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Re: Interesting Ideas

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GamerGeek wrote:
Ælfwine wrote:
GamerGeek wrote:A philosophical language with no grammar words or pronouns--instead, it is done in declension.
So a polysynthetic lang?
Not quite.
What I'm saying, is use a bunch of cases, and put pronouns (or at least nominitive pronouns) into the verb.
WALS Ch. 35, "Plurality in Independent Personal Pronouns," by Michael Daniel mentions
two languages reported to have no plural independent subject pronouns or no independent subject pronouns at all: Acoma (Keresan; New Mexico) and Wari’ (Chapacura-Wanham; Brazil).
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GamerGeek wrote:
Ælfwine wrote:
GamerGeek wrote:A philosophical language with no grammar words or pronouns--instead, it is done in declension.
So a polysynthetic lang?
Not quite.
What I'm saying, is use a bunch of cases, and put pronouns (or at least nominitive pronouns) into the verb.
Mate, do you know how much stuff comes under "grammar words" (by which you mean function words)? It's not just cases and polypersonal marking we're talking about, it's TAM, negation and voice as well. Put that all in and you're getting pretty close to polysynthesis, if not quite there.
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Frislander wrote:
GamerGeek wrote:
Ælfwine wrote:
GamerGeek wrote:A philosophical language with no grammar words or pronouns--instead, it is done in declension.
So a polysynthetic lang?
Not quite.
What I'm saying, is use a bunch of cases, and put pronouns (or at least nominitive pronouns) into the verb.
Mate, do you know how much stuff comes under "grammar words" (by which you mean function words)? It's not just cases and polypersonal marking we're talking about, it's TAM, negation and voice as well. Put that all in and you're getting pretty close to polysynthesis, if not quite there.

Just wanted to clarify that Frislander means this frankly, and also to add that yes, a fair few polysynthetic languages do this.
I also wonder if since pronominal state is bound to verbs that pronominal case is represented by converbs?
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1. A language with only voiced consonants (perhaps good for singing?)

2. A hyper-irregular language with NO rules for forming plurals, and past-tense of verbs, say. Just have the different forms of a word formed with a random word generator. However, I'd probably do this with a language that doesn't have cases or too many verbal distictions of TAM, as otherwise it'd become too outlandish.

3. A Icelandic-Basque creole (which is actually a mishmash of the two languages, as opposed to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque%E2 ... dic_pidgin )
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holbuzvala wrote:1. A language with only voiced consonants (perhaps good for singing?)
Well there are quite a few Aboriginal Australian languages which are reported to do that, so it's not unattested. I'm not sure how that would help with the singing.
3. A Icelandic-Basque creole (which is actually a mishmash of the two languages, as opposed to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque%E2 ... dic_pidgin )
Well that's not a creole, that's a mixed language, but it's still a neat idea.
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A Brythonic language with great influence from Romance languages.
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gokupwned5 wrote:A Brythonic language with great influence from Romance languages.
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Breton is not this?
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A language in which every sentence is an image. We can do nice things with that language:
-picking random image from the internet and translating it into this conlang
-making image that look like simple sentence but be a fractal and have infinite depth
-translating GIFs into this conlang (meanings change fluently!)
-FRACTAL GIFS
-making a computer game, being simultaneously a story told in this language
-making conlang's logo
-theoretically this post have the secret meaning in this conlang
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I have also an idea for romance language which has bilabial clicks that evolved from Latin qu
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My mini-ideas:.
- The engelang whose structure is based not on the action and the objects that are associated with it, but on the relationship between two concepts.
- Another engelang in which instead of pronouns there are variables, and each verb takes as arguments two variables that are phonologically combined and inserted as a single phone into a twoliteral roots; for example, if like is l-k, and we want to say A likes E, we say læk, because A+E=Æ.
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TBPO wrote: 15 May 2024 19:53 - Another engelang in which instead of pronouns there are variables, and each verb takes as arguments two variables that are phonologically combined and inserted as a single phone into a twoliteral roots; for example, if like is l-k, and we want to say A likes E, we say læk, because A+E=Æ.
I always wanted to try one of these (i.e. an engelang with pronoun variables). I was also thinking of adding event variables.
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The auxlang whose vocabulary is built from proper names - for example "watt" is "electrity", "bell" is phone etc. I used the last names of inventors and discoverers, but it can be any proper name related to that thing.
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TBPO wrote: 16 May 2024 16:43 The auxlang whose vocabulary is built from proper names - for example "watt" is "electrity", "bell" is phone etc. I used the last names of inventors and discoverers, but it can be any proper name related to that thing.
The whole vocabulary? That seems quite unworkable, unless one simply assigns random names to every concept, at which point all you have is a language where all the words happen to be proper names in other languages.
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xkgshgTlhk is my mini-conlang that has:
1. Cursed phonology - no vowels, strange places of articulation, labialized velar lateral click etc.
2. Cursed grammar - words are simple clauses, and sentences are combinations of them
3. Cursed semantics - "It's food" and "I am this" are synonims [}:D]

Guess how to pronounce "xkgshgTlhk".
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A jokelang where all the morphemes are null.
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TBPO wrote: 29 May 2024 17:03 xkgshgTlhk is my mini-conlang that has:
1. Cursed phonology - no vowels, strange places of articulation, labialized velar lateral click etc.
2. Cursed grammar - words are simple clauses, and sentences are combinations of them
3. Cursed semantics - "It's food" and "I am this" are synonims [}:D]

Guess how to pronounce "xkgshgTlhk".
Nuxalk squared. Like, you could actually do this.
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lurker wrote: 30 May 2024 18:33 A jokelang where all the morphemes are null.
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∅-∅ ∅-∅
1SG-think DEM.PROX-be.cool
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∅      ∅   ∅-∅-∅
merely 3sg be-gloss-PL
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TBPO wrote: 27 Apr 2024 08:49 A language
that look like simple sentence but be a fractal and have infinite depth
making conlang's logo
whose structure is based not on the action and the objects that are associated with it, but on the relationship between two concepts.
words are simple clauses, and sentences are combinations of them
I could pick'em as 3SDeductiveLanguage(1Sense=1Sign=1Sound) definition too...
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lurker wrote: 30 May 2024 21:41

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∅      ∅   ∅-∅-∅
merely 3sg be-gloss-PL
∅ ∅ ∅=∅ ∅-∅-∅
AFF in manner=DIST 3SG-exist-probably
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