Wkipedia knows it better than me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supine
Romance future is a classical example of grammaticalization. (I think Meillet used it.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammaticalization (Phonetic erosion in the article.)
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- 22 Jan 2013 12:00
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Romlang sound changes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4171
- 22 Jan 2013 11:48
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: CBB Conlang Relay III
- Replies: 61
- Views: 30750
Re: CBB Conlang Relay III
Heh, it seems that some tasks were much easier than some others.
One was hand-written. One messed the concept of word and another the concept of clause.
One was hand-written. One messed the concept of word and another the concept of clause.
- 21 Jan 2013 20:59
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
- Replies: 205
- Views: 88483
Re: Omzinian Scrap-thread: Project I
My newest project: Qhe´`a:g Phonology bilabial dental palatal velar uvular glottal nasal: /m/ <m> /n/ <n> /ŋ/ <ṅ> ‘nasal affricate’*: /m~/ <mx> /n~/ <nx> /ŋ~/ <n> affricate: /p͡φ/ <px/bx> /t͡θ/ <tx/dx> /k͡x/ <kx/gx> /qχ/ <qx/ĝx> plosive: /p/ <p/b> /t/ <t/d> /k/ <k/g> /q/ <q/ĝ> /ʔ/ <´/`> spirant: /φ/...
- 21 Jan 2013 20:58
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Omzinian Scrap thread
- Replies: 205
- Views: 88483
Omzinian Scrap thread
It's better to look at the last message!
- 21 Jan 2013 20:16
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
- Replies: 7086
- Views: 1322087
Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
The father, proud of his daughter, cheered. Perfectly possible, though "proud" here isn't in an attributive position. You can use an NP this way as well: The father, a complete moron, decided to rip off his pants and run around the theater. But there is a complimentary distribution, howev...
- 21 Jan 2013 19:19
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: What languages influence your conlangs?
- Replies: 129
- Views: 26423
Re: what languages influence your conlangs?
Vtain has a SAE phonology, almost identical to Latin, (or used to have before I added lateral fricatives). Its phonotax resambles, or is inspirated by, the Slavonic langs. Its morphology also somewhat resambles slavonic langs, though I replaced the palata/velar distinction with simple a voice disti...
- 21 Jan 2013 19:12
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Does your conlang satisfy you?
- Replies: 38
- Views: 8030
Re: Does your conlang satisfy you?
Kàhicáli phonology is wonderful (though I still straggle with nuances). Morphology would be very good, if I found patience to make it to what I want. But I'm very unsatisfied with the syntax. It's just words following each other. There is no structure. That's often the problem with polysynthetic lan...
- 21 Jan 2013 18:01
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
- Replies: 7086
- Views: 1322087
Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
English forbids several things that are normally allowed with adjectives while the adjective is in attributive position. *The too big ball rolled down the hill. (OK: "The ball that was too big rolled down the hill.") *The proud of his daughter father cheered. (OK: "The proud father c...
- 21 Jan 2013 17:39
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
- Replies: 11605
- Views: 2053001
Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
I'm using <q> in my orthography for / k͡p /. What digraph(s) should I use for / ɡ͡b ɠ͡ɓ / ? Qg, Gq, Bq, Qb ? Is that on answer to my question: How to write k͡p in an ortography? k and p are phonemes themselves, so kp or pk is ambiquous. How to mark the diphthong k͡pʍ then? At the end, I decided not...
- 21 Jan 2013 09:37
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Romlang sound changes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4171
Re: Romlang future tense
And another question: What's another way I can derive a future tense for verbs? I'm going to use vemile (to come) instead of the word for "to go" as far as the analytic way to form it, but how about inflections? I want it to be sort of unique or rare among Romance languages while maintain...
- 20 Jan 2013 10:39
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Romlang sound changes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4171
Re: Romlang sound changes
Normally, the most frequent form is generalized for all the form in a paradigm. It can well be that 'night' appears more frequently in the accusative: "Good night, spend my night..."; and wolf, being an animate noun, in the nominative. Theoritically, anything can be borrowed. Greek was the...
- 19 Jan 2013 09:23
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: favorite exant and extinct natlang
- Replies: 21
- Views: 5465
Re: favorite exant and extinct natlang
Existing: Now, I am very interested in Arabic. Though it's very questionable what the status of standard Arabic is, as an existing language.
Extinct: I say Ubykh. I don't know much about the language, just that it is my favourite.
Extinct: I say Ubykh. I don't know much about the language, just that it is my favourite.
- 19 Jan 2013 09:19
- Forum: Language Learning & Non-English
- Topic: Language practice thread
- Replies: 6104
- Views: 1012863
Re: Language practice thread
Nie może ścinać słowo. Nie mają głowy. Man kann nicht ein Wort enthaupten. Sie hat keine Köpfe. You can't decapitate a word. They don't have heads. Ich wieß nicht, ob "Kopf" auf Deutsch oder "głow" auf Polisch ein linguistischer Therm ist. Das finnische Wort "pää" ist ...
- 16 Jan 2013 20:59
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Romlang sound changes
- Replies: 16
- Views: 4171
Re: Romlang sound changes
Which Latin has /u:/, /u/ and, /ʊ/?
- 15 Jan 2013 17:43
- Forum: Language Learning & Non-English
- Topic: Suomen kielen keskusteluketju | Finnish Conversation Thread
- Replies: 177
- Views: 149991
Re: suomi
Eihän nyt toki! Kielen hyvyys ja huonous riippuu täysin siitä, mihin sitä vertaa ja mitä haluaa sanoa. Ihanhan tuo kieliopillisesti oikein on. Tietysti ulkomaalaisten suomi on kankeaa ja formaalia, kuten suomalaisten ulkomaan kielikin. Itse mietin, olisiko arabiani jo niin hyvää (siis ei aivan niin ...
Re: amʔha
Back to business. I guess that is the same language. Why is "anga" written "naka" (if that were Arabic)? ک = k (arabic alphabet) گ = g ( used to write [g] in persian) The main thing I meant is that an Arabic word cannot begin with a vowel. It nees the glottal stop at the beginnin...
Re: Kudšlaxēn
A moderator maybe makes a new thread for this. Labiovelar : [ɰʷ]. This is more simply written with [w] I was wrong. I read about co-articulations (Clark and Yallop, An Introduction to Phonetics and Phonoly). I don't still guarantee I'm right. It really seems that C w is the marking for POST-labializ...
Re: Cateleo
What are the interesting innovations compared to Latin or the other Romance langs?
Re: Kudšlaxēn
Which theory of Proto-Semitic do you use? I've thought Proto-Semitic did not have mid-vowels. \ Kudšlaxēn stems from Proto-Semitic, Kudšlaxēn isn't a dialect of Proto-Semitic. But Proto-Semitic did not have /e/. You derive sounds from Proto-Semitic /e/, so you say there was one in P-S. So, I though...
Re: Kudšlaxēn
Labiovelar : [ɰʷ]. This is more simply written with [w] /a/ and /ä/ do not contrast in any language. Phoneme theory handles them as the same phoneme. Why not /a~ä/ vs. /ɑ/ instead? Why don't you have the lovely /ʕ/? Which theory of Proto-Semitic do you use? I've thought Proto-Semitic did not have mi...