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- 08 Dec 2020 04:53
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Does anyone else try and actually speak or pronounce their conlang or is it all on paper?
- Replies: 53
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Re: Does anyone else try and actually speak or pronounce their conlang or is it all on paper?
I always make sure I can pronounce everything in my conlangs. I use it as a kind of rule on what I’m “allowed” to have or not, and it helps me both shape the phonotactics of the language and practice my IPA pronunciation. Also, I’ve seen a couple conlangs here and there for which the phonemic/phonet...
- 07 Nov 2020 02:04
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
And that is WHY allophones are your best friend. Sure, but my reason for limiting myself to those precise sounds in the first place was specifically so that every phoneme would have one unambiguous pronunciation, so that a) spreakers would not need to learn how to produce any new sounds, even if th...
- 05 Nov 2020 18:54
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
My goal isn’t really to have a “naturalistic” phoneme inventory, though I do think it ended up being sufficiently naturalistic for my purposes. My dilemma is more along the lines of “Am I allowed to include the /p/ phoneme, even though not all languages in my list have it as-is, when my initial cons...
- 05 Nov 2020 03:45
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Frankly, I think /m/ is a handy substitute for: 1. being the ONLY nasal, 2. being the ONLY labial, and 3. being the strangely adorable completion to your series of "approximates." Not having a nasal ISN'T odd, but noting that there is ONE left insists that there were; no labial ISN'T odd,...
- 04 Nov 2020 05:46
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
A word that’s just VVV is possible, but as I said, I’m deriving my vocab from existing languages, so the conditions for it to happen are somewhat improbable. At the moment, only have about fifty words or so, since I only started recently, and I’m still considering whether to add the /p/ phoneme or n...
- 04 Nov 2020 01:32
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Most of my roots end up being three syllables, but this is an interlang, so I think my question is more along the lines of “Is having a /p~f/ phoneme acceptable considering the initial restrictions I imposed myself, and is it worth transgressing those restrictions in favour of having some roots be s...
- 04 Nov 2020 01:12
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
I’m curious why you stop at 6 or 7 consonants. PHOIBLE and UPSID list around 19 phonemes (I think!) that occur in over half the world’s languages — or, rather, half of their samples. I would have guessed a 12-consonant inventory might be just as good for your purpose. I believe you have a good reas...
- 04 Nov 2020 00:30
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
My syllable structure is strictly (C)V, with a handful of additional restrictions (such as /j/ can’t occur adjacent to /i/ so there can never be a minimal pair with /i.a/ vs /ija/ for instance), which might be another reason to have one additional phoneme.
- 03 Nov 2020 21:19
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
- Replies: 20
- Views: 4928
Question for a phonetically simple interlang
I’ve very recently started working on an interlang which is designed to be easily pronounceable for (I’d like to say) ~99% of people. For this, I went through the phonetic inventories of the top 91 languages by number of native speakers (I chose native speakers instead of total speakers, because I f...
- 26 Sep 2020 17:04
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Choosing the right words
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2529
Re: Choosing the right words
For the record, when I say “the perfect combination of phonemes to go along with the meaning”, I mean it in regards to that particular language, not in an absolute sense; if the word for “one thousand” is mŷr in one language, it can very well be sjang in another. I don’t think I’m gravitating toward...
- 25 Sep 2020 20:29
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Choosing the right words
- Replies: 10
- Views: 2529
Choosing the right words
Most of my conlangs aren’t very far along, because I struggle to decide on what the words should be on a basic phonetic level. It’s as though I feel that every word should somehow have the perfect combination of phonemes to go along with its meaning. In the words of Mark Rosenfelder, I can never dec...
- 21 Sep 2020 22:10
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Phonetically motivated sound changes
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2493
Re: Phonetically motivated sound changes
Consonant-Vowel-Interaction: Rounding of back vowels is lost except adjacent to labial consonants. Afterwards, either new labials emerge independently adjacent to unrounded vowels or new non-labials emerge independently adjacent to rounded vowels. Sometimes coronal consonants do not take part in th...
- 21 Sep 2020 19:02
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Phonetically motivated sound changes
- Replies: 14
- Views: 2493
Phonetically motivated sound changes
I was trying to come up with sound plausible sound changes for a conlang, in which I was hoping to include some typically non-European vowels, such as [ɨ], [ɯ], or [ɤ], but unlike most other vowels (like front rounded vowels for instance), I don’t feel confident enough to posit phonetically motivate...
- 20 Jan 2017 11:09
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: relative clause strategy
- Replies: 9
- Views: 2051
Re: relative clause strategy
It kind of reminds me of Quechua, in which relative clauses are transformed to take the form of a participle which modifies the main clause question. This system seems perfectly intuitive to me, but in this case, and considering your language is head-final (adjectives, etc. before the nouns they mod...
Re: Ussaria
Regarding the /z+h/-type sequences, the issue could be resolved by using diaritics, such as <ć ś ź> for /tʂ ʂ ʐ/. A less dramatic change might be to seperate such sequences with an apostrophe rather than a hyphen, according to your preferences in aesthetics.
- 07 Apr 2016 19:39
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Romanizations
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1146
Re: Romanizations
You could also post your phonology here or in the Romanization Game thread (less recommended) to see what other people come up with, and adopt the elements you happen to like.
- 17 Mar 2016 19:32
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Romanize this inventory
- Replies: 12
- Views: 3391
Re: Romanize this inventory
Here is one possibility: /p t̪ t̠ k q/ <p t ť k ǩ> /b d̪ d̠ g ɢ/ <b d ď g ǧ> /t͡s̪ t͡s̠ k͡x q͡χ/ <ts tš kx kx̌> /d͡z̪ d͡z̠ g͡ɣ ɢ͡ʁ/ <dz dž gv gv̌> /ɸ θ s̪ s̠ x χ/ <ph th s š x x̌> /β ð z̪ z̠ ɣ ʁ/ <bh dh z ž v v̌> /m n̪ n̠ ŋ ɴ/ <m n ň ŋ ŋ̌> /ɾ l/ <r l> /j w/ <j w> /i ɨ u/ <i y u> /e o/ <e o> /æ ɑ/ <æ...
- 02 Dec 2015 04:57
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Con-Script Development Centre
- Replies: 1180
- Views: 253886
Re: Con-Script Development Centre
Did you ever attempt to make a more calligraphic computer font for Chudihr? I'm sure it would look great. (I can't say I like the current angular one.) Have you tried writing with a pen or brush? Maybe it would inspire you.
Re: Ssikangul
I don't see why the construction "you and I" would be less naturalistic than "I and you" or vice versa. To me, the former definitely sounds better (from a purely aesthetic standpoint), and I suppose many people think so too. As for the politeness rule, maybe it just started withi...
Re: Ssikangul
It seems to me very unnaturalistic that a language should have two forms of "and" simply to avoid repetition. I too suggest that you choose different meanings for both words, such as general conjunction vs. combining two things which share a function, etc. In this case, say we applied the ...