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by Nortaneous
09 Jan 2022 03:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 864
Views: 131436

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Why not just allow (P F)(j w) and (P F N N̥)(j w)? You are basically suggesting C+glide clusters only? That is what I do in most of my langs and I find it very boring. typo - should read (P F)(m n) etc Couldn't those dialects just have /æ/ and /eə/? some do, some don't - I think /æw/-flattening end...
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 20:29
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 53
Views: 17471

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

In Hyman 2005, which Greyeditor linked a while ago. (16) Culminative glottalized and aspirated consonants in Cuzco Quechua (Parker 1997:2) a. root-controlled: occur only in roots, never in suffixes b. non-obligatory: occur in some roots, not in all c. culminative: may occur only once per root: *T'V...
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 20:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 864
Views: 131436

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I see the question was badly formulated. Probably the best answer is just to tell me that I'm far from as clear as I think I am. I made up a nice pattern for words. Then I, for some reason, decided that it has to have aspirated nasals. But it wasn't easy to add them and still make the system look n...
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 20:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Suggestion: A language for linguists
Replies: 22
Views: 733

Re: Suggestion: A language for linguists

For tenses, IIRC there was some research on using certain creoles with elaborate and regular tense/aspect systems for something involving machine translation with Bible-translation corpuses, but I've forgotten the details and can't find it now
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 06:54
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 603
Views: 91284

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

And iirc some Southerners there's a wire-war merger? I don't know if that's a derounding of 'war' or a rounding of 'wire', though. That's not something I've heard of before, but I'd expect a fire-far merger to be common in most places PRICE monophthongization has reached fixation. [I didn't know th...
by Nortaneous
06 Jan 2022 01:34
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 53
Views: 17471

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

In Hyman 2005, which Greyeditor linked a while ago. (16) Culminative glottalized and aspirated consonants in Cuzco Quechua (Parker 1997:2) a. root-controlled: occur only in roots, never in suffixes b. non-obligatory: occur in some roots, not in all c. culminative: may occur only once per root: *T'V...
by Nortaneous
06 Jan 2022 01:31
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 603
Views: 91284

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Rounding doesn't seem to be that salient back there, and rounding and derounding across time and between languages seems fairly common. Americans, for instance, just furiously deround every damn low vowel they come across. [PALM? No rounding. LOT? No rounding. CLOTH? No rounding. CAUGHT? No roundin...
by Nortaneous
14 Aug 2021 22:17
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: How do you say "bee" and "wasp" in Algic languages?
Replies: 30
Views: 2687

Re: How do you say "bee" and "wasp" in Algic languages?

Yurok: terwermers "bee, yellowjacket" Blackfoot: naamóó "bee", pokáámoiksi "small bees" (plural) Arapaho: koho'ok "bee, wasp" Cheyenne: háhnoma "bee" > tȧhpe'ȧséhahnoma "honeybee", heóvėháhnoma "wasp" Ojibwe: aamoo "bee, was...
by Nortaneous
10 Jul 2021 21:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 864
Views: 131436

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Are there any documented languages with a syllabic ŋ? yes, Cantonese Can apical vowels appear after palatals and/or retroflexes? that depends on what you mean by "apical vowels". fricated vowels can appear after palatals and retroflexes, yes - Nuosu allows the syllables /tsɿ tʂɿ tɕɿ/ - bu...
by Nortaneous
20 Jun 2021 18:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Урданорос/Urdanoros:: A Turkic-Influenced IE lang
Replies: 10
Views: 1232

Re: Үрйәнэрэс/Üryäneres: A Turkic-Influenced IE lang

First point: The original draft of the language was a Satem Tocharian, and all the stop series were to fuse. However, I wanted a voiced series to continue. Therefore, I made the following assumption: I would speculate that in Pre-Proto-Tocharian the plain voiced series fused first, and it also unde...
by Nortaneous
20 Jun 2021 18:03
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 53
Views: 17471

