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by Omzinesý
03 Jun 2020 12:58
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11759
Views: 1419468

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm thinking about diachronic conlanging.

If the proto-language has /o:/, what could condition that the/o:/ changes to /u:/ in some environments and /uo/ in some environments?
by Omzinesý
02 Jun 2020 13:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gada language - a isolate in Sweden
Replies: 27
Views: 2219

Re: Gadish - a isolate in Northern Sweden

A new attempt on adpositions [...] 3) preposition noun+NOM postposition. The postposition can also be seen as an adverb. It can also appear somewhere else than after the noun if there is the preposition too. Is X heza 'inside' Ha X hezi 'into' Aj X hezta 'from the inside' Ran X hezti 'through the i...
by Omzinesý
02 Jun 2020 11:10
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]

The Turkish Nominal Phrase in Spoken Discourse 6.4.3 https://books.google.fi/books?id=LGSChe ... ic&f=false

seems to analyse that Genitive NP and Possessive Suffixes in Turkish are actually adverbials.
by Omzinesý
01 Jun 2020 22:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gada language - a isolate in Sweden
Replies: 27
Views: 2219

Re: Gada language - a isolate in Sweden

There is a medio-passive voice in Gada. In monosyllabic verbs, it is marked by tones. Earlier medio-passive marker thus disappeared and the tone of a polysyllabic word is left. fi ót 'to take' fi òt 'to go' fi klán 'to find' fi klàn 'to be there' fi lýn 'to speak' fi ly`n 'to think' (to speak to one...
by Omzinesý
31 May 2020 20:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 11759
Views: 1419468

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Hey it's been a while since I've been on.. And I have a quick question. So a conlang I've been working on has no adverbs or adjectives, instead it uses nouns for both of these categories. My question is: What might be a good way to handle pro-adverbs like where/how/therefore/etc? I was thinking of ...
by Omzinesý
31 May 2020 11:51
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

Just to add: I don't agree that we need a theory to look at languages. I think we do need concepts , but not necessarily a theory (not that snytactic theories are really theories anyway!). As an analogy: let's say you tell me you like, say, the dance of the sugar plum fairy from The Nutcracker, and...
by Omzinesý
31 May 2020 11:14
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

"Possessive clause" is a semantic~ish term to me, "a clause that expresses possession". Apparently I should have said "a clause expressing clausal possession" or something. "Existential clause" seems to be a syntactic label (in this discussion). That's not how I was using it, no. I was using it as ...
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 22:21
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

I apologize if this post is too long. It's just that I love this stuff! And I want to make some time to discuss it. Yes, it seems that (in)definiteness is not the right category to describe what I find fascinating in that. Restrictiveness might be a better concept for conceptualizing the point. "My...
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 21:59
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

Written before Ser I guess I'd kind of like to understand what you were talking about, because then I might (or might not) find it interesting! If nothing else, it would be nice to know if you found my posts on what I thought might be the topic interesting, or if they were just a waste of time. EDIT...
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 19:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Gada language - a isolate in Sweden
Replies: 27
Views: 2219

Re: Gada language - a isolate in Sweden

The change from [r] to [ʁ] started in the 18th or 19th century, so seeing as your speakers belong to a separate linguistic community, it's not unreasonable that they would keep their distinction. There were pockets of [r]-using dialects even in the South. As a solution for the d>r thing, you could ...
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 19:32
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say. Could you maybe try saying it in a non-theoretical-framework way? It may be that whatever framework you're using here is creating an unnecessary confusion both for you, and for us in understanding you? I'm not even that confident around your...
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 19:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Tulemo
Replies: 48
Views: 801

Re: Tulemo

Reflexives and reciprocals are just intransitives.

θanisò ujinu.
θ-a-nino-` ujin-u
ANIM.O-DIR-PL1-PAT love-V
'We love him/her.'

Taniso ujinu.
t-a-nino ujin-u
ANIM.S-DIR-PL1 love-V
'We love each other.'

Some verbs have of course other meanings as intransitives.
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 11:51
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 7304
Views: 943766

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So *waćV is PU reconstruction for a shamelike thing?
What is the PU form for 'stomach'?

My understanding of Uralistics is very fragmented.
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 11:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Tulemo
Replies: 48
Views: 801

Re: Tulemo

Demonstratives are formed with preposition tiltu 'near'. Prepositions and verbs have -e form used as an attribute. hema tilte 'that tree' It can be specified with pronominal clitics: hema tilteso 'this tree (near the speaker)' hema tilteno 'that tree (near the addressee)' hema tilteniso 'this tree (...
by Omzinesý
29 May 2020 09:41
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

I have studied Hungarian and Turkish possession clauses. I It took time to dig information from the Internet. At last, I just used Google Translate and analysed the result. Adamın bir evi var. man-GEN INDEF house-HIS exists 'The man has a house.' The interesting point is that 'his house' is an inde...
by Omzinesý
27 May 2020 22:21
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

Unfortunately, I cannot own a grammar book of every language. I own quite many and try to avoid getting more. You know how it is when you get inspiration to find something out at once. But Google Translate works surprisingly well (if one of the languages is English). I start trusting it at some poin...
by Omzinesý
27 May 2020 21:33
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

Like I said, it was very hard to find it directly said. All forums say things like 'I have a house' "Evim var.". It was kind of the non-linguistic point of the massage that I had to use Google translate to see that the possessor appears in Genitive not ,say, Dative. Forums quite often lack some very...
by Omzinesý
27 May 2020 21:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Tulemo
Replies: 48
Views: 801

Re: Tulemo

Questions Polar questions (those answered yes or no) are formed by using Interrogative form of Auxiliary, (1). (1) θunusò oxinu? θ-u-nu-so-` oxin-u ANIM.DO-DIR.INTERROGATIVE-sg2-sg1-O love-V 'Do you love me?' Interrogative form does not code polarity. If you just want to know the truth value, you ne...
by Omzinesý
27 May 2020 20:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Tulemo
Replies: 48
Views: 801

Re: Tulemo

[...] Phonology It is very simple so it can be presented as phoneme tables. Consonant phonemes p t k ʔ f θ x h s m n pm tn kŋ l tl kʟ * Prestopped consonants usually only appear in morpho-phonological processes. <p t k '> <f θ~þ x h> <s> <m n> <pm tn kn> <l> <tl kl> Vowel phonemes i u e o ä <i u> <...
by Omzinesý
27 May 2020 20:17
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Possession and Grammar Theory [Split]
Replies: 25
Views: 98

Re: Today I learned ...

Adamın bir evi var. man-GEN INDEF house-HIS exists 'The man has a house.' The interesting point is that 'his house' is an indefinite NP. Well, it has that bir "INDEF" marker there, so presumably it's definite without that? English allows similar indefinite interpretations of noun phrases possessed ...