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Re: Dleesoop
The second task is clause-external syntax. As said before, puu 'act' can be used as an action nominalization. Usually, clauses are just juxtaposed however. There are the three secondary aspects/tenses: prospective 'in order to P, before P', perfect 'after P, because P', and progressive 'while P-ing'...
- 17 May 2022 15:43
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
- Replies: 905
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Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Different voices also get secondary meanings very easily and those secondary meanings can later develop to the primary meaning.
Say "I'm being written the pen." for 'I'm writing with the pen.'
Say "I'm being written the pen." for 'I'm writing with the pen.'
- 17 May 2022 10:27
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
- Replies: 161
- Views: 58798
Re: Omzinian Scrap thread
I've been watching a Icelandic TV series. My second conlang will have many dental spirants in coda. Đr is a nice cluster.
- 13 May 2022 20:57
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary
- Replies: 19
- Views: 2748
Re: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary
I'm once again thinking about this project. The conjugation could also be: ama ['ama] 'to love' sg1 ám [a:m] sg2 ams [amʃ] sg3 am [am] pl1 amós ['amo:ʃ] pl2 amés ['ame:ʃ] pl3 ?? If the stem ends in two consonants, sg1 and sg3 are identical. tancc [tant͡s] 'I dance' / 'dances' The past tense could be...
- 12 May 2022 21:13
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: The relative clause can't have a subject... wait, WHAT?
- Replies: 5
- Views: 351
Re: The relative clause can't have a subject... wait, WHAT?
First It seems you understand your lang very well. You just lack some terms describing it. Basically, your clauses could be "impersonal passives" or just "impersonal", meaning that they lack the subject. Some languages have such voices. Probably you could say that 'onion' is the ...
- 11 May 2022 22:33
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
- Replies: 373
- Views: 75575
Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
p t k
f s θ ɬ x
v z ð l ɣ
m n
vowels
i ɨ u
ə ˤə
æ ɑ
Consonants are pharyngealized/backed when they precede a "back" vowel /ɨ u ˤə ɑ/.
Stress lies on the first non-central vowel.
f s θ ɬ x
v z ð l ɣ
m n
vowels
i ɨ u
ə ˤə
æ ɑ
Consonants are pharyngealized/backed when they precede a "back" vowel /ɨ u ˤə ɑ/.
Stress lies on the first non-central vowel.
- 09 May 2022 11:20
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Conlanging Features you Avoid
- Replies: 150
- Views: 24232
Re: Conlanging Features you Avoid
Now, if grammatical gender was correlated to social gender, one would expect Medieval Christianity, whose language of education was Latin, which has a neuter gender, to be more accepting of Intersex, while Judaism, whose language of education was Hebrew, having only grammatical Masc and Fem to be l...
- 08 May 2022 23:18
- Forum: Translations
- Topic: to die
- Replies: 9
- Views: 1544
Re: to die
This looks like a natlang (or very advanced conlang) challenge. :fin: kuolla 'to die' menehtyä 'to perish' delata potkaista tyhjää 'to kick empty(ness)' heittää veivi 'to throw a crank' siirtyä autuaammille metsästysmaille 'to move to more blessed hunting grounds' siirtyä ajasta ijäisyyteen 'to move...
Re: Chirdau
Verbs This part is more incomplete than the noun sextion. Most verbs have two roots that are combined in the stem. They are: 1) a simple verb: It is close to the concept of light verb but Chirdau verbs are semantically more idiosyncratic combos and they are morphologically part of the same word. Sim...
Re: Chirdau
Nouns Nominal morphology is relatively simple and agglutinative but the suffixes interact. 1. stem - 2. number - 3.definiteness/possessedness/case(?) Slot 2. There are three kinds of nouns 1) inherently singular 2) inherently plural 3) inherently locative 1) Joppa 'a man (slightly pejorative)' is a...