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

I believe I read somewhere about an Australian Aboriginal language that requires a coda consonant but I couldn’t find anything when I searched with those terms. There are plenty of languages that require coda consonants - Aslian requires word codas and English at one point required codas in stresse...
by Nortaneous
02 Jun 2021 03:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 357
Views: 66337

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

/b d k/
/m n ŋ/
/v~w s ɣ~g/
/ɾ j/

/ɛ a ɔ/
/ɯ̆ ʌ̆/
[e o i u] < /ʌ̆j ʌ̆v ɯ̆j ɯ̆v/, [pp tt] < /bb dd/
stress on final nonshort vowel, except final /ɯ̆/ can sometimes bear stress (and be realized as nonshort)
CVC
by Nortaneous
23 May 2021 18:04
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: The longest and the shortest word in your conlang
Replies: 26
Views: 5951

Re: The longest and the shortest word in your conlang

Amqoli: /tʃihaʃtibʒ/ "cloudy" /a/ "take, have" Hlu: /ʄaŋniɬ/ "north", /tʰɤpjɯs/ "kind of tea", /kʰɯjwet/ "otherwise" no V words but plenty of CV words Kannow: /kʷipikʷtsʷʼəːw/ "ink" /waw/ "water" (shortest noun; verbs can never ap...
by Nortaneous
07 May 2021 04:00
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: PPIE
Replies: 10
Views: 1605

Re: PPIE

yes, Roland Pooth and various other people at Leiden breathy voiced consonants without the accompanying voiceless set also attested in Cao Bang (hence the "Cao Bang theory" for pre-PIE) a horizontal vowel system with ablaut probably actually vertical (*a *e = a ə) with a later chain shift,...
by Nortaneous
06 May 2021 18:44
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 402
Views: 181114

Re: English Orthography Reform

More sound changes: - syncope of unstressed vowels ('cabinet' with two syllables) or spelling-driven hypercorrection ('Everest' with three syllables) - ktʃ > kʃ (in e.g. 'picture' - I can't think of any words with /gdʒ/, so don't know if it happens there) - /ɛ/ in 'can', 'catch', 'am' "Catch&qu...
by Nortaneous
06 May 2021 03:18
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 402
Views: 181114

Re: English Orthography Reform

from, of, what, because; for some speakers also somebody, anybody, nobody Oh, thanks - I knew those (though I'd forgotten 'because'), but I assumed there were more. Wait, apparently also "was"? Also "was". I think "because" isn't universal. (Spelling pronunciation?) (m...
by Nortaneous
05 May 2021 18:51
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 402
Views: 181114

Re: English Orthography Reform

I guess. To me, the /I/ in 'American' is as far as possible from schwa, whereas the /I/ in 'destroy' is very close to it. But I'm not an American. Are there Americans who have this the other way around? I guess they might, since there's a good reason to 'strengthen' the latter in theory (initial sy...
by Nortaneous
05 May 2021 16:27
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: English Orthography Reform
Replies: 402
Views: 181114

Re: English Orthography Reform

Small mistake, though: you have the weak vowel merger in words like "Omerokon" (tangent: why mark schwa before /n/, but not before /l/?), but you don't have it in words like "disuyded" or "distiqgwish"... (should be either "disuyded" and "Omerikon" ...
by Nortaneous
05 May 2021 00:46
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 603
Views: 91284

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Has anyone made a new orthography for English, where, if you see a written word, its spelling always tells exactly how it's pronounced, and if you hear a word, its sounds always tell exactly how it's spelled? In other words, you don't have to memorize both spelling and pronunciation. 𐐷𐐯𐑅 𐑅𐐲𐑋 𐐹𐐨𐐹𐑊 𐐨...
by Nortaneous
03 May 2021 18:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 357
Views: 66337

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

here is the cursed phoneme inventory of Bakhzon Rau p t k q b d̪ dz̠ gʲ ɢ m n ŋ ɬ s ʃ x χ a e ʌ o i ɯ + high, low, rising tones; all non-dorsal consonants also have palatalized variants Proto-Rau was probably something like p t ƛ c k b d λ ɟ g m n ŋ s ɬ ɕ x r l j a ə i u aː iː uː (there are also cli...