I was hit

Iyionaku · Post by **Iyionaku** » 19 Jun 2014 10:41

Yélian:

Re yilaco aélico. Aélico rat yilacet.
Re yi-lac-o aélico. Aélico rat yi-lac-et
I-SUB PST-hit-PAS-1-PS-SG car. Car I-OBJ PST-hit-ACT-3-PS-SG.
I was hit by a car. A car hit me.

Click · Post by **Click** » 30 Aug 2014 13:55

Kaıpó

Kaıpó does not have a morphological passive, and a clause is passivised by simply omitting the agent. The agent can be reintroduced through a quite roundabout strategy where the patient heads a relative clause which includes the agent and what happened to the very patient.

To ka ro tírı.
SP car PST hit
I was hit by a car. (literally ‘I, who a car hit.’)

For comparison, ‘I was hit’ would be expressed as ‘Ro tírı to’.

Ka ro tírı to.
car PST hit SP
A car hit me.

Ka is borrowed from English and SP stands for the speaker pronoun.

Täzari · Post by **Täzari** » 01 Sep 2014 15:28

Sono stato investito ("investita" if the subject is feminine) da una macchina - Una macchina mi ha investito/a

Kuruma orowa a=en=kik - Kuruma en=kik (I'm not sure that the verb kik is the rightest one to be used here, I'll probably have to correct it. Plus I think that the second sentence sounds more natural.)

(Lözusöteli)
Ælzaþujajon par üssi - Üśi ælzaþepa [this if the results, like my being hurt or else are still visible]
Ælzaþüjajata par üssi - Üśi ælzaþeepa [this if the results are no longer visible]

Lao Kou · Post by **Lao Kou** » 05 Sep 2014 10:19

clawgrip wrote:
私は車に打たれた。車は私を打った。Watashi wa kuruma ni utareta. Kuruma wa watashi wo utta.
This has been on here for some time, but it's wrong. You can't use 打つ utsu for being hit by a car. It sounds like the car punched you or something. The set phrase is 車にひかれる kuruma ni hikareru (be hit/run over by a car).

It should be:
車にひかれた。
Kuruma ni hikareta.

OMG, the kanji for this is amazing! 轢かれる hikareru (yes, I know no one would recognize it; indulge me). I also stumbled upon はねられる hanerareru in the dictionary, which has the slightly less-than-thrilling, old-news kanji 撥ねられる (you can, apparently, also render it 刎ねられる, which is neat-a-roono, but I think I'd limit that to its "being beheaded" sense). So:

車にはねられた。

Kuruma ni hanerareta.

In other news:

Géarthnuns:

Sí lét se töthsen mergauz.
1SG-NOM AUX.PAST.PASS INDEF car-INSTR hit
I was hit by a car.

Se töths lé sít mergauz.
INDEF car-NOM AUX.PAST 1SG-ACC hit
A car hit me.

Chagen · Post by **Chagen** » 10 Sep 2014 22:25

Pazmat:

Iśtōmi toraubivyī. Iśtō jhāṣ tārovyū.
car-INDEF.SG-INSTR hit-PASS-PERF-1S car-INDEF.SG.NOM 1S.ACC hit-PERF-3S

Nortaneous · Post by **Nortaneous** » 25 Sep 2014 01:06

Insular Kett:
Nian kar xaleurira. Karan ne xaleurit.
[ɲæ̃ kar hɐˈɫuʑʑɐ. ˈkaɾɐn nɪ hɐˈɫuɕt.]
1S.TOP car PST-hit-PASS.PFV | car=TOP 1S PST-hit-ACT.PFV

You can also say:
Nian xaleurira.
1S=TOP PST-hit-PASS.PFV
I was hit.

Or:
Karan xaleurit.
car=TOP PST-hit-ACT.PFV
A car hit something/someone.

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Kannow adds agents back to passive sentences with incorporation:
Ptʼakʼaŗeckèłsʼ.
[ɸtʼɑkʼɑre̝ç̟ʷkʷeɬtsʼ]
ptʼa-kʼaŗ-ec-kèł-sʼ
INSTR-car-SENS.NRPST.MID-hit-1S.P.SG
I was hit by a car.

But:
Erkèłsʼest kʼaŗs.
[ɛʂʷkʷeɬtsʼest kʼɑrts]
er-kèł-sʼ-st kʼaŗ-s
SENS.NRPST-hit-C1.P.SG-C7.A.SG car-INDEF.SG

You can also say "I was hit", in two different ways, eckèłsʼ or eckèłow, but the second implies volition.

