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Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 05 Jun 2016 10:01
by Lao Kou
Image Japoné語

Qui ga 走rë plus 速quement que moé?
Qui ga hachirë plus hayaquement que moé?
[ki gɔ aˈʃɪi̯ʁœ̈ ply aˌjakœ̈ˈmã kœ̈ mwe]
who NOM run-PRES more quickly than I-IND
Who runs faster than me?

Qui mau dja 走rë plus 速quement que moé?
Qui mau dja hachirë plus hayaquement que moé?
[ki mo dʒɔ aˈʃɪi̯ʁœ̈ ply aˌjakœ̈ˈmã kœ̈ mwe]
nobody ADV run-PRES more quickly than I-IND
Nobody runs faster than me.

Qui ca ga 走rë plus 速quement que moé?
Qui ca ga hachirë plus hayaquement que moé?
[ki kɔ gɔ aˈʃɪi̯ʁœ̈ ply aˌjakœ̈ˈmã kœ̈ mwe]
somebody NOM run-PRES more quickly than I-IND
Somebody runs faster than me.

Cet 奴 oué il ga 走rë plus 速quement que moé?
Cet itsë oué il ga hachirë plus hayaquement que moé?
[set ˈɪtsœ̈ we i gɔ aˈʃɪi̯ʁœ̈ ply aˌjakœ̈ˈmã kœ̈ mwe]
that.m guy.m TOP 3SG.m NOM run-PRES more quickly than I-IND
That guy runs faster than me.

彼e oué à ga 走rë plus 速quement que moé?
Canaue oué à ga hachirë plus hayaquement que moé?
[ˈkano we a: gɔ aˈʃɪi̯ʁœ̈ ply aˌjakœ̈ˈmã kœ̈ mwe]
3SG.f TOP 3SG.f NOM run-PRES more quickly than I-IND
She runs faster than me.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 08 Jun 2016 22:05
by Dormouse559
lyionaku wrote: :fra: French

Personne ne court pas plus vite que moi.
[pɛʁsɔn]

Personne Quelqu'un court plus vite que moi.

Cet homme (ou "ce mec") court plus vite que moi.
Whether you use "homme" or "mec" depends on how close in register you want to get. "Mec" is more on par with "guy" in terms of formality.


Image Silvish
Chig córre plupa rativa-mint ca mè ?
[ˈkeː ˈkoː.rə ˈplo.pa raˈteː.va ˈmẽ ka ˈmɛ]
who-NOM run-PRS.IND.3SG COMP fast=ADV than 1SG.DISJ
Who runs faster than me?

Deün nê córre (pas) plupa rativa-mint ca mè.
[dəˈõː nə ˈkoː.rə (pa) ˈplo.pa raˈteː.va ˈmẽ ka ˈmɛ]
No_one NEG run-PRS.IND.3SG NEG COMP fast=ADV than 1SG.DISJ
No one runs faster than me.

Quau chave córre plupa rativa-mint ca mè.
[ˈko̯aːo̯ ˈtɕaː.və ˈkoː.rə ˈplo.pa raˈteː.va ˈmẽ ka ˈmɛ]
DET-DIST.NOM.M.SG guy-NOM.SG run-PRS.IND.3SG COMP fast=ADV than 1SG.DISJ
That guy runs faster than me.

Essa córre plupa rativa-mint ca mè.
[ˈɛ.sa ˈkoː.rə ˈplo.pa raˈteː.va ˈmẽ ka ˈmɛ]
3SG.NOM.F run-PRS.IND.3SG COMP fast=ADV than 1SG.DISJ
She runs faster than me.


Including pas in the second sentence gives it a contrastive sound, as if someone had just said "Jane runs faster than you," and the speaker was contradicting them. Pas is used in this contrastive sense when another negative adverb/pronoun (like deün) appears. In plain negative sentences, though, pas is obligatory.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 29 Jun 2016 22:55
by G64
Who runs faster than me?
Nobody runs faster than me.
Somebody runs faster than me.
That guy runs faster than me.
She runs faster than me.

