ-əm
ṣaruh-diñ / ṣurh-a-diñ-əm      | ṣarih-diñ / ṣirh-a-diñ-əm

Looks stunning

I just got to 100 words in SEALang. #100 is la, DEFINITE DETERMINER.

[Ahzoh]

Translations, in my font:
https://conworkshop.com/view_article.ph ... 22efffc008

[qwed117]

wow that's quite pretty Ahzoh.

[Lambuzhao]

Too busy from the start of the Academic year to be too involved in any particular thing to "deep end" depth.

But I am anxiously waiting to see full episodes of "Dark Crystal: Age of Resistence". The original movie, upon which "Age of Resistence" is based, was one of the major impulses that got me into conworlding/conlanging in the first place.

But as for accomplishments, I was able to successfully trawl the Cyberspaces for a PDF of the novelization for the original movie.
I also found a website (¿twitter?) which has the main pieces of original Skekses dialogue in «Skeksish» or «Skexish» (had no idea that the language had its own name !).

Looking at the mysterious, indecipherable words from , oh, 1982, with eyes of decades of eperience in Classical Greek & other natlangs, the actual meanings of some phrases that the Lords of the Crystal and (Aughra as well) just leapt off the screen. Wow! Whoa!

My only wish, of course, was that they actually included some of these Skexish phrases in a post-Tolkien, post-Klingon, post-GOT much more conlang receptive world.

I will probably make a post of them WITH their (mostly Greek) origins at some point before the next Trine.

Hakskeekah "Let the stone decide" probably has nothing to do with any stone, but perhaps /skeekah/ refers to 'skeksis' (SG or PL)
Krakweekeh "3SG must die" ????
Hokvatta skaun Kherron ??? sounds suspiciously Baltic
Kekkon, Kekkon, Yazakaide, Akura, Kasdaw ???? Looks, sounds and feels mostly Japonic, except for 'kasdo' at the end (¿Balto-Slavic?)

Until then, Go serenely, wherever ye go!


P.S. :
If you have any idears for the ???? stuff, I'd be much obliged.

[Lambuzhao]

Really, really, really REALLY would love for linguist & fantasy author Alan Garner to dig up and post some/all of his original notes on the Skeksish language on the 'Net. But, of course, great age, possible copyright infringements and/or lack of perceived public interest prolly prevent him.


Oh, well.

My quest, she continues…

[Ælfwine]

I figured out a solution to my long running dilemma on how to notate schwa in crimean gothic.

Schwa will be written using the "big" yer ъ (gothic: микъл єр). This has precedent in Bulgarian and OCS.

The exception is when a /j/ precedes it, then that combination is written using the "small" yer ь. This also solves the issue of writing /jə/. Although I have a grapheme for /j/, I write every combination of /j/ with a vowel with it's own character. This solves the discrepancy I had.

[eldin raigmore]

Really, really, really REALLY would love for linguist & fantasy author Alan Garner to dig up and post some/all of his original notes on the Skeksish language on the 'Net. But, of course, great age, possible copyright infringements and/or lack of perceived public interest prolly prevent him.


Oh, well.

My quest, she continues…

Write him some fanmail! Helen Charteris was pleased when I wrote her!

[Khemehekis]

Today I coined some new Kankonian words for kinds of sweets.

phseu: marshmallow crème, marshmallow fluff
bengizhphseuar: fluffernutter (bengizh is butter of a peanut/almond/etc. in Kankonian)
dzhyudzhyu: upside-down cake
nikushar: truffle bar (any candy bar such as an U-No)
tzketa: toffee bar (any candy bar such as a Skor)
sphuta: feces pile
sphuta na tzumukh: chocolate kiss (lit. "chocolate feces pile")
khikhef: wafer bar confection (any candy bar such as a Kit-kat)
kharmeis: coconut bar (any candy bar such as a Butterfinger or Zagnut)

[Dormouse559]

I learned recently about the word "handsel" and how one of its meanings is "first purchase/sale of the day", so I decided to get Silvish a word for that. That word is inchéta [ʔɛ̃ˈʃe.tə], a nominalization from Latin incepto.

[Ælfwine]

I learned recently about the word "handsel" and how one of its meanings is "first purchase/sale of the day", so I decided to get Silvish a word for that. That word is inchéta [ʔɛ̃ˈʃe.tə], a nominalization from Latin incepto.

Very nice Dormouse! I like the look of inchéta a lot.

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I've been tinkering with a descendant of Old Norse in North America called Vinlandic for a while now, and I have gotten the phonemic inventory via sound changes to what I wanted:

/m n/ <m n>
/p t tʃ k/ <p t č k>
/s ʃ h/ <s š h>
/r l/ <r l>
/j w/ <y w>

/i iː ĩ ĩː/ <i ī į į̄>
/e eː ẽ ẽː ə* əː ə̃ ə̃ː o oː õ õː/ <e ē ę ę̄ ø ø̄ ø̨ ø̨̄ o ō ǫ ǭ>
/a aː ã ãː/ <a ā ą ą̄>

*schwa is in fact a rounded mid vowel: [ɵ̞], but nobody is going to transcribe it like that

In comparison, this is Old Norse:

/m n (ŋ)/
/pʰ b tʰ d kʰ g/
/f (v) θ (ð) s (ɣ) h/
/r l/
/j w/

/i iː ĩ ĩː y yː ỹ ỹː u uː ũ ũː/
/e eː ẽ ẽ ø øː ø̃ ø̃ː o oː õ õː/
/ɛ ɛː ɛ̃ ɛ̃ː a aː ã ãː ɔ ɔː ɔ̃ ɔ̃ː/

How did I get here you ask? The biggest sound changes below:

/θ/ merges with its plosive equivalent. (everywhere except Iceland)
/f/ debuccalizes to /h/ (Nowhere in Norse, but I reasoned an Innu or Basque substrate could have caused this, as those languages lacked /f/)
Former nasal vowels are lost (everywhere except central Sweden)
Voiced fricatives become glides. (Faroese)
Voiced plosives are devoiced. (Icelandic, Faroese)
Palatalization of /k/ and /sk/ to /tʃ/ and /ʃ/ before front vowels and with /j/. (Faroese, Norn)
Itacism of front rounded vowels. (Icelandic)
Diphthongization of all long vowels. (Many Norse dialects)
Aspiration is lost.
/u/ lowers while /o/ and /ɔ/ become central. (Latter has analogues in most dialects, i.e. ɔ,o > ɞ in central Sweden.)
/r/, /l/ and /n/ are deleted in syllable coda. The former causes the preceding vowel to lengthen and the latter causes nasalization. (Various continental dialects have some form of this.)

The fact that it looks Algonquin is a feature, not a bug. :)