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by Omzinesý
05 May 2021 23:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Half of peoples call themselves just "people", and they they surely know other peoples.
languages can tolerate much polysemy. 'Person human' and 'man' are also same in many languages.
by Omzinesý
02 May 2021 13:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Salmoneus wrote: 02 May 2021 12:44
Thanks!
I guess i more or less understood.
It's always nice to find new linguistics features, which doesn't happen as often as earlier.
by Omzinesý
02 May 2021 13:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

It would seem odd to have obviation so important as to need marking on the pronouns, yet not be necessary to mark on the nouns. It also means that you have to deduce the reference of the pronouns simply from context, despite it being important enough to have this entire grammatical system built aro...
by Omzinesý
02 May 2021 12:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So, what does obviative do? It just says 'this NP is lower in the hierarchy' and semantic roles and information structure are coded by cases or word order or something else? That definition is wrong, obviation just marks that one third-person entity is less salient than another and is thus more bac...
by Omzinesý
02 May 2021 02:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

A ditransitive sentence Adu me-rēbali s-ūlā palalta. We gave the man some dates . If the marker was obligatory then a monotransitive sentencewould have: Adu m-ūlā palalta. We gave some dates away. But I want it to be mainly this: Adu ūlā palalta. We gave some dates away. We have very different defi...
by Omzinesý
02 May 2021 01:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

- Proximate/obviate is a way to mark (4) - they say which non-participant is acting on which. So they're not really the same thing at all. You can have one without the other - D/I languages mostly aren't P/O, except in North America. However, it's not a coincidence that in North America languages a...
by Omzinesý
01 May 2021 20:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 115
Views: 32699

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

Idea! An English-based creole Usually CVCV words with the same vowel dogo 'dog' kete 'cat' bolo 'ball' But English diphthongs are divided into two syllables fati 'fight' tanu 'town' But through language shift from a native language, new exotic grammatical features have appeared, like inverse alignme...
by Omzinesý
01 May 2021 18:49
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Alignments are probably the most interesting part of linguistics. I started thinking how I could copy your ideas. Is it naturalistic that these are completely optional and only really exist in ditransitive constructions? One could argue that no marker in no language is never completely optional. The...
by Omzinesý
26 Apr 2021 19:13
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 478
Views: 37299

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

<cc> seems to be pronounced [ks] in English and French, at least in some words like vaccine. It that a sound change between Latin and French?
by Omzinesý
24 Apr 2021 18:19
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Short Study on Ejectives and Aspiration
Replies: 2
Views: 108

Short Study on Ejectives and Aspiration

My study question is Does having ejective consonant phonemes predict having aspirated consonant phonemes? If yes, should it be explained just so that ejectives are such atypical and hard-to-pronounce sounds and other distinctive features are first utilized? Or is there some deeper connection to do w...
by Omzinesý
22 Apr 2021 00:37
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Little isolating thing
Replies: 3
Views: 269

Re: Little isolating thing

Vague idea: Mostly isolating a priori engelang with a small vocabulary (possibly expandable later on). Attempting to optimise not so much for quantity of grammar rules, but rather quantity of grammatical "things" required to construct different kinds of sentences, which I know sounds like utter non...
by Omzinesý
16 Apr 2021 13:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: What did you accomplish today?
Replies: 346
Views: 37883

Re: What did you accomplish today?

Been working on cases in Hussite, not entirely satisfied with them. Hussite is supposed to fulfill a role similar to Sumerian to Akkadian, but it sure sounds less like a Mesopotamian language and more like some weird Caucasian language cāḫuiḵ hāfaš 0-cāḫu-iḵ h-āf-aš SG-city-GEN PL-man-ACC [tʃʰɑː.χw...
by Omzinesý
15 Apr 2021 12:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

@Omzinesy: Does having ejective consonant phonemes predict having aspirated consonant phonemes? It the correlation strong? If yes, should it be explained just so that ejectives are such atypical and hard-to-pronounce sounds that other distinctive features are first utilized? Or is there some deeper...
by Omzinesý
12 Apr 2021 20:42
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 539
Views: 45248

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

This is a natlang question but it seems this section is more active. Does having ejective consonant phonemes predict having aspirated consonant phonemes? It the correlation strong? If yes, should it be explained just so that ejectives are such atypical and hard-to-pronounce sounds that other distinc...
by Omzinesý
08 Apr 2021 09:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Moaduu development thread
Replies: 23
Views: 2144

Re: Moaduu development thread

The verb still has some unsolved issues, but it is more or less clear what categories it codes. So, I can proceed to syntax. The word order is SOV or OSV, depending on what is the more topical argument. Some very heavy, that is long, parts of the sentence can follow the verb, but they are usually em...
by Omzinesý
08 Apr 2021 09:24
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 478
Views: 37299

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Can Swedish have the sentence: Stenen såg pojken. be interpreted 'The boy saw the stone.'? My understanding is that Swedish word order is somewhat "freer" than that of English. Or must it be understood in the unnatural sense that the stone saw the boy?
by Omzinesý
08 Apr 2021 09:12
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 35
Views: 10915

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

Allowing /s/ + stop clusters to begin a syllable is actually one of Indo-European peculiarities , since these clusters also go against the sonority hierarchy. In that context Western Romance languages which put a vowel before these clusters are actually making things more normal! It's not that weir...
by Omzinesý
08 Apr 2021 09:06
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 35
Views: 10915

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

Northern Saami has quite few CVCV words but very often a geminate. Finnish kota Northern Saami koɑhti - koɑʰtti Estonian word strength is also interesting: linn 'town' liin 'linen' lina '?' (at least allowed) # lin (too short a word to be allowed) Both vowels and consonants can be of three different...
by Omzinesý
06 Apr 2021 12:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
Replies: 115
Views: 32699

Re: Omzinian Scrap thread

I have once again got interested in tone languages and their tonal morphology. Ideas: Nouns are usually VCV and verbs CV, like in Yoruba and Igbo. Verbs don't have lexical tones but verbs can be HH, HL, LH or LL. VPs have two grammatical functions expressed by tone: same subject vs. different subjec...
by Omzinesý
06 Apr 2021 09:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Moaduu development thread
Replies: 23
Views: 2144

Re: Moaduu development thread

My current feeling is that I'll simplify the verb morphology and get rid of 'have' auxilairy. Instead there is a causative/inchoative slot before the auxiliary. 'To fell a tree' is thus 'to make a tree fall.' I don't know if there will be some passive or anticausative elsewhere. korje-N-t-e listen-A...