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by VaptuantaDoi
07 Feb 2024 11:52
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3333
Views: 309610

Re: Romanization game #2

/p b t d tʃ dʒ k kʷ g gʷ/ <p b t d ch j k kw g gw> /f v θ s z ʃ ʒ h/ <f v th s z sh zh h> /m n/ <m n> /l ɹ j/ <l r y> /i ɪ ʊ u/ <ee i oo ew> /e ɛ ɜ ə ə˞ o/ <ay e u a er oe> /aː æ ɑ ɑ˞/ <ah a o ar> Ambiguous sequences resolved with a hyphen /aː diɪ̯d nɑt hæjə̯v sɛkʃuəl ɹəlɛi̯ʃənz gʷiɪ̯θ dæjə̯t gʷʊmən...
by VaptuantaDoi
07 Feb 2024 09:30
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1666
Views: 345321

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So, if a language has a simple tone system (let's say just high and low), would there be a difference between a low tone melody and a toneless melody? Well, it depends on the language. Usually speaking, if a language has a fairly uncomplicated binary low/high tone distinction, low tone is unmarked....
by VaptuantaDoi
06 Feb 2024 12:00
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3333
Views: 309610

Re: Romanization game #2

/p pʰ b t tʰ d k kʰ g kʷ kʷʰ gʷ/ ⟨ p ph b t th d k kh g q qh w ⟩ /s z x ɣ h/ ⟨ s z j v h ⟩ /m n ŋ/ ⟨ m n ng ⟩ /l j w/ ⟨ l y u ⟩ /r/ ⟨ r ⟩ /i iː u uː/ ⟨ i iy o ou ⟩ /a aː/ ⟨ a ae ⟩ Next: /p k ʔ/ /b d̺/ /ɗ̻ ɗ̺/ /m n̻ n̺ ɲ ŋ/ /s̺/ /ʋ ɫ̻ ɾ̺/ stressed vowels: /i ɛ o a/ unstressed vowels: /ɨ ɐ/ All conson...
by VaptuantaDoi
05 Feb 2024 12:01
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 568
Views: 154705

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Probably what eastern Grasslands Click languages will look like:

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 p       k ʔ
 b   d̺
   ɗ̻ ɗ̺
 m n̻ n̺ ɲ ŋ
     s̺
 ʋ ɫ̻ ɾ̺

i
ɛ   o
  a
by VaptuantaDoi
05 Feb 2024 08:51
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3333
Views: 309610

Re: Romanization game #2

Nice inventory. Like polynesian but with /f r/. /p t k ʔ/ ⟨ p t k h ⟩ /f v s h/ ⟨ f v s j ⟩ /l/ ⟨ l ⟩ /r/ ⟨ r ⟩ /m n ŋ/ ⟨ m n g ⟩ /i u/ ⟨ i u ⟩ /e o/ ⟨ e o ⟩ /a/ ⟨ a ⟩ Next – Nuxalk but the stops are fricatives, the ejectives are stops and clicks, the fricatives are approximants and the approximants...
by VaptuantaDoi
05 Feb 2024 08:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Ai 12.0 (still a Lakes Plain language)
Replies: 10
Views: 539

Re: Ai 12.0 (still a Lakes Plain language)

I will also point out that all of the attested Lakes Plain microinventories still hold to the typological generalization whereby pairs of consonants of the same PoA are distinguished by MoA, something that seems to be an organizing principle for even the smallest inventories - e.g. Rokotas with the...
by VaptuantaDoi
04 Feb 2024 09:14
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Ai 12.0 (still a Lakes Plain language)
Replies: 10
Views: 539

Re: Ai 12.0 (still a Lakes Plain language)

The only further I can see /b t d ɸ s/ going would be the loss of /t/, merging with /s/. At what point would people just be talking static? If there is to be a phonemic bounce-back to a larger inventory, I imagine there could be potentially strange phonemes to derive until a most balanced state, li...
by VaptuantaDoi
04 Feb 2024 06:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: The Click languages
Replies: 9
Views: 887

Re: The Click languages 2: Return of the Clicks

Who wants to completely restart this family from scratch? I do! Also since I find it amusing I will be making proto-Click2 peoples unreasonably advanced, with unanalysable words for things like "earplug" and "download speed" and "ballpoint pen". Presumably modern Click2...
by VaptuantaDoi
04 Feb 2024 04:26
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Kokhene Scratchpad
Replies: 15
Views: 1431

Re: Kokhene Scratchpad

Thinking of absolutely obliterating proto-Click with the following inventory: Roots could either be trochees (ˈCV(C)V) or dactyls (ˈCV(C)V(C)V), the latter deriving from earlier trochee+trochee reduplicants. Foot-initial consonants were: p t b d s x Foot-medial consonants were: m n β ɾ ɣ Combined wi...
by VaptuantaDoi
04 Feb 2024 02:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Kokhene Scratchpad
Replies: 15
Views: 1431

