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- 13 Jan 2020 20:03
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
I found these articles through Wikipedia links and partly from Googling. Then a Swedish conlanger shared some pdf's on ConWorkshop.
- 13 Jan 2020 14:35
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
a perfective in -si (<-zi, troublesome devoicing?) corresponding to Com. Turkic -p In Chuvash it's -sA in affirmative and -sAr in negative, which is the original form. The origin of this is also unclear per se Levitskaya; some speculated a Uralic origin, while other suggest being cognate to Common ...
- 12 Jan 2020 18:16
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
The Nagy-Szent-Miklos vase inscription is considered by some as Avar (see the paper I cited above, Аварская надпись на сосуде из клада Надь-Сент-Миклош ), and had a totally different interpretation (albeit Oghuric). The interpretation by Mudrak: buila. ʒ́o apan. tesi. žɨGetöGi; buta ul. ʒo apan. t...
- 10 Jan 2020 16:49
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
(note : the -r suffix becomes -t after stems ending in n, l, or t (kĕttĕm from kĕr- 'enter') -t patalalises in turn to -č (kĕččĕ). IIRC the Chuvash past suffix is -t after n, l and r and -r otherwise; how come it's -r after all other voiceless consonants? Chuvash d>r only works between vowels, does...
- 10 Jan 2020 16:29
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
If it were *ilč-le-bi, the modern reflex would've been -v- Instead of -p. In Bulgar, the nominative 1sg and 2sg was *bi/be and *si/se, the latter case coinciding with the oblique stem. It's unknown whether this is a conservative feature or an innovation. Chuvash esě doesn't show palatalization on s,...
- 10 Jan 2020 15:30
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
I mean TMA, tense, mood and aspect. How to construct the present tense is a question: Turkic languages use various strategies. I read a German paper titled ZUM PRÄSENS DER NORDWESTLICHEN UND MITTELASIATISCHEN TÜRKSPRACHEN by LARS JOHANSON, but became more puzzled. It seems that a common strategy in ...
- 08 Jan 2020 14:46
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
There's also a Rovas/Hungarian Runiform orthography for this conlang, but it is obsolete now, mostly used as a sign of nationalism and ethnic identity, or as decoration. Unfortunately, I have no input method of Rovas nor a font with this script. Besides, verb conjugation is still difficult for me to...
- 08 Jan 2020 10:00
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
- Views: 15774
Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
If this migration did take place it must've happened fairly early (before the middle of the first millenium A.D.). Graham Thurgood dated that event after the sack of Indrapura in 982. In addition, how possible is it for a Papuan language to be carried to Africa and Australia by sailors? The Papuan ...
- 07 Jan 2020 09:07
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Ideas for African Chamic conlanging
- Replies: 14
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Re: Ideas for African Chamic conlanging
The Papuan Language of Tambora Author(s): Mark Donohue Source: Oceanic Linguistics, Vol. 46, No. 2 (Dec., 2007), pp. 520-537 Published by: University of Hawai'i Press Stable URL: https://www.jstor.org/stable/20172326 Perhaps one can also make a Papuan conlang spoken elsewhere (Africa or Australia), ...
- 07 Jan 2020 02:54
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
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Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Well, what are the closest languages to Chamorro? There seems to be none, just like Javanese.
- 06 Jan 2020 08:35
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
- Views: 15774
Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
First of all, orthography and phonology: Letter Name Phonetic value A a á ɑ Á á vorom á äː B b bé b C c cé ʦ Č č čé ʧ D d dé d E e é ɛ~æ É é vorom é ɛː(E,S)/eː(W) F f ef f G g gé ɡ H h há h I i í i Í í vorom í iː J j jé j K k ká k L l el l Ľ ľ eľ ʎ M m em m N n en n Ň ň eň ɲ O o ó o~ə(S) Ó ó vorom ó...
