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p k ʔ
f s h
o i a
p k can be geminated
f s can be syllabic, long or short
Long vowel chains are permitted with glide allophones of i o
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p k ʔ
f s h
o i a
Glad I was a source of ideas! The consonants look a bit like a Polynesian language minus the nasals... pretty similar to Luangiua without /m ŋ l/. The syllabic fricatives are cool in such a small inventory; they remind me of the fricated vowels in the Lakes Plain languages. Is there a diachronic explanation for the lack of /t/? It looks like there was the Hawai'ian shift of /t k/ → /k ʔ/, or maybe something more complicated.DesEsseintes wrote: ↑12 Jan 2020 11:34 The recent threads by Davush and VaptuantaDoi have been giving me ideas lately. Here’s a tiny phonology I like:
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p k ʔ f s h o i a
p k can be geminated
f s can be syllabic, long or short
Long vowel chains are permitted with glide allophones of i o
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n̥ n
t k ʔ
θ ð s z x ɣ h
ɬ l r̥ r
j w
iː uː
ɪ
eː oː
ʌ
aː
Reminiscent of Chukchi.Porphyrogenitos wrote: ↑13 Jan 2020 00:46 A vowel harmony system
High:
/i ə u/
/iə̯ iu̯ əi̯ əu̯ uə̯ ui̯/
Low:
/e a o/
/ea̯ eo̯ ae̯ ao̯ oa̯ oe̯/
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p t c tn tł ch k
t’ c’ tn’ tł’ ch’ k’ ’
z s ł sh x h
m n l y g w
So, if you want to introduce consonant length, you could have it only on plosives (including the affricate if you want). The /k/ geminate could also be different in that it shortens instead of leniting wordfinally. Also, just for me, another way of looking at the inventory is the following.Thrice Xandvii wrote: ↑28 Mar 2020 11:45 So I have been toying with a script for the first time in a long time (yes I will post it eventually), and have a phoneme inventory to go with it... but I feel like it is uninspired and need something to make it a bit more interesting or in any way be more than just, I don't know, existent.
Currently it is:
/m n~ŋ/ <m n ŋ>
/p~f t ts k~g/ <p f t z k g>
/s x~ɣ/ <s h ğ>
/w l/ <w l>
/a a: i i: o~u o:~u:/ <a ā i ī o u ō ū>
As for phonotactic stuff, I am thinking C(L)V(:)(K), where K is velars and L is /w l/.
There are a few allophone things here, as you can see:
o > u / {m, p, f, w}_
f > p / #_
{n k x} > {ŋ g ɣ} / _#
I do tend to like minimal consonant inventories, but this one just feels super BLAH to me. Maybe some consonant length or some interesting asymmetry or something might help out. What are common and easy to pronounce consonants to have phonemic length distinctions? Any other suggestions or comments?