Prinsessa · Post by **Prinsessa** » 05 Jan 2015 14:23

This would probably be expressed using an instrumental applicative in my current iteration of Vanga. A car cannot by itself decide to hit you.

[car]-INST-hit-1-PASS or something. Not sure what word I would actually use, but probably not hit, or at least the root translating into hit that comes into my mind right now. That word is probably restricted to fists or tools. I'll have to find another one.

Considering the nature of the language, tho, I can imagine some variation on drive being used and the word for car being omitted and understood, just like in the Swedish example given earlier in this thread.

Tuslaven Kukristo · Post by **Tuslaven Kukristo** » 05 Jan 2015 23:25

Teeverb Kuluxem
Tuyuhn, infadia tuconch echhietma. (I, who the car hit)
Tuchonch echhietma tuyuhn. (The car hit me)

loftyD · Post by **loftyD** » 06 Jan 2015 00:11

(Sakha) Мин массынанан үттүм
1SG-PASS-strike car-INSTRUMENTAL

/min mas.sɯnan yt.tym/

Nortaneous · Post by **Nortaneous** » 18 Jan 2015 21:59

Gjerdou Arve:
En tegnasger stärg dan gras tegnasger
1S\PST.PFV.PASS hit APPL boat PST.PFV.PASS
/reŋʲkʲeː hʲeːɢ tɑn ɢɑs kʲeː/
[reŋʲˈgʲeː ˈhʲeːʀ ɢɴ̩ ˈɢɑsʲ kʲ]

Kes tegna stärg sä.
3S\PST.PFV hit 1S.OBL
/hʲeŋ hʲeːɢ sæ/
[hʲeŋʲ‿eːʀ sæ]

Raston Arve:
Stärg dan gras en tegnasger.
hit APPL boat 1S\PST.PFV.PASS
/çeə̯ʀ tɐn tʂaə̯s r̥ɛɲcɪr/
[ˈçeə̯ʀ ðɐ̃ ˈtʂaə̯sɐ ˈr̥ɛɲɟɪ]

Kes tegna stärg en.
3S\PST.PFV hit 1S
/çɛŋɐ çeə̯ʀ ɪn/
[ˈçɛŋɐ ˈçeə̯ʀ (ɪj)ĩ]

Iyionaku · Post by **Iyionaku** » 07 May 2016 15:18

Caelian

Rar kalrungej cosin situkim. Kalrej rang sitükaim.
[raɾ kʰalrʊˈŋɛj ʝɔˈʒin ʒitʰʊˈkʰɪm. kʰalˈrɛj raŋ ʒitʰʏˈkʰaɪ̯m]
1SG.NOM car.ACC PAS PST-hit.1SG>3SG || car.NOM 1SG.ACC PST-hit.3SG>1SG

I was hit by a car. A car hit me.

Anto

Rum da fikafi ton.
[ɹʊm taː ˈfikʰafi tʰɔn]
car 1SG hit-PST 3.ANIM

I was hit by a car. (There is no passive voice in Anto.)

Bath'aso

Khek khats batezh krħedstshekizt. Khek khats krħedstshekez bat. Khek khats krħedstshek esht batizh.
[kʰɛk kʰat͡s ˈbatɛʐ kʁ̩ʕɛdstʂɛkɪzt. kʰɛk kʰat͡s kʁ̩ʕɛdstʂɛkɛz bat. kʰɛk kʰats kʁ̩ʕɛdstʂɛk ɛʂt ˈbatɪʐ]
PERF hit 1SG.IND car.INST || PERF hit car.ERG 1SG.ABS || PERF hit car.ABS ANTPAS 1SG.INTR

I was hit by a car. A car hit me. A car hit me.

Batħaso has four voices: active (agens in ergative case; patiens in absolutive case), antipassive (agens in absolutive case; patiens missing or in indirective case) and passive (patiens in indirective case; agens missing or in instrumental case). (The fourth is reciprocal with both objects in indirective case).

Paatherye

ओकु सेमुं त्रायाथु क्राति पै क्रुतेंता. सें त्रायाथ क्रुतुण ना.
Ēku semum trāyāthu krāti pay krutemtā. Sem trāyātha krutun nā.
[ˈeːku ˈsemum traːˈjaːtʰu ˈkraːti paɪ̯ kruˈtemtaː. sem traːˈjaːtʰa ˈkrutun naː] (F)
[ˈoːk ˈsɛmʊm traːˈjaːtʰu ˈkraːt paɪ̯ krʊˈtɛmt. səm traːˈjaːtʰ ˈkrʊtʊn naː] (M)
1SG.NOM INDEF.MASC.DAT car.DAT by be.1SG hit.GEDV || INDEF.MASC.NOM car.NOM hit.IMPF.3SG.MASC 1SG.ACC

I was hit by a car. A car hit me.

