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by Nortaneous
22 Mar 2022 01:16
Forum: Games
Topic: Guess The Language 2
Replies: 117
Views: 56428

Re: Guess The Language 2

opipik wrote: 16 Mar 2022 12:48 Very obviously Grassfields, but besides that I have no clue.
depends on how you define Grassfields
by Nortaneous
14 Mar 2022 13:57
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Morphological Operations without Morphemes
Replies: 13
Views: 1574

Re: Morphological Operations without Morphemes

Conlangers don't get into tonal morphology so much, I think because tone is much more recent in East Asia (where documentation is much more readily available) than in any(?) linguistic region of subsaharan Africa, so hasn't had time to accrete into as many weird morphological operations. Larry Hyman...
by Nortaneous
14 Mar 2022 13:47
Forum: Games
Topic: Guess The Language 2
Replies: 117
Views: 56428

Re: Guess The Language 2

Wə̀ jə̀ ə́ ŋmu᷇ kú ŋkúŋ, tá ké má à sé, wə̀ jə̀ ə́Ʒi᷇ kə̀kpàn kə̀ ɲúə̄ nə́ kíə̀. Ŋkúŋ á bi᷄ nà á Ʒí ɲìà. Wə̀ ā sīnə́ gɛ ᷄ ná kə̀kpàn ŋkúŋ á gɛ́ nā ja̋ mī bá kə̀dú. Mbàŋkə̀bɔ́ŋ á fə́sə́ kə̀kpàn á ja̋ ŋkúŋ wō, wǎ jí. Ká wə̀ ŋmú fə́lə́ wǎ gɛ́ á dzɔ́ŋ wɛ́ ɲū kə́ túə̄fə.
by Nortaneous
11 Mar 2022 02:48
Forum: Games
Topic: Guess The Language 2
Replies: 117
Views: 56428

Re: Guess The Language 2

Notable traits: - Labial-velars - /gl/ - Final consonants: <n ŋ ʼ> - Vowels: /a ɛ ʌ ɔ e ɤ o i ɯ u/ - Contrastive vowel length? - Five level tones? Probably Mande or weird Bantoid. Dan? (But a different dialect from the one described on WIkipedia - maybe Kla-Dan? The Kla-Dan in Makeeva 2013 looks pre...
by Nortaneous
08 Mar 2022 03:40
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1110
Views: 282845

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Thank you for your well-thought-out reply, Salmoneus. And I was surprised to hear that linguistics is more susceptible to pseudoscience than psychology. (There isn't enough consensus for Wikipedia to classify it as pseudoscience, but many scholars/academics, for instance, consider Freud's psychoana...
by Nortaneous
02 Mar 2022 02:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Omzinesý's Germanic Lang
Replies: 8
Views: 1353

Re: Omzinesý's Germanic Lang

Come to think about it Chemnitz only has /p t k/ too, with no contrast in voicing at all. and /kʰ/, but no **/pʰ tʰ/ Also its k~t merger before l is spicy! this happened in certain dialects of English - <cl gl> [tl dl] was even listed as a regular pronunciation rule in an early version of Webster's...
by Nortaneous
25 Feb 2022 22:31
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 570
Views: 155566

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

I am curious, is one of the major differences between these two sister languages a matter of the region, C(w j), in one, being the equivalent of diphthongs in the other? Basically, "C(w j)V = CV(w j)." Western /ɛj ɔw/ generally correspond to Central /jə wə/, but the other Western diphthon...
by Nortaneous
21 Feb 2022 00:58
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 570
Views: 155566

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Central Ziwan: /p b t d ts dz tʂ dʐ k g/ /f s ʂ x/ /m n̪ n ɳ ŋ/ /j w/ Clusters: C(j)(w) Vowels: /a ə i u/ + nasality /kwų̄twâ njə̄ tjì jwų́ɳwą̄ kwājə̄ tʂą̂mwą̄jə̨̄ játə̨́ || njwə̄tʂìjə játə̨́ twā kwâjə̄ pjə̨̂njə̄ kwų̄twâ/ Western Ziwan: /p b̥ mb t d̥ nd ts d̥z̥ ndz tʃ d̥ʒ̥ ndʒ k g̥ ŋg q ɢ̥ ɴɢ/ /f θ ...
by Nortaneous
13 Feb 2022 04:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: An Unusual Orthography (Concept)
Replies: 12
Views: 1761

Re: An Unusual Orthography (Concept)

