Languages with labialized and palatalized consonants
Languages with labialized and palatalized consonants
Are there any languages with both labialized and palatalized consonants? It feels like languages tend to have one or the other but I am hoping there are a few oddballs out there that mix them up. I am really interested in seeing what their phonologies might be like. I am especially interested in consonant vowel interaction. Maybe this is actually quite common, I don't know.
I understand there is some dispute over say, Russian, in that some say the nonpalatalized consonants are labialized but I am looking for something unambiguous. Say a language with /k/ /kʲ/ and /kʷ/
I understand there is some dispute over say, Russian, in that some say the nonpalatalized consonants are labialized but I am looking for something unambiguous. Say a language with /k/ /kʲ/ and /kʷ/
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Re: Languages with labialized and palatalized consonants
Isn't Proto-Indo-European also reconstructed to have had both palatalized and labialized velar stops?
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That is interesting! Thanks. I'll have to read the PIE phonology page on wikipedia!GrandPiano wrote:Isn't Proto-Indo-European also reconstructed to have had both palatalized and labialized velar stops?
I have only had limited luck with searching for multiple segments at once in phoible. I am not sure if it is possible. I did have some luck with SAPhon though and found a paper on a nice little language with all three /k/ /kʲ/ and /kʷ/.
http://linguistics.berkeley.edu/~saphon ... chiMP.html
http://commons.emich.edu/cgi/viewconten ... ext=theses
Re: Languages with labialized and palatalized consonants
Marshallese is a fairly well-known example I think since it does have extensive vowel allophony as a result. Only n, r, l, and the (pretty theoretically abstract) glides have a three-way contrast, though; for the plosives, there's palatalized /pʲ tʲ/ but no /kʲ/, and labialized /kʷ/ but no /pʷ tʷ/.
Re: Languages with labialized and palatalized consonants
Sumelic,
Thanks for that link. Pretty interesting to see!
As an aside, I am not nearly bold enough with where I leave gaps in my own phonologies!
Thanks for that link. Pretty interesting to see!
As an aside, I am not nearly bold enough with where I leave gaps in my own phonologies!
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I don't think it counts, but I have Plain-Labial contrast rather than Voiceless-Voiced or Tenuis-Aspirated contrast in my personal ConLang.
Re: Languages with labialized and palatalized consonants
Gurage languages like Chaha might be of interest. The only issue would be that the palatalized consonants are realized as postalveolar.
Re: Languages with labialized and palatalized consonants
The palatals may originally have been plain velars.GrandPiano wrote:Isn't Proto-Indo-European also reconstructed to have had both palatalized and labialized velar stops?