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by VaptuantaDoi
01 Mar 2024 08:43
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347627

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I don't think it's actually all that common for polysynthetic languages to have noun classes; they're characteristic of dependent-marking languages, while polysynthetic languages tend to be strongly head-marking. But as Bininj-gun-Wok shows, it's still possible. But Bantu languages have noun classe...
by VaptuantaDoi
01 Mar 2024 07:38
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347627

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

I don't remember if we have discussed this before. Which languages have both incorporation and noun classes / genders? How do they interact? What happens to noun class markers when the noun is incorporated? In general NI tends never to bring any modifiers, bound or otherwise, with the noun, so noun...
by VaptuantaDoi
27 Feb 2024 12:01
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3391
Views: 311403

Re: Romanization game #2

/p pʰ b t tʰ d k kʰ g ʔ/ p ph b t th d k kh g ' /ɸ θ s x h/ f þ s x ħ /t͡s t͡sʰ d͡z/ c ch ʒ /m n/ m n /l j w/ l j w /r/ r /i ɨ u/ i y u /e o/ e o /ɛ/ æ /ɑ/ a Next: /p k q t ɖ k̺ t̻ t̠̻ c/ /m ŋ ɴ n ɳ ŋ̺ n̻ n̠̻ ɲ/ /ᵇm ᶢŋ 𐞒ɴ ᵈn 𐞋ɳ ᶢ̺ŋ̺ ᵈ̻n̻ ᵈ̠̻n̻ ᶡɲ/ /ʟ ʟ̠ l ɭ ʟ̺ l̻ l̠̻ ʎ/ /k͡ʟ̝̊ q͡ʟ̠̝̊ t͡ɬ ʈ͡ɭ̝̊ k̺͡ʟ̺...
by VaptuantaDoi
27 Feb 2024 11:54
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Project Stubby-Holder
Replies: 6
Views: 459

Re: Project Stubby-Holder

Some slight modifications: Stubby gets an archiphoneme Q which can appear in C₂ or C₃ position. It can follow any coda, but it can only precede stops, so we get the following geminates: pp kk tt thth tyty dnh dn dny dlh rr *yy is missing; it became tyty . The sonorants other than r got pre-stopped;...
by VaptuantaDoi
27 Feb 2024 11:27
Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
Topic: Fredauon Fun Facts
Replies: 99
Views: 5307

Re: Fredauon Fun Facts

Are they similar to Earth fruits in size and taste? Or are they restricted to weird little berries?
by VaptuantaDoi
26 Feb 2024 09:59
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Replies: 570
Views: 155424

Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread

A Stubby-Holder sister language, moving slightly away from the Australian aesthetic. /p t̻ t k/ p th t k /v s̻ ɣ/ v sh g /m n̻ n ŋ/ m nh n ng /d̻n̻ dn/ dnh dn /l̻ l/ lh l /d̻l̻ dl/ dlh dl /ɾ ɹ/ rr r /w ð̞ ̻ j/ w yh y /e o a/ e o a th sh nh dnh lh dlh yh → [c ç ɲ ɟɲ ʎ ɟʎ j] tj sj nj dnj lj dlj y / _ ...
by VaptuantaDoi
25 Feb 2024 09:34
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Project Stubby-Holder
Replies: 6
Views: 459

Project Stubby-Holder

Project Stubby-Holder [/size] This is a project inspired by, but not obligatorily conforming to, Australian languages. I haven’t seen many other Australian-inspired conlangs (the only one I can think of is this one which I'm a big fan of) despite the fact that they’re very interesting and unique. M...
by VaptuantaDoi
24 Feb 2024 03:09
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3391
Views: 311403

Re: Romanization game #2

/b t d k g q ʔ/ b t d k g p q /f θ s ɕ x ħ h/ f z s x j c h /t͡ɕ/ tx /m n/ m n /l j w/ l y w /r/ r /i iː y yː u uː/ i ī y ȳ u ū /e eː ø øː o oː/ e ē œ oē o ō /a aː/ a ā If /oeː/ occurs with any frequency then it can be written oë to distinguish it from /øː/. Next: /d/ /m n ɲ ŋ/ /w ɾ ɹ j/ /∅/ /i u a/...
by VaptuantaDoi
23 Feb 2024 23:44
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3391
Views: 311403

Re: Romanization game #2

/p t c k/ p t c k
/ɸ s ɕ h/ f s x h
/t͡s/ z
/m n ɲ/ m n g
/ʋ l j ʎ/ w l i y
/r rʲ/ r j

/i u/ e u
/e/ è
/æ/ a
/ɑ/ o


Next:

/d k ɡ q/
/θ ʃ ɣ h/
/ʋ l ɾ j/

ATR /i ɨ u e ə/
RTR /i̙ ɨ̙ u̙ e̙ ə̙/ (roughly /ɪ ɘ ʊ ɛ a/)
by VaptuantaDoi
19 Feb 2024 12:09
Forum: Translations
Topic: No one can understand this language
Replies: 24
Views: 4112

Re: No one can understand this language

:con: Wåpwopwåhisi Eveniméʻaʻokeveo miwåpwopwåhisi måwubwå, mikobwåmwo iumemiéwåbwåʻåwuu énin iisihiyéwåbwåmwépiu énin iiʻiméwåbwåå, veʻau pwopwåhit mwåwubwå. [œβʲœnʲymʲøʔäʔəkœβʲœː mʲywɔpʷopʷɔhisi mʷɔwubʷɔ | mʲykobʷɔmʷo yːmʲœmʲyøwɔbʷɔʔɔwuː enʲinʲ iːsihijøwɔbʷɔmʷøpʲyː enʲinʲ iːʔymʲøwɔbʷɔː | βʲœʔäɨ pʷ...
by VaptuantaDoi
19 Feb 2024 09:35
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Kokhene Kool Ideas
Replies: 4
Views: 335