Re: Kokhene Scratchpad

For some reason I just love Babm. i ʲu u ɜ ɑ b bi dzu bu bœ bɑ g dzi dzu dzu gɜ gɑ ʔ ʔɜ ʔɑ m mi ɲu mu m̩ mɑ ŋ ni ɲu ŋu ŋ̩ ŋɑ l dzi dzu lu ɹ̩ lɑ h s̩ ɸ̩ hɜ xɑ /ʲu/ comes from earlier ɯ, i.e. /i ɯ u ə ɑ/, halfway between Ogami and Chacobo. And while we're at it, /b g ʔ m ŋ l h/ < /b g t,k m n,ŋ d p/. ...
by VaptuantaDoi
03 Feb 2024 21:41
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 568
Views: 154705

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Mmm. I agree. As usual I can't stop myself from reducing the number of consonants as much as possible: /t c k k͡p/ /b ɾ ɟ g͡b/ /i u/ /ẽ/ Syllables C(V) #CC, CC# → CaC CɾC → CɾaC CCC → CaCC At word boundaries /ɾ/ is realised as zero b ɾ ɟ g͡b → m n ɲ ŋ͡m / _ẽ i u → e o / c ɟ k͡p g͡b _ k → c /_i k → k...
by VaptuantaDoi
03 Feb 2024 07:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 568
Views: 154705

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

South American + Australian + Ramu languages + Hiw + Yimas, perchance? /p pʷ t̺ t̻ ʈ c k kʷ/ /b bʷ d̺ d̻ ɖ ɟ ʔ ʔʷ/ /ɡ͡ʟ w/ /i ɨ/ /ĩ ɨ̃/ Syllable structure is C(V); plain C syllables surface as [Ca]. /i ɨ/ are lowered to [ə ɔ] following /pʷ ʈ c kʷ bʷ ɖ ɟ ʔʷ w/ (what do you mean, of course that's a na...
by VaptuantaDoi
03 Feb 2024 02:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Ai 12.0 (still a Lakes Plain language)
Replies: 10
Views: 539

Ai 12.0 (still a Lakes Plain language)

Ai Over the past few years I've been working on and off on an a posteriori Lakes Plain conlang, something that to my knowledge has never been done before. I made a thread about it previously, but I don't like that version any more, and I now have (hopefully) a better understanding of syntax than I ...
by VaptuantaDoi
01 Feb 2024 12:20
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Fredauon Fun Facts
Replies: 88
Views: 4652

Re: Fredauon Fun Facts

No, actually not, they remain pretty mysterious. They must understand some form of communication because they were able to comprehend the signals send by the group of Fredauon linguists. They also must have some of societal control since they were able to enforce the agreement among individual Othe...
by VaptuantaDoi
01 Feb 2024 09:45
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1666
Views: 345321

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So, on the page for Polysynthesis, Wikipedia lists two types of polysynthetic languages: affixal and compositional. How accurate is this? Is there any overlap between the two in natlangs? If you want a good conlang-specific intro to polysynthesis, there's this guide from the old ZBB. As for Wikiped...
by VaptuantaDoi
31 Jan 2024 11:44
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Fredauon Fun Facts
Replies: 88
Views: 4652

Re: Fredauon Fun Facts

Fredauon Fun Fact #9: One of the strangest incidents in the history of Fredauon was an encounter with the paradimensional beings known as The Others, who can move wilfully through time and timelimes but irreversibly and involuntary through three-dimensional space. Yo, I had this idea once too. I wa...
by VaptuantaDoi
27 Jan 2024 02:08
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 568
Views: 154705

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Arayaz wrote: 27 Jan 2024 01:14 Are there any natural languages that have /ɨ/ without /i/?
Hixkaryana has /ɯ u e ɔ æ/, and /ɯ/ is basically the same thing as /ɨ/.
by VaptuantaDoi
27 Jan 2024 00:30
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Fredauon Fun Facts
Replies: 88
Views: 4652

Re: Fredauon Fun Facts

Were the birds ever flighted, or did they just evolve straight from land-dwelling dinosaurs? Difficult question. Do we know for sure how flightlessness came about in Earth birds? I think, I tried to read up on it and there are competing analyses. Right now, I think, I have to say that at least some...
by VaptuantaDoi
26 Jan 2024 02:09
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 568
Views: 154705

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

Thinking about reviving Ánni. With lots of tones presumably. I never liked old Ánni very much but the idea was interesting. t k i u ps ts i͡a u͡a m n ɪ ɸ s e ø o w ɫ̪ z j ɛ ɔ a kǀ kǃ ŋǀ ŋǃ And hey, thinking of re-vamping Ai too: /b d k/ /s h/ /i y u ɛ œ ɔ a/ b d k → [β l ʕ] / V_V h → [x] / _œ With p...
by VaptuantaDoi
25 Jan 2024 22:09
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Fredauon Fun Facts
Replies: 88
Views: 4652

Re: Fredauon Fun Facts

Were the birds ever flighted, or did they just evolve straight from land-dwelling dinosaurs?