GrandPiano · Post by **GrandPiano** » 07 May 2016 19:28

Spanish

Spanish does it the same way as English:

Fui atropellado por un coche.
[fwi atɾopeˈjað̞o poɾ uŋ ˈkot͡ʃe]
fui atropell-ad-o-Ø por un-Ø coche-Ø
COP.1SG.PRET.IND run.over-PP-M-SG by ART.INDF-M.SG car-SG
I was hit by a car.

(That's if the speaker is male; if the speaker is female, it would be "atropellada", with the feminine ending -a.)

Un coche me atropelló.
[uŋ ˈkot͡ʃe me atɾopeˈjo]
un-Ø coche-Ø me atropell-ó
ART.INDF-M.SG car-SG 1SG.OBJ run.over-3SG.PRET.IND
A car hit me.

Lao Kou · Post by **Lao Kou** » 08 May 2016 06:22

My transfixion by the kanji 轢 1¾ years ago (seen above) was well before Japoné語 was summoned into existence. At long last, a chance to use it. O frabjous day!

Japoné語

私 oué, j'ga 轢caréta par un 車 ni.
Ouétachi oué, j'ga hicaréta par un courouma ni.
[weˈtæʃi we ʒgɔ ɪˈkaʁetɔ pɑ̯ɒʁ ɚ̃ ˈkuʁʊmɔ ni]
1SG TOP, 1SG SUBJ be.hit-PAST by INDEF.m car.m INSTR
I was hit by a car.

Un 車 oué, il ga m'au 轢lleta.
Un courouma oué, il ga m'au hilleta.
[ɚ̃ ˈkuʁʊmɔ we i gɔ mo ˈijtɔ]
INDEF.m car.m TOP, 3SG.m SUBJ 1SG OBJ hit-PAST
A car hit me.

Post by **Xing** » 04 Jun 2016 22:42

Mīrna

Nāy puniyakka vu tākkīl.
nāy puni-yakka vu tākkīl
1s hit-PASS.PTCPL by car
[naːʝ pʊnɐtiːrɐkːɔ vʊ taːkːiːl]
I was hit by a car.

Tākkīl puniyakka nāy.
tākkīl puni-yakka nāy
car hit-PASS-PTCPL 1s
[taːkːiːl pʊnɪʝakːɔ naːʝ]
A car hit me.

G64 · Post by **G64** » 28 Jun 2016 22:40

Ā currō feriēbar. Currus mē feriēbat.

I cri ;-;

A curro latus sum(percussus sum). Currus me tulit(percussit).
I don't understand the choice of fero, but I used it too to make the difference evident.

The imperfectum here would mean something like "I was being hit by a car", which is supposedly not the meaning of the original sentence.

Elcuin:
ie tantand carienise. ia tanta carieni.
ie tant-a-nd car-ien-i-se ia tant-a car-ien-i
I.NOM cart-ARTIF-DAT.sg hit-PAST-1sg-PASS I.ACC cart-ARTIF[NOM.sg] hit-PAST-1sg
I was hit by a car. A car hit me.

marvelous · Post by **marvelous** » 28 Jun 2016 23:15

Ernalan (fantasy lang)

Ẓi lantḥeri nuth thatkaita. Ẓi netḥaraṭi thatkat nauth.
[zˤi lanθˤeri nuθ θatkaita]. [zˤi neθˤaratˤi θatkat nauθ].
ẓi lantḥer-i n<u>th thatk-aita. ẓi netḥar-aṭi thatk<a>t n<au>th.
PAST fall.PASV.CAUS.INTENS-1P.SVN.NPRSNT 1P<NOM.S> chariot-INS.S. PAST fall.CAUS.INTENS-3P.SVN.ETC.NPRSNT chariot<NOM.S> 1P<ACC.S>

ETC = "et cetera", one of four genders (rational beings; things that are normally worn/held; certain inanimate natural phenomena; et cetera)

SVN = singular verbal number; there was only one hitting action rather than two (dual verbal number), a few (paucal verbal number), or more (plural verbal number). Wikipedia gives the glossing abbreviation for this as MOM, but I have no idea why and I wasn't able to find out via Google..

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