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by Bob
11 Aug 2020 07:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

You know what? I may do some of the "The Rules of Acquisition" instead. I was actually going to do c 1800s maybe part Gypsy dieting proverbs from England. Really amazing stuff. I don't know, "The Rules of Acquisition" are not very wholesome. But I do love texts like this. I study ancient law codes e...
by Bob
11 Aug 2020 06:50
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Anyway, in the next day or two, I'm going to be studying this conlang, making notes, doing a translation into it, and writing up thoughts about it. From what I recently skimmed over of it, it does not look like a very extensive or well fleshed-out conlang. My approach to evaluating conlangs, though,...
by Bob
11 Aug 2020 06:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

I read some more of Elemtilas' recent reply and I think it needs to be said that in all his replies to my posts here on Conlang Bulletin Board or Zompist Bboard, he consistently does not carefully enough read what I write. And so his replies reflect many misunderstandings of what I have written. I s...
by Bob
11 Aug 2020 06:10
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

I did not. I private messaged people who did not get along with me in hopes of winning them over and they twisted what I wrote them and unfairly got me thrown off the group. I also made clear to the admins and the members that I wrote that I'm a recent immigrant from the Philippines to America, expl...
by Bob
11 Aug 2020 06:05
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

Replies to replies so far: ... ... ( Wait, it occurs to me that the Ferengi Language probably won't be as developed as what I and others have done for Vulcan. I'll just wing it as I go, though, it's not as much of a priority as expanding the grammar of Vulcan was. ) ... Khemehekis, 05 Aug 2020: Ah, ...
by Bob
11 Aug 2020 04:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

I have maybe one day to go before I finish translating the Vulcan text. Then I have until about Thursday to study the Ferengi Language and translate a short text into it. I wonder what the language is like. Then I also have to get all the typed-up part of my translations online. I'll get the (hand-w...
by Bob
08 Aug 2020 07:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

There wasn't even much about logographic writing systems in my BA Linguistics. I did it because I couldn't find much in the academic literature and thought it needed work. That's mostly the focus of all my research and conlanging, my 10 or so years of focusing on studying the 50 or so known logograp...
by Bob
08 Aug 2020 05:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

Unfortunately, this has to be a short reply, but it's similar to my response here . 1) Whatever problems you have of the ZBB, leave them there 2) Do not put words in the mouths of other people, or assume their motivations or intentions, and then proceed to present them as fact without evidence of t...
by Bob
08 Aug 2020 05:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

So many new replies to this one. I got to try to read these some other time. I took several days to expand the grammar of Vulcan, mostly grammatical subordination and coordination, and then I just started translating my short text into it. It's a mess because I can't find any glossed texts in Vulcan...
by Bob
08 Aug 2020 05:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

sangi39 wrote:
05 Aug 2020 20:13
Unfortunately, this has to be a short reply ...
Okay, I will try. I've been thinking about re-reading the website rules.
by Bob
05 Aug 2020 19:25
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

I wanted to quickly say that for my recent massive expansions of Vulcan Languages grammars, as usual, I'm using the 1997 book "Introduction to Typology" about linguistic typology by Whaley. I use this book a lot while conlanging. I actually just made grammar additions about grammatical subordination...
by Bob
05 Aug 2020 18:21
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

jimydog000 wrote:
05 Aug 2020 14:21
...
Also, there's only so much room in the title of the thread so I just try to identify Okrand Atlantean by saying it's by the creator of Klingon. And it seems at least some conlangers have heard of Klingon. But I'll try to add that to the opening of the thread.
by Bob
05 Aug 2020 18:18
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Wow, it looks completely different to what you hear in Little Green Men and the Enterprise episode I'm watching now. I just assumed the showrunners made it up. And Bob, can I criticise the way you start these threads? I would rather know what I'm looking at and some general information about the la...
by Bob
04 Aug 2020 19:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

Here's a nice song for the study of the Ferengi language, considering the above image and its episode. The episode was memorable to me because I'm very into Women's Studies. Frank Sinatra - Luck Be A Lady (Lyrics)Frank Sinatra - Luck Be A Lady (Lyrics), 1963 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUddYld-J...
by Bob
04 Aug 2020 18:56
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

Here's some music to go along with this post, for studying the Vulcan Languages and such. Whenever I do threads or posts, I usually include some song that's thematically or vocabulary relevant.

Lipps Inc. - Funkytown (lyrics), 1970s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liuCTk2nPG8
by Bob
04 Aug 2020 18:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

Optional New, Supplemental and Alternative Grammar for the Vulcan Languages Well, good news: I have created optional grammatical subordination rules for Vulcan. But they're hand-written so it might be a month or two before I share them here and elsewhere online. I based them conceptually on Klingon ...
by Bob
04 Aug 2020 18:40
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects
Replies: 37
Views: 966

Re: Klingon, Vulcan, and Mutsun: Quick Okrand Languages Translation Projects

I've merged "Comparison and Criticism of Klingon, Vulcan, Atlantean, and Mutsun* (Okrand Languages)" into "Comparison and Criticism of Klingon, Vulcan, Atlantean, and Mutsun* (Okrand Languages)". They don't seem to be different enough in terms of subject or content to warrant to separate threads. O...
by Bob
04 Aug 2020 04:06
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

This would be good to use as a text to translate into Ferengi but I want something more moving and classic than quotes from the tv series.

Ferengi Rules of Acquisition - Complete List*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFYBkesqGU
by Bob
04 Aug 2020 03:52
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

I'm not sure how critical this will come across as but your commentary essentially boiled down to "here's a conlang that appeared on a famous TV series, and it's been associated with some famous conlangers, and I think they should get some famous conlanger/s to work on it more, because it's famous"...
by Bob
04 Aug 2020 03:46
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995
Replies: 33
Views: 709

Re: Star Trek Ferengi Language by Timothy Miller and David Salo from 1995

... Oh, never mind, I think you misunderstand me. ( Also, don't get me started on writing systems because this is what I study and I'll just talk and talk about them and most people will not be able to follow what I'm saying. ) It's just easier when I'm writing scholarship to make up some digraph o...