Re: Chirdau
Phonology Vowel inventory All syllables: u <u> ɪ <i> e o <e o> a <a> Only open syllables: i <ij> ei eu oi ou <ej eu oj ou> ai au <aj au> (They can be seen as V+glide too.) Consonant inventory p t t͡ɕ* k <p/b t/d c/g c/g/ch/gh> f s ɕ* x <f/v s x x/xh> m n <m n> l <l> r <r> j w** <j u> * Palatals /ɕ ...
Chirdau
Chirdau ['kɪrd̪au] I have been developing this lang in my Scrap thread. - relatively simple phonology - three genders - most verbs consist of a simple verb and a coverb - ergative alignment - SOV - agglutinative morphology with some tricks In Chirdau, I can use the ideas that I didn't end up using i...
- 04 May 2022 21:03
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Random ideas: Morphosyntax
- Replies: 768
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Re: Random ideas: Morphosyntax
I've been thinking of a system where (like several Asian languages I think) every noun is preceded by a classifier noun such as "person", "animal", etc. Hopefully unlike those languages, while the noun root never declines, the classifier can be inflected for number, case, etc. I...
- 04 May 2022 15:08
- Forum: Teach & Share
- Topic: Curiosities in Finnish
- Replies: 40
- Views: 10718
Re: Curiosities in Finnish
Derivational morphology is maybe the most interesting part of Finnish. In this post, I am going to discuss the causative suffix -tta. All verbs can be causativized. The causee appears in the Adessive which is the instrumental case. Dixon's article on causatives analyses it very oddly because he does...
Re: Dleesoop
Nominal prediction uses the verbal strategy. Nearly all Dleesoop words are nous, though, so it is not surprising that nominal predication does not really exist. (1) Dlo', puudde. PERSON, be_male 'He is a man/male.' You can also add a generic noun as an object of the verb, though it is usually redun...
- 02 May 2022 12:27
- Forum: Translations
- Topic: The heretics have burnt our temple!
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3900
Re: The heretics have burnt our temple!
How would one say “The temple have burnt our heretics!”? I haven't thought about possession. If both the agent and the patient are full NPs, semantic roles are not coded. So, the same sentence can be translated like that, too. Usually, the meaning is "derived from the context". If the sem...
Re: Dleesoop
My second task will be thinking about clause types more deeply. I'm (kindof) back after a long time away! I was re-reading "Intransitive Predication" by Stassen, and I thought it might make a good conlang quiz, one which I may or may not have done before. Without going into too many detail...
- 28 Apr 2022 19:17
- Forum: Translations
- Topic: The heretics have burnt our temple!
- Replies: 18
- Views: 3900
Re: The heretics have burnt our temple!
Dleesoop
Kaathiinee, puukome dlo'dúudso'oka
Kaat-hiinee, puuko-me dlo'-duudso'-oka
BUILDING-religion, destroy-RERF PERSON-believe_right-VOL.NEG
'The temple has been destroyed by those who don't believe correctly.'
Kaathiinee, puukome dlo'dúudso'oka
Kaat-hiinee, puuko-me dlo'-duudso'-oka
BUILDING-religion, destroy-RERF PERSON-believe_right-VOL.NEG
'The temple has been destroyed by those who don't believe correctly.'
Re: Dleesoop
Issues on Dleesoop syntax Simple clauses Dleesoop is a topic-prominent language. Clauses that Lambrecht calls arguments focus , that is, the normal clauses that are about some known entity, are constituted by a topic NP and a comment VP. There is usually a pause between the two. (1) Dlo', kewiino. ...
- 26 Apr 2022 19:05
- Forum: Translations
- Topic: Explanation of sex
- Replies: 3
- Views: 530
Re: Explanation of sex
Dleesoop (to be modified) (1) Puuzawanódod, kahi? puu-zawa-nodod, kahi ACT-have_sex-be_violent, be_what ‘What is rape?’ (2) Kuuwode dlo’, puudde kuuzi, dlo’, tahaat kuuzi, puuha’iiazawa. kuuwode dlo’, puudde kuuzi, dlo’, tahaat kuuzi, puu-ha’iia-zawa force PERSON, be_male usually, PERSON, be_female ...