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Re: Othramic
The grammar of Liturgical Ohomic has grown increasingly simplified since the days of the Kingdom of Othramanur. The noun classes have largely been fossilized, and only three noun cases remain (ergative, oblique/absolutive, and genitive). The collective number has also disappeared, only remaining in ...
Re: Othramic
The Ohotans would later adopt a stylized variant of the Pelasgian writing system, as it was better suited to the phonology of their own language. For context, here is the writing system with its corresponding phonetic values in Ancient Pelasgian. Much like the OTL Greek script, it was derived from P...
Re: Othramic
Nope! I devised a script for Othramic, which I'll include here. Still need to come up with something for Ohomic though. /m n/ - <𐌌 𐌍> /pʰ p tʰ t kʰ k/ - <𐌐 𐌘 T 𐌈 𐌊 Ϙ> /t͡sʰ t͡s/ - <И 𐌆> /s h/ - <𐌔 𐌇> /ɹ/ - <𐌓> /i u e o ɑ/ - <𐌉 V 𐌄 𐌏 𐌀> And the ATL Etruscan alphabet for comparison, which is slightly ...
Re: Othramic
Interesting geographic context for an ogonek in your romanization? Was there a natlang inspiration? I mainly did it for aesthetic purposes, inspired by Polish and Old Church Slavonic. None of the languages in this region in this timeline would use the Latin script anyways, but I’d like to imagine n...
Re: Othramic
Liturgical Ohotic (Liturgical Ohomic: Pį Zaik Ohǫtą "The Holy Language of the Ohotans) was a descendant of Othramic which was spoken in the Kingdom of Hungary from 1600 AQ (787 AD) to 2000 AQ (1187 AD). After the Kingdom of Othramanur was conquered by the Rasnans, the region was subject to cult...
Re: Othramic
Thank you both! I sought inspiration from the languages of the Near East as well. I hope to develop this language a bit further, and then devise a medieval descendant of Othramic or two.
Othramic
Othramic (Othramic: Peni Oθramatan) was a language isolate spoken within the Kingdom of Othramanur in the northern Balkans. This language exists in an alternate timeline I've created on Reddit, where Indo-European peoples never expanded into Europe. Linguists have hypothesized connections to Vascon...
- 25 Jul 2024 03:19
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
/m mʲ n nʲ ɲ ŋ/ - <m my n ny nh q> /ᵐb ᵐbʲ ⁿd ⁿdʲ ⁿd͡ʒ ⁿd͡ʑ ᶮɟ ᵑg/ - <mb mby nd ndy nž nź nj ng> /pʰ p b pʰʲ pʲ bʲ tʰ t d tʰʲ tʲ dʲ t͡ʃʰ t͡ʃ d͡ʒ t͡ɕʰ t͡ɕ d͡ʑ cʰ c ɟ kʰ k g ʔ ʔʲ/ - <ph p b phy py by th t d thy ty dy čh č ž ćh ć ź ch c j kh k g x xy> /fʰ f fʰʲ fʲ sʰ s sʰʲ sʲ ʃʰ ʃ ɕʰ ɕ/ - <fh f fhy fy ...
- 28 Jun 2024 22:40
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
The grammar of Zinigric is quite analytic in comparison to other Celtic languages. Many noun and verb endings have been eroded, but many grammatical innovations have developed over the past few centuries. Pronouns and Verbs Like other languages in West Africa, Zinigric has developed pronouns that di...
- 19 Jun 2024 20:13
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Zinigric (Zinigric: Tomot Zinigri 1 ) is another Fortunatian language that is most notable for being the only of its kind still spoken in mainland Europe and Africa. It has around 50,000 speakers, who mainly live in Senegal, Mauretania, Mali, Morocco, and Niger. Of the Fortunatian languages, it is t...
- 19 Jun 2024 03:37
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Thank you! I'm glad other people on the CBB have taken an interest in this project. I plan to develop more daughter langs for Fortunatian once I have the time.
- 24 May 2024 16:37
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Nitipuan is also spoken in Portuguese colonies across the world, but mainly on the Brazilian coast. The dialect spoken here has undergone greater phonological shifts, and at times is hard to understand for inhabitants of Nitipua in the Old World. Here are some of the changes that the dialect has und...
- 24 May 2024 15:53
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
The primary word order in Nitipuan is VOS, unlike other Celtic languages spoken today, although VSO can be seen in highly formal contexts and archaic language. Due to the collapse of its phonemic inventory over the centuries, many noun, adjective, and verb endings were blurred together. This is best...
- 24 May 2024 07:24
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Now that I've come up with a basic framework for Fortunatian, I've been toying with one possible idea for a descendant language spoken in the Azores, or Nitipua 1 . Since they were at quite a distance from the major powers of Europe (as well as the other Fortunatian islands), the Nitipuans did not h...
- 21 May 2024 15:34
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Celtic historical linguistics
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Re: Celtic historical linguistics
All this also connects with the third question, the age of Celtic. Some scholars maintain the opinion that Proto-Celtic was the language of the Bell Beaker culture around 2500 BC, but I think that is too early. The degree of similarity between the Celtic languages around 1 AD points at a Proto-Celt...
- 21 May 2024 14:39
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
I have similar objections to other languages like Brithenig for that reason. Even though the only surviving Celtic languages (all of which happen to be Insular) exhibit those features, it doesn't mean that they all must be applied to Continental Celtic languages as well. I would expect Arvorec to r...
- 18 May 2024 22:16
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Fortunatian was a predominantly VSO language, a feature one could liken to other Q-Celtic languages (such as Old Irish). Does it show other Insular Celtic traits, such as initial mutations, absolute vs.conjunct verb inflection or "conjugated prepositions" as well, or does it avoid these, ...
- 18 May 2024 22:07
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Syntax Developing the syntax and grammatical rules of Fortunatian was, admittedly, a tough endeavor. The surviving corpus of Celtic languages varies wildly in terms of divergent verb systems and grammatical trends. As such, I was not sure what direction to take this in. Following my previous commen...
- 18 May 2024 17:42
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Fortunatian was a predominantly VSO language, a feature one could liken to other Q-Celtic languages (such as Old Irish). Does it show other Insular Celtic traits, such as initial mutations, absolute vs.conjunct verb inflection or "conjugated prepositions" as well, or does it avoid these, ...
- 18 May 2024 14:48
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Fortunatian Scratchpad
- Replies: 18
- Views: 2188
Re: Fortunatian Scratchpad
Fortunatian was a predominantly VSO language, a feature one could liken to other Q-Celtic languages (such as Old Irish). In the centuries after the Gallaecian migrations to the Fortunate Isles, the language underwent a great deal of changes in syntax. Like many other languages in Western Europe, it ...