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by Khunjund
08 Dec 2020 04:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Does anyone else try and actually speak or pronounce their conlang or is it all on paper?
Replies: 53
Views: 12935

Re: Does anyone else try and actually speak or pronounce their conlang or is it all on paper?

I always make sure I can pronounce everything in my conlangs. I use it as a kind of rule on what I’m “allowed” to have or not, and it helps me both shape the phonotactics of the language and practice my IPA pronunciation. Also, I’ve seen a couple conlangs here and there for which the phonemic/phonet...
by Khunjund
07 Nov 2020 02:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang

And that is WHY allophones are your best friend. Sure, but my reason for limiting myself to those precise sounds in the first place was specifically so that every phoneme would have one unambiguous pronunciation, so that a) spreakers would not need to learn how to produce any new sounds, even if th...
by Khunjund
05 Nov 2020 18:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang

My goal isn’t really to have a “naturalistic” phoneme inventory, though I do think it ended up being sufficiently naturalistic for my purposes. My dilemma is more along the lines of “Am I allowed to include the /p/ phoneme, even though not all languages in my list have it as-is, when my initial cons...
by Khunjund
05 Nov 2020 03:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang

Frankly, I think /m/ is a handy substitute for: 1. being the ONLY nasal, 2. being the ONLY labial, and 3. being the strangely adorable completion to your series of "approximates." Not having a nasal ISN'T odd, but noting that there is ONE left insists that there were; no labial ISN'T odd,...
by Khunjund
04 Nov 2020 05:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang

A word that’s just VVV is possible, but as I said, I’m deriving my vocab from existing languages, so the conditions for it to happen are somewhat improbable. At the moment, only have about fifty words or so, since I only started recently, and I’m still considering whether to add the /p/ phoneme or n...
by Khunjund
04 Nov 2020 01:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang

Most of my roots end up being three syllables, but this is an interlang, so I think my question is more along the lines of “Is having a /p~f/ phoneme acceptable considering the initial restrictions I imposed myself, and is it worth transgressing those restrictions in favour of having some roots be s...
by Khunjund
04 Nov 2020 01:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang

I’m curious why you stop at 6 or 7 consonants. PHOIBLE and UPSID list around 19 phonemes (I think!) that occur in over half the world’s languages — or, rather, half of their samples. I would have guessed a 12-consonant inventory might be just as good for your purpose. I believe you have a good reas...
by Khunjund
04 Nov 2020 00:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Re: Question for a phonetically simple interlang

My syllable structure is strictly (C)V, with a handful of additional restrictions (such as /j/ can’t occur adjacent to /i/ so there can never be a minimal pair with /i.a/ vs /ija/ for instance), which might be another reason to have one additional phoneme.
by Khunjund
03 Nov 2020 21:19
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Question for a phonetically simple interlang
Replies: 20
Views: 4928

Question for a phonetically simple interlang

I’ve very recently started working on an interlang which is designed to be easily pronounceable for (I’d like to say) ~99% of people. For this, I went through the phonetic inventories of the top 91 languages by number of native speakers (I chose native speakers instead of total speakers, because I f...
by Khunjund
26 Sep 2020 17:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Choosing the right words
Replies: 10
Views: 2529

Re: Choosing the right words

For the record, when I say “the perfect combination of phonemes to go along with the meaning”, I mean it in regards to that particular language, not in an absolute sense; if the word for “one thousand” is mŷr in one language, it can very well be sjang in another. I don’t think I’m gravitating toward...
by Khunjund
25 Sep 2020 20:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Choosing the right words
Replies: 10
Views: 2529

Choosing the right words

Most of my conlangs aren’t very far along, because I struggle to decide on what the words should be on a basic phonetic level. It’s as though I feel that every word should somehow have the perfect combination of phonemes to go along with its meaning. In the words of Mark Rosenfelder, I can never dec...
by Khunjund
21 Sep 2020 22:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Phonetically motivated sound changes
Replies: 14
Views: 2493

Re: Phonetically motivated sound changes

Consonant-Vowel-Interaction: Rounding of back vowels is lost except adjacent to labial consonants. Afterwards, either new labials emerge independently adjacent to unrounded vowels or new non-labials emerge independently adjacent to rounded vowels. Sometimes coronal consonants do not take part in th...
by Khunjund
21 Sep 2020 19:02
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Phonetically motivated sound changes
Replies: 14
Views: 2493

Phonetically motivated sound changes

I was trying to come up with sound plausible sound changes for a conlang, in which I was hoping to include some typically non-European vowels, such as [ɨ], [ɯ], or [ɤ], but unlike most other vowels (like front rounded vowels for instance), I don’t feel confident enough to posit phonetically motivate...
by Khunjund
20 Jan 2017 11:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: relative clause strategy
Replies: 9
Views: 2051

Re: relative clause strategy

It kind of reminds me of Quechua, in which relative clauses are transformed to take the form of a participle which modifies the main clause question. This system seems perfectly intuitive to me, but in this case, and considering your language is head-final (adjectives, etc. before the nouns they mod...
by Khunjund
02 Jan 2017 12:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Ussaria
Replies: 18
Views: 9980

Re: Ussaria

Regarding the /z+h/-type sequences, the issue could be resolved by using diaritics, such as <ć ś ź> for /tʂ ʂ ʐ/. A less dramatic change might be to seperate such sequences with an apostrophe rather than a hyphen, according to your preferences in aesthetics.
by Khunjund
07 Apr 2016 19:39
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanizations
Replies: 2
Views: 1146

Re: Romanizations

You could also post your phonology here or in the Romanization Game thread (less recommended) to see what other people come up with, and adopt the elements you happen to like.
by Khunjund
17 Mar 2016 19:32
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Romanize this inventory
Replies: 12
Views: 3391

Re: Romanize this inventory

Here is one possibility: /p t̪ t̠ k q/ <p t ť k ǩ> /b d̪ d̠ g ɢ/ <b d ď g ǧ> /t͡s̪ t͡s̠ k͡x q͡χ/ <ts tš kx kx̌> /d͡z̪ d͡z̠ g͡ɣ ɢ͡ʁ/ <dz dž gv gv̌> /ɸ θ s̪ s̠ x χ/ <ph th s š x x̌> /β ð z̪ z̠ ɣ ʁ/ <bh dh z ž v v̌> /m n̪ n̠ ŋ ɴ/ <m n ň ŋ ŋ̌> /ɾ l/ <r l> /j w/ <j w> /i ɨ u/ <i y u> /e o/ <e o> /æ ɑ/ <æ...
by Khunjund
02 Dec 2015 04:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Con-Script Development Centre
Replies: 1180
Views: 253886

Re: Con-Script Development Centre

Did you ever attempt to make a more calligraphic computer font for Chudihr? I'm sure it would look great. (I can't say I like the current angular one.) Have you tried writing with a pen or brush? Maybe it would inspire you.
by Khunjund
13 Feb 2015 02:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Ssikangul
Replies: 67
Views: 10726

Re: Ssikangul

I don't see why the construction "you and I" would be less naturalistic than "I and you" or vice versa. To me, the former definitely sounds better (from a purely aesthetic standpoint), and I suppose many people think so too. As for the politeness rule, maybe it just started withi...
by Khunjund
12 Feb 2015 01:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Ssikangul
Replies: 67
Views: 10726

Re: Ssikangul

It seems to me very unnaturalistic that a language should have two forms of "and" simply to avoid repetition. I too suggest that you choose different meanings for both words, such as general conjunction vs. combining two things which share a function, etc. In this case, say we applied the ...