Lexicon milestones and discussion of lexicon growth
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Awesome milestone, Khemehekis!!
Many Happy Returns!
Many Happy Returns!
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Thanks for the congratulations, everyone!
Hmmm . . . would this refer to the act of vomiting up garbage posts onto an Internet forum?clawgrip wrote:You also coined the word "boarf", which is something special.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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I like the idea of being a saint. Right up there with Hildegarde of Bingen! (Of course, her Lingua Ignota may not have been a true conlang; Aszev once suggested it may be a relex.)k1234567890y wrote: congratulations, Khemehekis, let me call you a saint of conlangers.
I'll take this as a compliment! Just keep at it.I hope I can be more conscientious like you and be as continuously industrious in expanding the vocabulary of existing conlangs as you. :)
What is the significance of 50,000, you ask? Well, it's a twentieth of a million words, a nice round number that takes a lot of work to reach. But also, according to the site http://kumfut-toneys-wong.yolasite.com/:
Any language which includes less than 50,000 words for a vocabulary, cannot be qualified as an accurate language. Languages need more than this to reflect accuracy in today’s complicated world which needs lots of flexible expressions ! ! Current IALs’ do not meet this qualification and therefore cannot do the job as any truly useful global-language and can be useful only as personal languages of sorts. When it reaches 80,000 figure however, it can make more than a comforting accurate global language.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Re: Lexicon milestones
Glo:gg glo:gg glo:gg! Yay!Lao Kou wrote:I should be delighted! Chin-chin! Congrats.Khemehekis wrote:Calls for a celebration. Lao Kou, would you like some zhinwa?
[/quote][/quote](Though one hopes this isn't one of those local "delicacies" like bat nasal linings fermented in snake bile, in which case I'll stop at one.)
This may refresh your memory:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4616&p=185300&hilit=zhinwa#p185300
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Keenir wrote:
Many congratulations and *offers you cake*
Yay! Cake!Lao Kou wrote:Cake?!
Perhaps a tunnel cake (pastry resembling a half-cylinder filled with cream), or a uesheuvi (Povoian coconut milk cake), or a zhadati (sweet cake of wheat and shredded yula)?
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Lexicon milestones
Cilantro booze. Okay, I'll raise two to you.Khemehekis wrote:This may refresh your memory:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=4616&p=185300&hilit=zhinwa#p185300
☯ 道可道,非常道
☯ 名可名,非常名
☯ 名可名,非常名
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Ari!
Yay!
Yay!
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Re: Lexicon milestones
Post when you reach 1,234.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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Re: Lexicon milestones
You skipped the 1,234 milestone!
4-3-2-1,
Through the barrel of a gun . . .
4-3-2-1,
Through the barrel of a gun . . .
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Lexicon milestones
Earth below usKhemehekis wrote:4-3-2-1,
drifting falling
floating weightless
calling calling home...
☯ 道可道,非常道
☯ 名可名,非常名
☯ 名可名,非常名
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Major Tom.Lao Kou wrote:Earth below usKhemehekis wrote:4-3-2-1,
drifting falling
floating weightless
calling calling home...
Seriously, I sing the Guster line every time I see the clock say 12:34. It's become a compulsion . . .
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Lexicon milestones
According to someone on QueerConlangers, Silarg is basically a relexification of French. As someone with no experience with either language, I can not know.Khemehekis wrote: I wonder how Silarg is doing these days. Silarg is a language for the gay community that was approaching its ten thousandth word as of the time I last saw its creator active online. The conlang most likely to be learned by Lady Gaga!
Though I do find it odd that there are not more languages like Silarg and Láadan. Maybe glossopoeia is considered too heteronormative or phallocentric for queer theorists.
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Wow! I never knew Silarg was a relex of French.shanoxilt wrote: According to someone on QueerConlangers, Silarg is basically a relexification of French. As someone with no experience with either language, I can not know.
Though I do find it odd that there are not more languages like Silarg and Láadan. Maybe glossopoeia is considered too heteronormative or phallocentric for queer theorists.
