False cognates

[All4Ɇn]

I seriously thought (still think?) “lazuli” had etymology in common with “azure”?

Those two have the same origin etymologically. Azure comes from French which dropped the initial /l/, perceiving it to be the definite article.

[WeepingElf]

吠瑠璃 fèi liú lí "lapis lazuli" & 瑠璃 ruri "lapis lazuli"
(lapis) lazuli
liú lí and ruri are both remarkably similar sounding to lazuli but are etymologically unrelated. The Chinese and Japanese word comes from Sanskrit while the English one comes from Persian.

But Sanskrit and Persian are related languages - not knowing the actual words, are they perhaps cognate?

[Pabappa]

I doubt it. For one thing the final -i in the English is clearly from Latin, not the original Persian, so that brings the intersection down to just two phonemes, /ul/, unless we count /z ~ l/ as an intersection. The etymology given on Wiktionary eliminates even this correspondence, and although with words like this ... Wanderworts i guess .... I always allow for the possibility that we just don't know for sure, I dont think it's likely.

[Shemtov]

I doubt it. For one thing the final -i in the English is clearly from Latin, not the original Persian, so that brings the intersection down to just two phonemes, /ul/, unless we count /z ~ l/ as an intersection. The etymology given on Wiktionary eliminates even this correspondence, and although with words like this ... Wanderworts i guess .... I always allow for the possibility that we just don't know for sure, I dont think it's likely.

Checking on it, the Sanskrit originally meant "Beryl", and is of "unknown origin" itself, while the Persian is tracible to an established PIE root.

[WeepingElf]

I see.

[All4Ɇn]

metsz "cut"
Metzger "butcher"

[Khemehekis]

Here's a pair of false cognates between two conlangs by the same person, but it's complete coincidence!

I just noticed these words borrowed from roots (the way we borrow from Latin and Greek or Japanese borrows from Chinese) in some other language in my Kankonian dictionary spreadsheet file:

protium zipto
deuterium dukhto
tritium klankhto

So apparently some other language in the Lehola Galaxy made zip- its root for one, dukh- is root for two, and klankh- its root for three.

These were words between #33,630 and #33,640, so they would have been created in 2012.

And then, as you can see, Nachtuil invented the word zip for "one" when reverse-diachronizing my Txabao from his Kojikeng for me!:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7005&p=295167&hilit ... ao#p295167

[k1234567890y]

Japanese -な (an adjectival ending) v.s. Czech/Slovak(and other cognates in other Slavic languages) -ná (feminine form of -ný, an adjectival ending)

[k1234567890y]

Japanese 牛 /ɯ̟ᵝɕi/ "cattle" v.s. Old Norse uxi "ox"

[Khemehekis]

לב lev (heart) and love

Some crackpot sites say the Hebrew "lev" is the etymon of the English "love". The same kind of sites that say "nature" comes from the Egyptian goddess Neter.

[All4Ɇn]

thou (formerly þou)
you

Given that thou was formerly written as þou and thus could also look like you (like þe/ye) it's easy to think that you was originally just a spelling pronunciation of þou when þ resembled y.

[k1234567890y]

Japanese benjo (便所) “toilet” v.s. Spanish baño “toilet”

[Xonen]

thou (formerly þou)
you

Given that thou was formerly written as þou and thus could also look like you (like þe/ye) it's easy to think that you was originally just a spelling pronunciation of þou when þ resembled y.

Better yet, it appears that the spelling <you> could in fact be used for either in Middle English.