:con: Elcuin:
il dam ieti natarsa aite
il dam ie-ti nat-ars-a ait-e
I_don't_know such.NOM.sg PRO.1sg.NOM-COMP fast-SUP-ADJ.NOM.sg run.PRES-3sg[ACT]
sil ieti natarsa aite
si-l ie-ti nat-ars-a ait-e
IND.PRO-nobody[NOM.sg] PRO.1sg.NOM-COMP fast-SUP-ADJ.NOM.sg run.PRES-3sg[ACT]
sint ieti natarsa aite
si-nt ie-ti nat-ars-a ait-e
IND.PRO-somebody[NOM.sg] PRO.1sg.NOM-COMP fast-SUP-ADJ.NOM.sg run.PRES-3sg[ACT]
Dam ieti natarsa aite
dam ie-ti nat-ars-a ait-e
DET.such.NOM.sg PRO.1sg.NOM-COMP fast-SUP-ADJ.NOM.sg run.PRES-3sg[ACT]
ene ieti natarsa aite
en-e ie-ti nat-ars-a ait-e
PRO.3sg-NOM.F PRO.1sg.NOM-COMP fast-SUP-ADJ.NOM.sg run.PRES-3sg[ACT]


:lat: Latin:
Quis citior (quam) me currit?
Qu-is cit-ior quam me curr-it
PRO.INT-NOM.C fast-COMP.NOM.sg than PRO.1sg-NOM/ABL run[PRES]-3sg.ACT
Nemo citior (quam) me currit.
Nemo cit-ior quam me curr-it
PRO.NEG.NOM.C fast-COMP.NOM.sg than PRO.1sg-NOM/ABL run[PRES]-3sg.ACT
Quidam ille citior (quam) me currit.
Qu-i-dam ill-e cit-ior quam me curr-it
PRO.IND-NOM.sg.M-DEM that-NOM.sg.M fast-COMP.NOM.sg than PRO.1sg-NOM/ABL run[PRES]-3sg.ACT
Ea citior (quam) me currit.
E-a cit-ior quam me curr-it
PRO.DEM-NOM.sg.F fast-COMP.NOM.sg than PRO.1sg-NOM/ABL run[PRES]-3sg.ACT

Note that "me" is NOM if quam is used, otherwise it's ABL
Also, I don't really know how to gloss the suffix "-dam", which turns quis,quid "somebody" into quidam,quaedam,quiddam "a guy". My book says it's a demonstrative suffix, but I don't really trust it [xD]

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 07 Sep 2020 23:51
by Dormouse559
Updating Image Silvish

Ki ki kour myeu vvytto ke mé ?
[kikᵊˈkuʁ mjœˈvit.tə kəˈme]
who REL-NOM run.3S COMP fast than 1S.DISJ

Who runs faster than me?

Nyon kour (pa) myeu vvytto ke mé.
[ˈɲˑɔ̃ŋ ˈkuʁ mjœˈvit.tə kəˈme]
nobody run.3S (NEG) COMP fast than 1S.DISJ

Nobody runs faster than me.

Kalk' un kour myeu vvytto ke mé.
[kɑˈkœ̃ŋ ˈkuʁ mjœˈvit.tə kəˈme]
some one run.3S COMP fast than 1S.DISJ

Somebody runs faster than me.

Ço tipo / Ço bradaço kour myeu vvytto ke mé.
[ʃəˈti.pə / ʃo.bʁaˈda.sə ˈkuʁ mjœˈvit.tə kəˈme]
DEM-M.C guy / DEM-M.C guy run.3S COMP fast than 1S.DISJ

That guy runs faster than me.

 kour myeu vvytto ke mé.
[ʔɑˈkuʁ mjœˈvit.tə kəˈme]
3S.F.NOM run.3S COMP fast than 1S.DISJ

She runs faster than me.


bradaço/bradaçe nmc/nfc - guy/gal (borrowing from various Northern Italian forms; cf. It. bardassa, Ligurian bardàscia)

The most widespread Silvish words for "guy" are tipo and bradaço. The former is used across the Silvophonie, while bradaço becomes more common as you get closer to Italy. Not sure if I want to keep chave, which you can see in my 2016 post; if I did decide to use it, its current form would be tchavo.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 08 Sep 2020 15:54
by GrandPiano
:es-pv: Basque

Nork egiten du nik baino azkar korrika?
/nork egiten du nik baɲo as̻kar korika/
[nork eɣiten du ni paɲo as̻kar korika]
nor-k egi-ten d-∅-u-∅ ni-k baino azkar korrika=∅
who-ERG do-PRESP 3.ABS.PRS-SG.ABS-AUX-3SG.ERG 1SG-ERG than fast running=ABS.INDF

Who runs faster than me?

