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by Porphyrogenitos
01 Mar 2021 18:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random ideas: Morphosyntax
Replies: 750
Views: 127193

Re: Random ideas: Morphosyntax

It seems plausible enough. There is some Amazonian language (I forget which, this was from a morphology practice set) that evolved tense marking from deixis marking: "That man sleep" became interpreted as "That man (in the past) slept), vs. "This man sleep" which became interpreted as "This man (in ...
by Porphyrogenitos
26 Feb 2021 00:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

Have those already been submitted? If not, what are the rules for submitting a proposal or some proposals? No, they have not. We will take submissions for them once we have finished the process for deciding secondary stress. The rules will simply be that they must conform with everything else we ha...
by Porphyrogenitos
25 Feb 2021 02:49
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 41
Views: 10125

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Revising the vowels to something simpler. No umlaut. Length distinctions merge before beginning of orthographic tradition, along with back vowel shift of ɔ > o > u > y. As it happens, this still gives the name Γυτσκα Gytska. Although...hmm. I'm making it so that Bible Gothic long /a/ splits off in q...
by Porphyrogenitos
25 Feb 2021 01:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

So it only mattered on the vowel-length-and-diphthong inventory question, and even there it doesn’t matter which was first and which was second; right? Correct. Are you still planning to decide what our maximal syllable-weights will be? In natlangs weights heavier than tetramoraics are damn rare bu...
by Porphyrogenitos
25 Feb 2021 01:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

Yes! Although you don't need to list your 2nd, 3rd etc choices. I get why you're doing it, but unless we got everyone to list their choices and ran a whole ranked choice voting system I'm not really able to factor them in. Edit: I have also added ablaut to the the inflectional formatives vote, if yo...
by Porphyrogenitos
25 Feb 2021 00:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

Okay, everyone, in Round 13 , we voted on the Weight-sensitive stress runoff, and the winner is E) Unbounded: Stress can be anywhere in the word . Here is what WALS says about unbounded weight-sensitive stress systems: These systems are especially interesting because the location of stress is not re...
by Porphyrogenitos
24 Feb 2021 05:11
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 41
Views: 10125

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Inspired by the "Germanic Spanish" thread - now I'm wondering about a Germanic language (Gothic, presumably) that stayed in Greece and developed like late Koine and medieval Greek. I'm thinking it would undergo umlaut, unlike historical Gothic, to provide front rounded vowels to "feed into" the Koin...
by Porphyrogenitos
23 Feb 2021 23:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: How would you go about creating a Germanic conlang that is Spanish like?
Replies: 20
Views: 317

Re: How would you go about creating a Germanic conlang that is Spanish like?

Is this a good noob guess of how names may look like in a such conlang Haimariks - Henrico, Enrico Wiljahelmaz - Wilelmo/Wilermo Harjawaldaz - Harvaldo, Haraldo Raginaharjaz - Ragnaro, Rainero Sigiwarduz - Sigvardo, Sivardo(?) These are without any regular sound changes. My attempt at the regular s...
by Porphyrogenitos
23 Feb 2021 17:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: How would you go about creating a Germanic conlang that is Spanish like?
Replies: 20
Views: 317

Re: How would you go about creating a Germanic conlang that is Spanish like?

A bit of Hispanicized Gothic: hodo 'foot' / hodus 'feet' brute 'bride' / brutes 'brides' suestre 'sister' / suestros 'sisters' brotre 'brother' / brotros 'brothers' veuvierna 'orphan' / veuviernas 'orphans' aba 'husband' / abas 'husbands' houte 'head' / houtas 'heads' cesare 'emperor' / cesaras 'emp...
by Porphyrogenitos
22 Feb 2021 07:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

Are we going to have either polar secondary stress or rhythmic secondary stress? If so should we vote on it before or after we vote on how many syllable-weights to have? Hmm. Thank you for pointing this out. I totally missed the rhythm types chapter. I think what we will do is split that chapter up...
by Porphyrogenitos
19 Feb 2021 01:52
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

I think we can decide on the exact status and criteria for syllable weight once we have finished voting on the WALS weight categories and settled the phonotactics.
by Porphyrogenitos
18 Feb 2021 06:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

That's fine. We haven't really had a clearly-defined point to decide whether or not the vowel system has diphthongs, and the grammar-building process will eventually have to become more flexible anyways as we finish up with the WALS categories in each area of grammatical structure.
by Porphyrogenitos
18 Feb 2021 03:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

Okay, the votes are in for Round 12! Sorry for not getting to this till later. For Chapter 15: Weight-sensitive stress I deeply regret to announce that we have a tie, in this case between D) Right-oriented and E) Unbounded . So, that triggers a runoff in Round 13 Weight-sensitive stress runoff D) Ri...
by Porphyrogenitos
13 Feb 2021 22:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

I look forward to the next round! .... What do we have so far, again? (When this round is over and the next one begins?) Well, if you mean the language as a whole so far, we have a consistently head-marking language with no dominant word order, a hybrid vigesimal-decimal numeral system, productive ...
by Porphyrogenitos
10 Feb 2021 19:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

I just wanted to mention that R12C15 does not list all logical possibilities. Maybe any combination of A-E should be included in F. Thanks, I will do that and clarify that in the post. Anyway: I vote C15:E and C16:C, assuming that this means we add long vowels. Yes, if we vote for that option it wi...
by Porphyrogenitos
10 Feb 2021 18:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

Okay, here are our results for Round 11: Stress run-off - B) Predictable stress, weight-sensitive Chapter 27: Reduplication - A) Productive full and partial reduplication In Round 12 , we will be figuring out how exactly our our weight-sensitive predictable stress system will work. Chapter 15: Weigh...
by Porphyrogenitos
03 Feb 2021 18:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

The results for Round 10 are in! For Chapter 13: Tone we have decided on a Simple tone system (two-way contrast) . The vote for Stress has resulted in a tie between Predictable stress, fixed and Predictable stress, weight-sensitive. So in Round 11 we'll be doing a run-off on stress. I guess we can a...
by Porphyrogenitos
01 Feb 2021 18:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

This question needs more votes! [;)] As for stress, as I said, additional questions drawn from WALS will enable us to narrow down what the stress system looks like, if we choose to have a stress system. When it comes to tone, if we do decide to have it, we will wait until after the morphological que...
by Porphyrogenitos
28 Jan 2021 02:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia
Replies: 41
Views: 10125

Re: Porphyrogenitos' scratchpad and intermittent glossolalia

Idea for a thing that started out with a SAE-type consonant inventory, but simplified it through various elisions, deletions, and mergers comparable to Danish or "basilectal" Spanish, leaving behind various alternations reflected in the orthography. /p t c k/ (voiced after nasals) /f ç h/ /r l/ /w j...
by Porphyrogenitos
27 Jan 2021 22:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Typological voting game
Replies: 152
Views: 8769

Re: Typological voting game

Okay, everyone, we do indeed have results for Round 9 ! Our winning consonant inventory is inventory C - Creyeditor's "Lonely ejective" inventory! /p t k kʼ/ /m n/ /s/ /w r j/ In later rounds we will have the opportunity to decide on allophonic processes. Oh, and just so we can see the consonants an...