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by Ahzoh
24 Sep 2022 07:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: The Nature and Etymology of Surprisingly Short Words
Replies: 11
Views: 882

Re: The Nature and Etymology of Surprisingly Short Words

FWIW I'll note that Tokelauan ō is two syllables, not really a short word. Anyways, the shortest word in Hlaitype is m 'and', a clitic with the pronunciation /m/ [ə̆m~m], but u3 /u˧˩/ (a grammatical particle equivalent to 'ing' for most verbs) is close behind (of note, most words in Hlaitype are mo...
by Ahzoh
21 Sep 2022 18:53
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: The Nature and Etymology of Surprisingly Short Words
Replies: 11
Views: 882

Re: The Nature and Etymology of Surprisingly Short Words

I have āg- "send" and āb- "lure, lead" and kāˀ- "beget, appoint"
by Ahzoh
21 Sep 2022 17:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Vulgar: a language generator
Replies: 42
Views: 10928

Re: Vulgar: a language generator

- I just generated a random language and got one pharyngeal consonant, a palatal implosive but no palatal stops, and a glottal stop (and a pharyngeal fricative) but no /h/. I think this stands alone and doesn't need an explanation for why it's a problem. Not natural at all. The generator does not s...
by Ahzoh
17 Sep 2022 22:33
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I'm stuck in a predicament. I originally only had masculine and feminine, but I came up with a third gender, the inanimate/neuter. I don't entirely know how this new noun class could come into existence from a noun class binary, so it creates problems with how nouns in this gender concord with prono...
by Ahzoh
16 Sep 2022 22:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Help With Sound Changes
Replies: 15
Views: 899

Re: Help With Sound Changes

non-syllabic /u/ or /w/ become /p/ or /k/ when found in the coda of a syllable. non-syllabic /i/ or /j/ become /k/ (if u>p) or /c/ (if u>k)

ajta > /akta/ or /acta/
sausu > /sapsu/ or /saksu/
by Ahzoh
11 Sep 2022 18:48
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Would it be naturalistic for monosyllabic words ending in a vowel to take on longer forms of case endings than other types of words?

e.g. kú-mma (3fs-NOM) but nā́tu-m (night-NOM) and lúmbu-m (human-NOM)
Stress marked by acute accent.
by Ahzoh
10 Sep 2022 15:51
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: My Language's Romanization
Replies: 10
Views: 794

Re: My Language's Romanization

Oh, you could have used <ḫ> for /x/ and <ś> for /ɬ/ and <ṙ> for /ɾ/
by Ahzoh
12 Jan 2022 16:11
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Maybe I am wrong, but does your inventory really have two phonemic click POAs? Couldn't you say you only have phonemic dental clicks? well apparently it's physiologically impossible to have palatal secondary articulation on clicks, so they'd phonetically absolutely have to be full palatal clicks. I...
by Ahzoh
12 Jan 2022 15:49
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I look on wiki about click consonants and see that there are no languages with two types of click POAs. They either only have 1 or they have 3 or more. Are there any languages that have two click POAs?

I don't know if my inventory of clicks is naturalistic or attested:
/ᵑǀ ᵑǀʲ~ᵑǂ /
/ǀ ᶢǀ ǀʲ~ǂ ᶢǀʲ~ᶢǂ
by Ahzoh
21 Dec 2021 15:58
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

What would be the desirable forms? What if those forms are created but then analogy / some sporadic shortening of plurals changes them more? Well, this: https://i.imgur.com/UAqOXaO.png It isn't too uncommon for liquids to persist in conditions that would otherwise elide them, but commonly-used word...
by Ahzoh
21 Dec 2021 05:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I suppose you could have a sort of "stressed"/"emphatic"/long form of the singular pronouns that forms through analogy with the plural forms, so you keep the short forms alongside the long, and then that gives you the short forms as a sort of handy thing for forming clitics or v...
by Ahzoh
20 Dec 2021 17:22
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

So I have a synchronic/diachronic sound change where consonants like /ʔ w j h/ (category L) elide in various ways. Namely: L > 0 /V(:)_V(:) L > : / V(:)_C L: > :L / V(:)_V(:) V[+stress] > V:[+stress] (sometimes) There's also vowel coalescence/contraction as a result of these elisions. However this w...
by Ahzoh
29 Nov 2021 09:27
Forum: Everything Else
Topic: The Sixth Conversation Thread
Replies: 789
Views: 199912

Re: The Sixth Conversation Thread

I made a funny (image of moderate size):
Spoiler:
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by Ahzoh
28 Nov 2021 21:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Different verbs in languages use different syntax constructions. I think some syntax book I read in the beginning of my studies said that in secundative construction verb 'to give' works like verb 'to provide'. "We aim to provide the local community with more green spaces." Being a non-na...
by Ahzoh
23 Nov 2021 02:16
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

How can I better describe how the accusative and instrumental case work in my language with respect to secundative languages , at the level of someone who is not familiar with linguistics? So far I have it as this: The accusative (ACC) case indicates the primary object of a verb, which may be the re...
by Ahzoh
09 Nov 2021 03:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

They are long vowels, but ones as a result of contraction/coalescence. Governed state is the default, unpossessed state. If you don't know already and it's useful to you, in Semitic linguistics the default state is called the "absolute state" generally... I see the "governed state&qu...
by Ahzoh
04 Nov 2021 02:39
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Fun phonemic contrasts?
Replies: 12
Views: 2026

Re: Fun phonemic contrasts?

having a natural class called "postvelars" that makes a binary distinction between uvular consonants, which cause vowel retraction, and pharyngeals, which cause vowel advancement.
by Ahzoh
25 Oct 2021 16:15
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does this look like a naturalistic case system? Yes, of course, no reason to say no. How are î and û pronounced? Is governed state everything that is not construct state? They are long vowels, but ones as a result of contraction/coalescence. Governed state is the default, unpossessed state.
by Ahzoh
25 Oct 2021 05:23
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1738
Views: 363055

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

Does this look like a naturalistic case system?
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by Ahzoh
02 Oct 2021 19:06
Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
Topic: Origin of Somali /ʕ/ <c>
Replies: 7
Views: 1757

Re: Origin of Somali /ʕ/ <c>

<ﻉ> [->] <ʿ> [->] <c>