- 06 Jan 2020 05:24
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Ideas for African Chamic conlanging
- Replies: 14
- Views: 4498
Re: Ideas for African Chamic conlanging
Despite the small size of these island, they may be accidentally found by passers-by; the explorers may have landed on Madagascar or even mainland East Africa first before moving to Mascarenes. What I intended is a mercantile, seafaring population with Indian-influenced feudal society; however the r...
- 06 Jan 2020 04:09
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
- Views: 15774
Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
By the way, was it the Acehnese who migrated to Champa, or was it the other way around? (I have heard theories of both sort, that includes refugees fleeing either way) Recently I read From Ancient Cham to Modern Dialects by Graham Thurgood, who reconstructed Proto-Chamic. There are many Mon-Khmer l...
- 02 Jan 2020 09:58
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: How would you romanize Kazakh?
- Replies: 37
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Re: How would you romanize Kazakh?
/m n ŋ/ <m n ng> /p b t d k ɡ q/ <p b t d k g q> /*t͡s *t͡ɕ/ <ts tc> /*f *v s z ʃ ʒ *ɕ *x ʁ *h/ <f v s z c j cc/ctc h gh h> /l j w/ <l y w> /r/ <r> /ɘ~ɪ ʉ ə ʊ/ <i ü ï u> /əj~ɘj ʊw~əw~ʉw~ɘw <y w> /i̯ɘ y̯ʉ~ø~œ u̯o/ <e ö o> /*i̯e/ <ä> /æ ɑ/ <ä a> /*jo jʊw~jəw~jʉw~jɘw jɑ/ <yo yw ya> Сотта Тұрсынкүл Жола...
- 02 Jan 2020 09:41
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Ideas for African Chamic conlanging
- Replies: 14
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Ideas for African Chamic conlanging
I'm recently considering making a conlang spoken in Reunion, Mauritius and Seychelles (even including Chagos Archipelago as well), supposed to be spoken by descendants of Northern Chams after the fall of Indrapura in 982 (as refugees). Assume that some of them managed to escape through Malaccas onto...
- 31 Dec 2019 15:14
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
- Views: 15774
Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
Thus, in the language of the Iranian Khalaj (Iranian speakers living on the shores of the Caspian Sea), which according to Indo-Europeanists retains quite useful information and material in its phonetic, grammatical and lexical peculiarities, we find a iterative marker, or more precisely one of plu...
- 31 Dec 2019 15:06
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
- Views: 15774
Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
I know that this Turklang is on hiatus for a while, but just want to drop some stuff here: https://www.jstor.org/stable/43391366 https://www.christopherculver.com/languages/iranian-substrate-phenomenon-mari-chuvash.html Well, do you have ideas about a group of Chamic langs (all open syllables like ...
- 24 Dec 2019 06:38
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
- Views: 15774
Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad, and more...
Maybe I should abandon this conlang for a while, since resources about Oghuric languages are scarce (and sometimes self-contradicting), and chronology of sound changes are hard to track. Starostin's database contain too many morphemes without Chuvash equivalent plus a few with Bulgar equivalent (but...
- 21 Dec 2019 11:32
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary
- Replies: 23
- Views: 4705
Re: Development thread: A Romlang in Hungary
Well, the Carpathian Basin/Pannonian Basin/Greater Hungary has become a hotspot for conlanging. Are there anyone from this region on cbb or zbb?
- 21 Dec 2019 06:50
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
- Replies: 106
- Views: 15774
Re: Eskêl (Carpathian Bulgar) Scratchpad
When the ï is part of a glide, is it possible for it to precede a *u or *o?
BTW are you Indonesian, judging from the link beginning with books.google.com.id? If so, what's your mother tongue (and I'll be grateful if you could give suggestions about Austronesian conlanging)?
BTW are you Indonesian, judging from the link beginning with books.google.com.id? If so, what's your mother tongue (and I'll be grateful if you could give suggestions about Austronesian conlanging)?