Re: Kokhene Kool Ideas

Kokhene Kool Idea №5 : Wåpwopwåhisi Like fifty years ago I posted a little Micronesian inventory: /pʲ pˠ tʲ k/ /bʲ bˠ dʲ ɡ/ /mʲ mˠ/ /ɸʲ ɸˠ ɕ x/ /βʲ~ɥ βˠ~w ʑ~j ɣ~ɰ/ /ə/ [i~ə] /ɐ/ [a~ɤ] I randomly found it the other day and decided to beat some life back into it. Here's the revised version: pʲ pʷ tʲ ...
by VaptuantaDoi
13 Feb 2024 11:39
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Replies: 1679
Views: 347627

Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here

In what kind of vowel inventories does /ʉ/ (close central rounded vowel) appear? Wikipedia has a very short list. Generally it functions as part of an F2-intermediate series between "front unrounded" and "back rounded", so it's roughly equivalent to /ɨ/, /y/ or /ɯ/. Take Natügu ...
by VaptuantaDoi
12 Feb 2024 10:57
Forum: Beginners' Corner
Topic: Too many pronouns?
Replies: 9
Views: 502

Re: Too many pronouns?

At a glance, Hungarian has at least 144 personal pronouns (and another 119 reflexive and reciprocal pronouns) so 66 is by no means a stretch. However, much of the case marking is regular in Hungarian.
by VaptuantaDoi
12 Feb 2024 08:00
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Altlang Ideas Discussion
Replies: 101
Views: 26834

Re: Altlang Ideas Discussion

Ælfwine wrote: 11 Feb 2024 22:47 Thinking again of a romlang, except perhaps nestled somewhere in North Italy, amongst all those other weird and wonderful Italian dialects there. Key feature might be a shift of stress to the initial syllable due to widespread pretonic syncope.
Gotta love a romlang with initial stress [B)]
by VaptuantaDoi
11 Feb 2024 21:49
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexicon milestones and discussion of lexicon growth
Replies: 660
Views: 168620

Re: Lexicon milestones and discussion of lexicon growth

a priori in the strong sense languages, measure their success by the smallness of their lexicon... No they don't. oh you are adept at the new use of "a priori" for "with invented lexicon", note that I specified "in the strong sense", and that the length of my post does...
by VaptuantaDoi
11 Feb 2024 12:03
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Kokhene Kool Ideas
Replies: 4
Views: 335

Re: Kokhene Kool Ideas

Kokhene Kool Idea №4: So Proto-Ąkuyookic has the following sonority hierarchy: ​ ​ ​ ​ ​​ t k ʔ → s → h → ɾ → j w To make a cluster, you just take any one, two or three in order, and you get the following underlying forms: t k ʔ s h ɾ j w ts th tɾ tj tw ks kh kɾ kj kw ʔs ʔh ʔɾ ʔj ʔw sh sɾ sj sw hɾ ...
by VaptuantaDoi
11 Feb 2024 08:55
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Lexicon milestones and discussion of lexicon growth
Replies: 660
Views: 168620

Re: Lexicon milestones and discussion of lexicon growth

lsd wrote: 11 Feb 2024 08:46 a priori in the strong sense languages,
measure their success by the smallness of their lexicon...
No they don't.
by VaptuantaDoi
11 Feb 2024 05:17
Forum: Conlangs
Topic: Kokhene Kool Ideas
Replies: 4
Views: 335

Re: Kokhene Kool Ideas

Kokhene Kool Idea №3: There's an island called Ąkuyook off the coast of Kokhene's southern polar continent which has two not-super-closely related languages on it, which I've previously called Ǫneebǫwhítw and Icááwənun. My original idea for proto-Ąkuyookic was something like this: ​ ​ ​ ​ ​​ t ʒ k ...
by VaptuantaDoi
11 Feb 2024 04:11
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3391
Views: 311403

Re: Romanization game #2

/p pː b t tː d k kː ɡ ʔ/ p p' b t t' d k k' q h /f fː v s sː z ʃ ʃː ʒ x xː/ f f' w s s' z x x' g v v' /l j/ l y /r/ r /m n/ m n /t͡s t͡sː t͡ʃ t͡ʃː/ c c' j j' /i u/ i u /ɛ ɔ/ e o /ɑ/ a Why wouldn't I do a nine-phoneme analysis of Wichita? /t k ʔ/ /s h/ /ɾ w/ /i a/ /i iː iːː/ /i í/ /kawáːɾah ɾaháiítsʔ...
by VaptuantaDoi
11 Feb 2024 02:08
Forum: Games
Topic: Romanization game #2
Replies: 3391
Views: 311403

Re: Romanization game #2

/t d k g q ʔ/ <t d k g q ɂ> /tʼ kʼ qʼ/ <tˀ kˀ qˀ> /kʷ gʷ qʷ ʔʷ/ <ko go qo ɂo> /kʷʼ qʷʼ/ <koˀ qoˀ> /s x χ/ <s c x> /sʼ xʼ χʼ/ <sˀ cˀ xˀ> /ɬ/ <l> /ɬʼ/ <lˀ> /l j ɰ/ <r y v> /i iː u uː/ <i ii u uu> /ə̃ ə̃ː/ <ą ąą> /a aː/ <a aa> /◌́ ◌̄ ◌̀/ <í íí, i ii, ì ìì> /◌̤ ◌̰/ <iʰ iiʰ, iˀ iiˀ> /sísə̰̃ tʼúktāːkə̰̃ː ...