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by Vlürch
11 May 2021 02:04
Forum: Games
Topic: Cyrillisation game #2
Replies: 76
Views: 11803

Re: Cyrillisation game #2

/p b t d tˤ dˤ k g kʷ gʷ ʔ/ <п б т д тӑ дӑ к ҝ кў ҝў ъ> /f v s z sˤ zˤ ʃ ʒ x ɣ xʷ ɣʷ h/ <ф в с з сӑ зӑ ш ж х г хў гў һ> /t͡ʃ d͡ʒ/ <ч ҹ> /m n nˤ ŋ ŋʷ/ <м н нӑ ң ңў> /ʋ~w l lˤ j/ <в л лӑ й> /r rˤ/ <р рӑ> /i ĩ u ũ/ <и иӎ у уӎ> /e ẽ o õ/ <э эӎ ө өӎ> /ɔ ɔ̃/ <о оӎ> /a ã/ <а аӎ> [ji jĩ ju jũ] <і іӎ ю юӎ> [...
by Vlürch
07 May 2021 19:23
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: PPIE
Replies: 10
Views: 274

Re: PPIE

(perhaps such is comparable to clicks being considered a primitive sound) Well, clicks are articulatorily complex sounds and that's probably why they're so rare. I don't think it's impossible that clicks existed in some absolutely insanely ancient "caveman" languages (although "cavemen" in the ster...
by Vlürch
06 May 2021 21:54
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 39
Views: 11174

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

Does anyone know if there are examples of this type of cluster in native vocabulary? There's tarttua ("to grab") that's been reconstructed as *tarttudak in Proto-Finnic, and possibly goes back to Proto-Uralic since Hungarian has tart ("to keep"). Also varttua ("to mature"), but apparently that's de...
by Vlürch
04 May 2021 21:13
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 39
Views: 11174

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

Japanese devoicing/dropping probably varies a lot, I think? No idea what the rules are for when there can be full dropping and when there can't, but it seems like it happens more with verbs than nouns? Maybe? I'm pretty sure I've heard eg. 分かりました (wakarimashita, "understood") with full dropping as [...
by Vlürch
04 May 2021 19:50
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Danish vowel allophony
Replies: 8
Views: 409

Re: Danish vowel allophony

Just mentioning that I've also noticed that more immigrants tend to speak Finnish than English, at least here in Roihuvuori. Although I'm not at all active in the community, even I can tell that between immigrants and non-immigrants, the language used by default isn't English but Finnish. Personally...
by Vlürch
14 Apr 2021 16:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm sorry, but you're not describing an issue with languages, you're describing a mental issue. I'm not saying that as an insult, but just so that we're clear that the only way to address the 'problem' you're having is with some form of reflection, self-help or therapy. There is no actual 'solution...
by Vlürch
14 Apr 2021 02:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

That's not good evidence! Not everything has to be about evidence, at least I'm still (mostly) talking about this because of conlanging reasons. I don't care whether Borean is real (but like I already said, I don't think it is; I think at least most of the languages are probably related to each oth...
by Vlürch
13 Apr 2021 15:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Is there a list of that symbolism or tendencies? Can you provide it? Not that I know of, but the reason things like Nostratic and even Borean can be reconstructed is that correspondences exist. Searching through the database of reconstructions of Nostratic or even Borean on Starostin's site just sh...
by Vlürch
13 Apr 2021 12:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Kind of an "abstract" question, but... The more I look into Nostratic and Borean and whatnot, the more I realise that regardless of whether or not the proposed macrofamilies were ever actually real or not, at least in Eurasia there seem to be some vague and elusive-to-the-point-of-probably-being-unq...
by Vlürch
07 Apr 2021 20:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 279
Views: 29496

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Just some kind of random phonology that I guess is maybe kinda like if Basque and Haida had a baby or whatever?

