How NOT to Conworld.

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Re: How NOT to Conworld.

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To answer some things:
Doesn't mean so, it means you shouldn't put it there unless there's a good enough explanation for it.
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Re: How NOT to Conworld.

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Veris wrote:posting.php?mode=quote&f=24&p=59886
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Micamo wrote:Jaela was designed because every D&D player is a closet pedophile.
What the hell is a jaela? And it's better than being one of those people who likes dragons. People who like them all have Oedipus complexes...
Wait, what? I don't think that means what you think it means.
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Thakowsaizmu wrote:What the hell is a jaela?

You lazy clods! I provided two links when I very first mentioned Jaela.
Yeah, awesome. It explained nothing aside from a poor drawing and some link to that drek called Eberron.
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Thakowsaizmu wrote:Yeah, awesome. It explained nothing aside from a poor drawing and some link to that drek called Eberron.
Jaela aside, I *like* Eberron ;-;
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Micamo wrote:
Thakowsaizmu wrote:Yeah, awesome. It explained nothing aside from a poor drawing and some link to that drek called Eberron.
Jaela aside, I *like* Eberron ;-;
I think it tries too hard. Plus, it is kind of weird to play in.
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At least it's more interesting than Greyhawk...
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Micamo wrote:At least it's more interesting than Greyhawk...
Everything is more interesting than Greyhawk.
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Lodhas wrote:I only have humans in my conworld because the original intent behind it was as background lore for a video-game or tabletop RPG or something similar and I knew at least some people would bitch if they had to be the funny looking creature with absolutely no sex-appeal.
That's quite an opinion of your fellow gamers.
I know, but unfortunately more accurate than you'd think.
In any case, whatever the reason, someone will object to playing 'ugly' or 'strange-looking' characters and including humans is a sound strategy.
What are you basing your opinion on, may I ask?
Micamo wrote:My problem with the sentiment of "I don't have to listen to you because the only person who matters is me" is it's the universal cop-out. It's what you say when you refuse to change your mind but you've run out of arguments to those who disagree with you. Falling back on it is one of the surest signs of rationalization.
You're discouraging the newcomer and dumping on his conworld because it doesn't suit your personal tastes. You want this guy to stop conworlding, or change the way he conworlds, because it's not to your liking.

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Yeah, I think I'll stick with my advice of "don't listen to them, just do what you want."
Micamo wrote:A more accurate picture would be me throwing the mic into the audience and then running off the stage sobbing to go hang myself.
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Thakowsaizmu wrote:Yeah, awesome. It explained nothing aside from a poor drawing and some link to that drek called Eberron.
Yeah, so that explains that Jaela is a character in a D&D campaign setting called Eberron. What more do you want?
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Thakowsaizmu wrote:Yeah, awesome. It explained nothing aside from a poor drawing and some link to that drek called Eberron.
Jaela aside, I *like* Eberron ;-;
I think it tries too hard. Plus, it is kind of weird to play in.
That's what happens when you let your fans come up with a new campaign setting.

And that's why I only play homebrew.
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I like how this topic (How NOT to Conworld) mostly degenerated into a discussion of D&D.
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D&D has tonnes of conworlds, so it is a good place to look.
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Veris wrote:What are you basing your opinion on, may I ask?
Personal experience and a few small studies I read; nothing comprehensive, I admit.
I cite WoW changing their character models when fans complained they were ugly as a fairly high profile and easy-to-find example.

A surprising proportion of fan-art from various games and movies also tends to support the idea; as a whole, characters seem to become more attractive to human eyes and tend to lose more alien features that would detract from this.

I must point out that I'm not saying this is universal though; there are many examples of the opposite occurring (I remember one instance where someone redesigned the na'vi from Avatar so they made more sense within their ecosystem; four arms, four eyes, the fish-like jaws etc.) but they tend to be overwhelmed by those glorify physically attractive characters.

(A related phenomenon would be the infamous 'chain maille bikini'.)
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Lodhas wrote:I cite WoW changing their character models when fans complained they were ugly as a fairly high profile and easy-to-find example.
So THAT'S why the trolls and goblins and minotaurs all have D-cups...
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Micamo wrote:... minotaurs ... have D-cups ...
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I can justify that, what with them being giant Cows. But it is still ew.
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Yeah but the udders are in the wrong place...
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Micamo wrote:Yeah but the udders are in the wrong place...
Touché
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What are things that people tend to do with their conworlds that make you lose interest?
Rehash other/older ideas.
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Micamo wrote:Yeah but the udders are in the wrong place...
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yacheritsi wrote:...
I might hate you now...
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yacheritsi wrote:
Micamo wrote:Yeah but the udders are in the wrong place...
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Actually, that's pretty cool!
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