I've been toying with the idea of, as you say, marking some morphological distinction through an MOA change descending from a prefix, but I'm not sure I'll go through with that - Old Lajhoran I think was probably pretty isolating, so I'm not sure what distinction would be appropriate. As a referenc...
by Nortaneous
05 Feb 2022 20:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: An Unusual Orthography (Concept)
Replies: 12
Views: 1761

Re: An Unusual Orthography (Concept)

hm, if writing is old enough in the Allosphere I could steal this for Zzyxwqnp, although I'm not sure what the writing situation is That's just in Lhasa Tibetan, though (and only one dialect, I think). Other Tibetic languages, some of which I think still, like Lhasa, basically write as if they're wr...
by Nortaneous
09 Jan 2022 03:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347868

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Why not just allow (P F)(j w) and (P F N N̥)(j w)? You are basically suggesting C+glide clusters only? That is what I do in most of my langs and I find it very boring. typo - should read (P F)(m n) etc Couldn't those dialects just have /æ/ and /eə/? some do, some don't - I think /æw/-flattening end...
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 20:29
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 60
Views: 25264

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

In Hyman 2005, which Greyeditor linked a while ago. (16) Culminative glottalized and aspirated consonants in Cuzco Quechua (Parker 1997:2) a. root-controlled: occur only in roots, never in suffixes b. non-obligatory: occur in some roots, not in all c. culminative: may occur only once per root: *T'V...
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 20:29
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347868

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I see the question was badly formulated. Probably the best answer is just to tell me that I'm far from as clear as I think I am. I made up a nice pattern for words. Then I, for some reason, decided that it has to have aspirated nasals. But it wasn't easy to add them and still make the system look n...
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 20:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Suggestion: A language for linguists
Replies: 22
Views: 2387

Re: Suggestion: A language for linguists

For tenses, IIRC there was some research on using certain creoles with elaborate and regular tense/aspect systems for something involving machine translation with Bible-translation corpuses, but I've forgotten the details and can't find it now
by Nortaneous
07 Jan 2022 06:54
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1110
Views: 282845

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

And iirc some Southerners there's a wire-war merger? I don't know if that's a derounding of 'war' or a rounding of 'wire', though. That's not something I've heard of before, but I'd expect a fire-far merger to be common in most places PRICE monophthongization has reached fixation. [I didn't know th...
by Nortaneous
06 Jan 2022 01:34
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Languages with interesting phonotactics
Replies: 60
Views: 25264

Re: Languages with interesting phonotactics

In Hyman 2005, which Greyeditor linked a while ago. (16) Culminative glottalized and aspirated consonants in Cuzco Quechua (Parker 1997:2) a. root-controlled: occur only in roots, never in suffixes b. non-obligatory: occur in some roots, not in all c. culminative: may occur only once per root: *T'V...
by Nortaneous
06 Jan 2022 01:31
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1110
Views: 282845

Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Rounding doesn't seem to be that salient back there, and rounding and derounding across time and between languages seems fairly common. Americans, for instance, just furiously deround every damn low vowel they come across. [PALM? No rounding. LOT? No rounding. CLOTH? No rounding. CAUGHT? No roundin...
by Nortaneous
14 Aug 2021 22:17
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: How do you say "bee" and "wasp" in Algic languages?
Replies: 30
Views: 5518

Re: How do you say "bee" and "wasp" in Algic languages?

Yurok: terwermers "bee, yellowjacket" Blackfoot: naamóó "bee", pokáámoiksi "small bees" (plural) Arapaho: koho'ok "bee, wasp" Cheyenne: háhnoma "bee" > tȧhpe'ȧséhahnoma "honeybee", heóvėháhnoma "wasp" Ojibwe: aamoo "bee, was...
by Nortaneous
10 Jul 2021 21:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347868

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Are there any documented languages with a syllabic ŋ? yes, Cantonese Can apical vowels appear after palatals and/or retroflexes? that depends on what you mean by "apical vowels". fricated vowels can appear after palatals and retroflexes, yes - Nuosu allows the syllables /tsɿ tʂɿ tɕɿ/ - bu...
by Nortaneous
20 Jun 2021 18:12
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Урданорос/Urdanoros:: A Turkic-Influenced IE lang
Replies: 10
Views: 1773

Re: Үрйәнэрэс/Üryäneres: A Turkic-Influenced IE lang

First point: The original draft of the language was a Satem Tocharian, and all the stop series were to fuse. However, I wanted a voiced series to continue. Therefore, I made the following assumption: I would speculate that in Pre-Proto-Tocharian the plain voiced series fused first, and it also unde...