Inork ez du nik baino azkar korrika egiten.
/iɲork es̻ du nik baɲo as̻kar korika egiten/
[iɲork es̻ tu ni paɲo as̻kar korika eɣiten]
inor-k ez d-∅-u-∅ ni-k baino azkar korrika=∅ egi-ten
anybody-ERG NEG 3.ABS.PRS-SG.ABS-AUX-3SG.ERG 1SG-ERG than fast running=ABS.INDF do-PRESP

Nobody runs faster than me.

Norbaitek egiten du nik baino azkar korrika.
/norbaitek egiten du nik baɲo as̻kar korika/
[norβaitek eɣiten du ni paɲo as̻kar korika]
norbait-ek egi-ten d-∅-u-∅ ni-k baino azkar korrika=∅
who-ERG do-PRESP 3.ABS.PRS-SG.ABS-AUX-3SG.ERG 1SG-ERG than fast running=ABS.INDF

Somebody runs faster than me.

Pertsona horrek egiten du nik baino azkar korrika.
/pert͡s̺ona orek egiten du nik baɲo as̻kar korika/
[pert͡s̺ona orek eɣiten du ni paɲo as̻kar korika]
pertsona horr=ek egi-ten d-∅-u-∅ ni-k baino azkar korrika=∅
person MED.SG=ERG do-PRESP 3.ABS.PRS-SG.ABS-AUX-3SG.ERG 1SG-ERG than fast running=ABS.INDF

That guy runs faster than me.

Hark egiten du nik baino azkar korrika.
/ark egiten du nik baɲo as̻kar korika/
[ark eɣiten du ni paɲo as̻kar korika]
har=k egi-ten d-∅-u-∅ ni-k baino azkar korrika=∅
DIST.SG=ERG do-PRESP 3.ABS.PRS-SG.ABS-AUX-3SG.ERG 1SG-ERG than fast running=ABS.INDF

He/she runs faster than me.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 15 Sep 2020 18:27
by J Reggie
Image Choroze

Who runs faster than me?
Cha get cha ngrujtśuc mjus zezeev chir gel tliima?
[ˈhɑ ɡət hɑ ˈnʀʊjt͡ʃʊk mjʊs ˈzɛze̝ə hɪr ɡɛl ˈtliəm]
3SG.REL.NOM be 3SG.REL.ABS run.3SG.PRS fast after 1SG.REL.DAT COMPARE person.M.NOM

Nobody runs faster than me.
Ra tliima mjus ngrujtśuc zezeev chir gel.
[rɑ ˈtliəm mjʊs ˈnʀʊjt͡ʃʊk ˈzɛze̝ə hɪr ɡɛl]
no person.M.NOM fast run.3SG.PRS after 1SG.REL.DAT COMPARE

Somebody runs faster than me.
Tliima mjus ngrujtśuc zezeev chir gel.
[ˈtliəm mjʊs ˈnʀʊjt͡ʃʊk ˈzɛze̝ə hɪr ɡɛl]
person.M.NOM fast run.3SG.PRS after 1SG.REL.DAT COMPARE

That guy runs faster than me.
Ğin tliima mjus ngrujtśuc zezeev chir gel.
[ɡʷɪn ˈtliəm mjʊs ˈnʀʊjt͡ʃʊk ˈzɛze̝ə hɪr ɡɛl]
that person.M.NOM fast run.3SG.PRS after 1SG.REL.DAT COMPARE

She runs faster than me.
Vgri mjus ngrujtśuc zezeev chir gel.
[ˈvʀɪ mjʊs ˈnʀʊjt͡ʃʊk ˈzɛze̝ə hɪr ɡɛl]
3SG.F.NOM fast run.3SG.PRS after 1SG.REL.DAT COMPARE

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 04 Oct 2020 04:39
by rainbowcult
Who runs faster than me?
?Who more fast run-pres.3 than me.
Mal kal tel han fe,ekle,an jal ke.

Nobody runs faster than me.
Nobody more fast runs than me.
Tegalte tel han fe,ekle,an jal me.

Somebody runs faster than me.
Sombody more fast runs than me.
Gal tel han fe,ekle,an jal me.

That guy runs faster than me.
That person more fast runs than me
Wen kere tel han fe,ekle,an jal me.

She runs faster than me.
Ey more fast runs than me
Le tel han fe,ekle,an jal me.

