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I just want to say thank you, vo1dwalk3r, for the declension tables. I really love the way everything is turning out, especially the irregularities of the noun declensions. You're welcome! It's actually kind of addicting applying the sound changes and seeing how everything turns out. I'll try to ke...

Okay, I've set up some declension tables for the various types of nouns show here on Wikipedia. There's a lot of irregularity and complexity to be leveled, which should be fun, but I've left everything intact for now. One thing I will say I like is the differentiation between nouns with accent on th...

21. a 22. b + Frislander's suggestion below; postalveolars retracted to retroflex 23. a 24. a 25. e —something weight based; I'm thinking first syllable, unless second syllable is heavier, in which V < V ( C …) < V̄ < V̄ ( C …) (diphthongs count as long), so you get ník.taum , pa.dís , dʒo.stíu but ...

It seems like vo1dwalk3r and I got some different results. For example, rī́dʒ and íʃwas vs. rī́tʃ and aʃwas. I did make a mistake with íʃwas , but it seems that there is a bit of discrepancy between the Wiktionary and Wikipedia reconstructions. I suggest we stick with what's given on Wiktionary jus...

Please tell me if you want the sound changes differently than I've written them here! bʰ dʰ ǵʰ gʰ gʷʰ > pʰ tʰ ḱʰ kʰ kʷʰ ḱʰ ḱ ǵ > tʃʰ tʃ dʒ kʷʰ kʷ gʷ > kʰ k g e > a / _h₂, h₂_ e > o / _h₃, h₃_ PH > Pʰ SH > S̄ H > ∅ Pʰ…Pʰ > P…Pʰ S̩ > Sǝ pʰ tʰ tʃʰ kʰ > f θ ʃ x sʃ ʃs > ʃʃ / V_V sʃ ʃs > ʃ tʃy dʒy ʃy ʒy ...

Oh, right, okay. So this is this affricates + any sonorant, or only affricates + liquids/liquids and nasals? I'd prefer the latter, so we can preserve dʒw.

16. a, but other options:
a2, b2: Glides fortite after plosives
17. c, with ʃy > ɕ and dʒ > dʑ
18. Vlürch's suggestion, but with ō > au̯, ǝ̄ > ā and unaccented o > a.
19. a
20. a

Yeah, I tend to agree, voting in the thread allows for more flexibility, I think. I'm open to other options though.

Definitely assimilate those sibilants, but if we're applying Grassmans Law how can we get θx clusters? Surely the first consonant would deaspirate giving tx ? Oh right, yeah. Hm, Honestly I'd prefer the first glide to undergo fortition, e.g. áwyes > ábyes , ágyes and déywos > dédwos , dédʒwos , tho...

So I've been trying to work out the details of genitive phrases and the like in Ȧbhannı. I've ended up with two cases, possessive and partitive, which serve various functions (including those suggested by their names). A little quirk of these cases is that the possessive is head marking (i.e. arm-PO...

X. I say we keep θx , but we could do something with sʃ / ʃs . The easiest thing would be to assimilate both to ʃ ( ʃʃ intervocalically). I also propose we do wl wr > ml mr , bl br , gl gr , or alternatively w > v . Ooh, here's another idea: glides fortite(?) to plosives after glides, so áwyes > áwd...

Hmm, I'm not sure how I feel about going with my sound change assumptions. They're pretty boring, but if you guys are fine with sticking with them, so am I. Yes, I know what all of those words mean. I should have been more direct about what's unclear to me. I don't know what you mean by "retain...

11. b 12. b 13. Cǝ 14. a 15. a (Looks like Shimo beat me to it [:O]) Making some assumptions about the sound changes (O=plosive/affricate, S=sonorant). We don't have much yet so it's still very much like PIE. bʰ dʰ ǵʰ gʰ gʷʰ > pʰ tʰ ḱʰ kʰ kʷʰ ḱʰ ḱ ǵ > tʃʰ tʃ dʒ kʷʰ kʷ gʷ > kʰ k g e > a / _h₂, h₂_ e ...

5. a
6. b
7. Have a small "older layer" of Mesopotamian words, but have most borrowings be Caucasian
8. c
9. b + Vowel coloring, consonant devoicing and aspiration (à la Sanskrit).

Agh, I'm way to wishywashy about this kind of stuff. I've decided not to develop Ȧbhannı has an conlang for a conworld but just as a personal language. Maybe once I'm more confident in my skills I'll try my hand at "true" diachronic conlanging. Regardless, my reconstruction of Old Ȧbhannı ...

This has been tried before but I'm interested in participating in a collablang. Also, what do you mean by "weekly"?

1. a
2. a
3. c
4. d

Curious, what do you guys do to come up with interesting semantics? I often struggle to come up with unique, multifaceted and nuanced definitions for my words. I'm also considering them from a historical perspective. I use the conlanger's thesaurus and Wiktionary to help but it's still tricky.

Ok ok, I've finally figured out Old Ȧbhannı (now Haʔpuhannı) phonology and the diachronics to modern Ȧbhannı: /mʲ mˠ nʲ nˠ/ ⟨ ḿ m ń n ⟩ /pʲ pˠ kʲ k ʔ/ ⟨ ṕ p ḱ k ʔ ⟩ /sʲ sˠ h/ ⟨ ś s h ⟩ /ɾʲ ɾˠ j w/ ⟨ ŕ r w y ⟩ /i ɯ ǝ a/ ⟨ ı u ǝ a ⟩ /ǝɪ̯ aɪ̯/ ⟨ əı aı ⟩ Stress is exclusively word-initial. Glides occur ...

Okay, I think I've gotten far enough on Ȧbhannı that it's time to start over. :D But to be serious, this is a problem of mine. If I work too long on a conlang, particularly if I'm going for naturalism, it starts to feel "topheavy" and frustrating and unmotivating. So I want to start over (...

Ah, right. The vocative has a normal (i.e. Latin-esque) use, but when the subject of a clause is put in the vocative case and placed before the verb, this forms an imperative mood clause. Now, instead of negating the verb in this case, you use the negative vocative ending.