/m n̪ n̺ ŋ/ <m n ṇ ñ>
/p b t̪ t̺ k q ʡ ʔ/ <p b t ṭ k q ʿ ʾ>
/t̪͡s̪ t̺͡s̺/ <z ẓ>
/s̪ s̺/ <s ṣ>
/j w x ɣ ħ ʕ h/ <y w x g ḥ c h>
/r ʀ/ <r ṛ>
/l̪ ɬ̪ l̺ ɬ̺/ <l d ḷ ḍ>

/a e i o u/ <a e i o u>
by Vlürch
07 Apr 2021 16:24
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Just to clarify, are you saying the simplified hypothetical system of [æ, ɔ, ɪ̟, ʊ̠, ə] is neither naturalistic nor impossible, whereas the current system of [æ, ɑ, ɔ, œ, i, ɯ̠, ʊ̠, ʏ̟, ə] is both more naturalistic and more probable? Well, I think the latter is more naturalistic, since that's basic...
by Vlürch
07 Apr 2021 06:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

@Vlürch: That is exactly what I was looking for. The examples and your explanation of its usage make me much confident that I am not just mixing up everything including topic and focus. No problem, kinda funny because I thought it'd probably be completely pointless and unhelpful rambling haha. Teac...
by Vlürch
06 Apr 2021 02:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Another possibility is to pronounce <c g sc> as /t͡ʃ d͡ʒ ʃ/ in the syllable coda (or some similar condition, depending on the details). To get coda /k g sk/, you'd write <ch gh sch>. So /ibd͡ʒarʃt/ would be <ibgiarsct>; meanwhile, /ibd͡ʒarskt/ would be <ibgiarscht>. That does conflict with <c> /t͡s...
by Vlürch
04 Apr 2021 20:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does the language have diphthongs that end in /i/? It kind of does, but I feel like it makes more sense to think of it as coda /j/ since there are no diphthongs ending in /a e o u/ (at least yet, but it's possible I'll add them later). If not, you could got down a sort of Irish sort of Basque route...
by Vlürch
04 Apr 2021 05:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Not sure if this counts as a "quick question" since it's pretty long, but... I have a question about the plausibility of a language having this phonology and orthography when it's set in what's IRL Sardinia and Corscia in an alternative world where things are probably mostly similar to the IRL world...
by Vlürch
29 Mar 2021 19:26
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences
Replies: 804
Views: 195489

Re: False friends and other unfortunate coincidences

Sanskrit आर्य (ārya) /ˈɑːɾ.jɐ/ “noble, noble one” v.s. Proto-Finnic orja /ˈorjɑ/ "slave" At least commonly the Finnish term (also found in other Uralic languages) is considered a loanword from Proto-Indo-Iranian, because speakers of Proto-Uralic enslaved speakers of Proto-Indo-Iranian. So yeah, it'...
by Vlürch
26 Mar 2021 05:53
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 487
Views: 38775

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Could a house be considered an inalienable possession, if in traditional society, people didn't change houses? Probably? I don't know anything about natlangs with alienable and inalienable possession, but it'd make sense that it can be very language-dependent. If the culture has strong family struc...
by Vlürch
24 Mar 2021 01:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I would call it "the distal case". I considered that, but the feeling I had was that it would refer to something being far from the speaker and googling it, it's apparently a thing in at least Tsez and does refer to distance from the speaker. So it seems the easiest solution really would be calling...
by Vlürch
23 Mar 2021 04:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Distantive? (← *distō “I stand apart, afar”) That'd work! Thanks. Abessive is still valid as an analogy to adessive. But hmm... in that case, I guess maybe I really should just call it abessive and put a note like "im not like the other abessives!!!" and call the case that means "without" caritive,...
by Vlürch
23 Mar 2021 03:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 569
Views: 47877

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I thought I'd asked this before, but seems like I haven't: what would a grammatical case with the meaning "far from" be called? Like, for example, "far from the house". I'm pretty sure if it was formed analogously to other case names, it'd be called abessive, but that name is already used for the ca...