I was too lazy to add the IPA.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 04 Oct 2020 18:15
by Khemehekis
Dormouse559 wrote: 07 Sep 2020 23:51 Updating Image Silvish
Love the flag! And Silvish uses the letter K now?

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 04 Oct 2020 21:41
by Dormouse559
Khemehekis wrote: 04 Oct 2020 18:15
Dormouse559 wrote: 07 Sep 2020 23:51 Updating Image Silvish
Love the flag!
Thank you! you can see the non-bubble version in this post. The coat of arms it's based on is in the next post up.
Khemhekis wrote:And Silvish uses the letter K now?
Yeah … I don't like it [xD] It's either <k> for /k/ and <qu> for a certain reflex of Latin /kʷ/; or <c> and <qu> for /k/ and <qù> for that /kʷ/ reflex. The latter certainly looks prettier, but it's also more complicated.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 07 Oct 2020 03:21
by Mándinrùh
Dormouse559 wrote: 04 Oct 2020 21:41 Yeah … I don't like it [xD] It's either <k> for /k/ and <qu> for a certain reflex of Latin /kʷ/; or <c> and <qu> for /k/ and <qù> for that /kʷ/ reflex. The latter certainly looks prettier, but it's also more complicated.
Don't forget the Spanish option: (c) or (qu) for /k/ and (cu) for /kʷ/. Though that doesn't work if you need to distinguish /kʷa/ and /ku.a/.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 07 Oct 2020 07:44
by Dormouse559
Mándinrùh wrote: 07 Oct 2020 03:21
Dormouse559 wrote: 04 Oct 2020 21:41 Yeah … I don't like it [xD] It's either <k> for /k/ and <qu> for a certain reflex of Latin /kʷ/; or <c> and <qu> for /k/ and <qù> for that /kʷ/ reflex. The latter certainly looks prettier, but it's also more complicated.
Don't forget the Spanish option: (c) or (qu) for /k/ and (cu) for /kʷ/. Though that doesn't work if you need to distinguish /kʷa/ and /ku.a/.
There is that. I feel like <cu> is too suggestive of the wrong pronunciation. This reflex of Latin /kʷ/ (specifically /kʷ/ before /a/) is not /kʷ/ in Silvish; it can be /ʃ/ or /tʃ/ or /f/, depending on the dialect. <qu/qù> is also unorthodox for those sounds, but, in my view, it's more malleable than <cu>.

Re: Who runs faster than me?

Posted: 13 Oct 2020 13:49
by Evni Öpiu-sä
I decided to modify this translation.

:con: Yea-oongty

Who runs faster than me?
Q-somebody run in_order_that grow-to_do away quick 1SG-ELA?
Nu-eskä uniit hey unoq-ak hik böösi köö-we?
[ˈnue̞skæ ˈuniːt̪ ˈhe̞y ˈunõ̞ŋɑk ˈhik ˈʙ̥ø̞ːsi ˈkø̞ːʋe̞]

Nobody runs faster than me.
Away being run in_order_that grow-to_do away quick 1SG-ELA.
Hik sööy uniit hey unoq-ak hik böösi köö-we.
[ˈhik sø̞ːy ˈuniːt̪ ˈhe̞y ˈunõ̞ŋɑk ˈhik ˈʙ̥ø̞ːsi ˈkø̞ːʋe̞]

Somebody runs faster than me.
Somebody run in_order_that grow-to_do away quick 1SG-ELA.
Eskä uniit hey unoq-ak hik böösi köö-we.
[ˈe̞skæ ˈuniːt̪ ˈhe̞y ˈunõ̞ŋɑk ˈhik ˈʙ̥ø̞ːsi ˈkø̞ːʋe̞]

That guy runs faster than me.
Circle-PTCP guy run in_order_that grow-to_do away quick 1SG-ELA.
Gau-ti yrpi uniit hey unoq-ak hik böösi köö-we.
[ˈɰɑut̪i ˈyrpi ˈuniːt̪ ˈhe̞y ˈunõ̞ŋɑk ˈhik ˈʙ̥ø̞ːsi ˈkø̞ːʋe̞]

She runs faster than me.
Arrow female run in_order_that grow-to_do away quick 1SG-ELA.
Einu alo uniit hey unoq-ak hik böösi köö-we.
[ˈe̞inu ˈɑlo ˈuniːt̪ ˈhe̞y ˈunõ̞ŋɑk ˈhik ˈʙ̥ø̞ːsi ˈkø̞ːʋe̞]