Conlanging does have a male bias, but there are a disproportionately high proportion of LGBT conlangers (I myself am bisexual). See this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1451
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Lexicon milestones
My anecdotal experience inclines me to believe it. It also seems that asexuals are slowly becoming more visible in glossopoeic circles.Khemehekis wrote: Conlanging does have a male bias, but there are a disproportionately high proportion of LGBT conlangers (I myself am bisexual). See this thread: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1451
Do you have any hypotheses as to why queerfolk are so attracted to this hobby?
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I can think of at least one asexual conlanger . . . Shm Jay, from the ZBB. I couldn't name too many, though.shanoxilt wrote:It also seems that asexuals are slowly becoming more visible in glossopoeic circles.
I'd say it goes along with the general neurodivergent, exonorm, Neanderthal-gene (according to the Ekblad theory, that is) nature of conlangers. A lot of Aspies, a lot of bipolar people, a lot of synaesthetes (including yours truly!) . . . this could also explain why conlangers are such a male bunch, because females are less likely than males to have physical or mental disorders. Aszev said in the other thread, though, that conlangery seems to be about 90% male to 10% female, so the neurodivergence factor alone wouldn't explain the extreme gender imbalance.shanoxilt wrote: Do you have any hypotheses as to why queerfolk are so attracted to this hobby?
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Lexicon milestones
Simpler explanation: Only "rich" people have time to conlang! Or at least post about it on the internet. And only rich people unfortunately have the social class to reveal their sexuality openly, and only rich people have the money to get diagnosed with mental disability. Only the rich upperclass have the want to enter linguistics. And unfortunately, that's the way it will stay. (Not that it's bad to be rich, but let's be brutally honest: have you seen a Native American internet conlanger? One from Nigeria? One from [Insert Impoverished Group Here]?)Khemehekis wrote:I can think of at least one asexual conlanger . . . Shm Jay, from the ZBB. I couldn't name too many, though.shanoxilt wrote:It also seems that asexuals are slowly becoming more visible in glossopoeic circles.
I'd say it goes along with the general neurodivergent, exonorm, Neanderthal-gene (according to the Ekblad theory, that is) nature of conlangers. A lot of Aspies, a lot of bipolar people, a lot of synaesthetes (including yours truly!) . . . this could also explain why conlangers are such a male bunch, because females are less likely than males to have physical or mental disorders. Aszev said in the other thread, though, that conlangery seems to be about 90% male to 10% female, so the neurodivergence factor alone wouldn't explain the extreme gender imbalance.shanoxilt wrote: Do you have any hypotheses as to why queerfolk are so attracted to this hobby?
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Not a bad explanation, but that still doesn't explain why conlanging is so overwhelmingly male a hobby.qwed117 wrote: Simpler explanation: Only "rich" people have time to conlang! Or at least post about it on the internet. And only rich people unfortunately have the social class to reveal their sexuality openly, and only rich people have the money to get diagnosed with mental disability. Only the rich upperclass have the want to enter linguistics. And unfortunately, that's the way it will stay. (Not that it's bad to be rich, but let's be brutally honest: have you seen a Native American internet conlanger? One from Nigeria? One from [Insert Impoverished Group Here]?)
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: Now at 100,209 words!
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Lexicon milestones
Because of sexist norms that prevent women from being introduced into conlanging? I feel that males are forced towards linguistics more, while women are forced to achieve something real (aka, sciences and mathematics) or pushed to the other extreme (social work and teaching)Khemehekis wrote:Not a bad explanation, but that still doesn't explain why conlanging is so overwhelmingly male a hobby.qwed117 wrote: Simpler explanation: Only "rich" people have time to conlang! Or at least post about it on the internet. And only rich people unfortunately have the social class to reveal their sexuality openly, and only rich people have the money to get diagnosed with mental disability. Only the rich upperclass have the want to enter linguistics. And unfortunately, that's the way it will stay. (Not that it's bad to be rich, but let's be brutally honest: have you seen a Native American internet conlanger? One from Nigeria? One from [Insert Impoverished Group Here]?)