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by Santophrin
31 Oct 2019 11:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Tųda Syntax

After a long time of no conlanging, here we go again. Here is a little more on Tųda syntax. More to come, hopefully, soon. Tųda Syntax TP has become left-headed in Tųda. The highest verbal element (either main verb, or auxiliary) head-moves to T, yielding SVO orders in simple sentences. (This is in ...
by Santophrin
04 Jul 2018 22:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Maluna to Tųda Changes & Tųda Phonology

Moluna --> Tųda Sound Changes Here are the battery of sound changes. Notation: _ denotes the position of a phoneme + denotes morpheme boundary # denotes phonological word boundary ## denotes phonological phrase boundary Sound Change History: 1) Suffix Allomorphy: Raising across morpheme boundary: *...
by Santophrin
27 Jun 2018 11:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Historical Picture

Proto-Language Lexicon So, here is some more information about the proto-language, along with the whole current lexicon. Proto-Language: Maluna The proto-lang is called Maluna, [ˈma.lu.na]. It means 'rest'. It is only preserved in liturgical use, and the name comes from a main tenant of the religio...
by Santophrin
25 Jun 2018 11:25
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Re: Činlimli Nujmil

This looks like a promising exploration of theory for conlanging. I'm trying to use some historical sound change & analogical change to derive some weird irregularities, but mostly I wanted to toy with the idea of building a conlang from the syntax. 😲 wow 😯! 😎 cool 😎! Thanks! Now, I couldn't fi...
by Santophrin
25 Jun 2018 10:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Getic
Replies: 20
Views: 15282

Re: Getic

Clio, what you are doing here is the coolest thing ever. I have nothing intelligent to comment, but I just wanted to express appreciation with your historical linguistics-driven conlanging. I love the concept, mainly because I would do something similar, speculating what an IRL lostlang, specificall...
by Santophrin
23 Jun 2018 19:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil: Syntax 1

Syntax 1: Clausal Structure So, before I explain it, let me put in a diagram that shows the whole clausal structure: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1773/42040431815_2789f4e1ed.jpg First, let me explain what each phrase and syntactic head are, and then describe them in Činlimli Nujmil: CP: complemen...
by Santophrin
22 Jun 2018 23:42
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil: More Phonological Change

More Sound Change I had high hopes for myself, and sticking with a relatively simple phonology, but you know how it goes. I didn't quite aesthetically like the crushingly overwhelming CVC syllables, so I got nasalization and compensatory lengthening to get rid of CVN syllables and turn them into CV...
by Santophrin
22 Jun 2018 22:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Re: Činlimli Nujmil

I've really enjoyed following this thread! I particularly liked the bits of information you've already given about the proto-language's syntax (replete with bibliography no less) and the derived language's prosody. Those are definitely two aspects that don't seem to get much of the limelight in man...
by Santophrin
21 Jun 2018 21:39
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil Phonology

Phonology Phonemes stops: /p t ʧ k/ <p t č k> nasals: /m n ŋ/ <m n ŋ> liquids: /l/ <l> vowels: /i e a o u/ <i e a o u> Allophones stops: [b d ʤ g] <b d j g> (before liquid /l/) fricatives: [f s ʃ x] <f s š h> (word-finally) liquids: [l j ɫ] <l l> (palatalized before front vowels /i e/, velarized el...
by Santophrin
21 Jun 2018 14:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil Analogical Changes

Analogical Change Morphology The sound changes shape the morphological system. The Vowel Alternations triggered by high vowels have led to alternations in the same paradigm. I will call stems that ended in /a/ A-stems (ex: *puta-), /i/ I-stems (ex: *kaliti-), and /u/ U-stems (ex: *pupu-). The resul...
by Santophrin
19 Jun 2018 22:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil Sound Changes

Sound Changes Raising & Frontness Harmony: Low vowels raise before syllables containing high vowels and match frontness. a --> e / _Ci a --> o / _Co Apocope: Word-final Vowels are deleted. V --> 0 / _# This is quite a common change crosslinguistically, and has a phonetic & phonological moti...
by Santophrin
19 Jun 2018 19:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil Proto-Morphology

Proto-Language Morphology Nouns Nouns get suffixes for definiteness + number, and case. The proto-lang has three case-markings: nominative, accusative, and oblique. Oblique serves for locative, dative, genitive, and other meanings. Schema: root - def&num - case indef: -0 def.sg: -li def.pl: -la...
by Santophrin
19 Jun 2018 18:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil Proto-Typology & Syntax

Proto-Language Proto-Typology The proto-lang tended to be agglutinative, and suffixing. Now, I'll describe the syntactic headedness . If you don't quite know what that means, it is roughly about the ordering of things within a phrase, and the category of the phrase. The head is a 'lexical item' (ro...
by Santophrin
19 Jun 2018 17:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlimli Nujmil Proto-Phonology

Proto Language Proto-Phonology: stops | *p *t *k nasals | *m *n *ŋ liquids| *l high V | *i *u low V | *a Syllable: CV Primary stress is word-initial. Secondary stress is the first syllable of each disyllabic foot. See some examples below (each σ represents a syllable, ' is primary stress, " is...
by Santophrin
19 Jun 2018 16:47
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family
Replies: 18
Views: 5848

Činlim'li Nujmil: Conlang Family

Činlim'li Nujmil "The Words of the Roads" Proto-Language: Maluna Descendant 1: Činlim'li Nujmil Modern Form of Descendant 1: Čiilii'li Nužmil Descendant 2: Tųda Meta-info: This is mostly an attempt at a diachronically derived conlang. First attempt at a diachronic conlang. Also, I'll warn...
by Santophrin
22 Jan 2014 19:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread [2011–2018]
Replies: 5100
Views: 1035727

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Dezinaa wrote:
Creyeditor wrote: Do I see a nasalized voiceless bilabial fricative there?
Yes... is there something about that phoneme that cought your eye?
So... The velum is lowered and the nasal cavity is opened... In a voiceless bilabial fricative, its... certainly interesting.
by Santophrin
21 Jan 2014 11:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
Replies: 11605
Views: 2043901

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I determined recently that I'd like to have a volitional distinction be a mandatory part of verbs in Shijaam Tu. So far, <jaam> is the ending for verbs in which the subject has control over the action, and <jan> is the ending in which the subject does not have control. So, for instance, <manjaam> m...
by Santophrin
20 Jan 2014 10:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
Replies: 11605
Views: 2043901

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'll assume you aren't going for realism and refrain from commenting on your consonant inventory. If you change your tone diacritics to fit with Vietnamese, you get horns (hooks? I always forget which is which) and circumflexes that can combine with those diacritics. Otherwise, you're stuck with di...
by Santophrin
18 Jan 2014 19:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
Replies: 11605
Views: 2043901

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I am stuck with orthography, the vowels are quite challenging... This is what I have done until now: Consonants: /p p h b t t h d c c h ɟ ʔ m p m p h m b n t n t h n d ɲ c ɲ c h ɲ ɟ ɴ ʔ f mv fː mvː s mz sː mzː ç ɲʝ çː ɲʝː h ɴ ɹ̺ ŋ ɺ ɥ/ <p ph b t th d k kh g ' mp mph mb nt nth nd nk nkh ngg n' f mf f...
by Santophrin
18 Jan 2014 19:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Corporate Collab-Lang
Replies: 113
Views: 17111

Re: Corporate Collab-Lang

Question 13: Will animate nouns (those involving people) decline for Formality? It would be nice for speech to be different when addressing or mentioning kings, royalty or simply powerful people. I guess it would be a necessity to have some special way of conversing about high class because the peo...