Forum News discussion/feedback thread

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Ser wrote: 16 Mar 2020 18:31By the way, there are two X-SAMPA -> IPA converters on aveneca.com. The one I use is XIPA, not JEPAX, although maybe you could just copy both over to the new site.
I don't mean to ignore the rest of your post (I'm a bit short on time atm!), but is there a reason you prefer one over the other?
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Re: Forum News discussion/feedback thread

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Aszev wrote: 16 Mar 2020 20:23
Ser wrote: 16 Mar 2020 18:31By the way, there are two X-SAMPA -> IPA converters on aveneca.com. The one I use is XIPA, not JEPAX, although maybe you could just copy both over to the new site.
I don't mean to ignore the rest of your post (I'm a bit short on time atm!), but is there a reason you prefer one over the other?
XIPA uses less resources because JEPAX runs the x2i() function every time you type a letter, and sometimes I'm on a computer with pretty low resources so typing on JEPAX can be annoying. Actually, you just made me realize that it's mostly just habit now, since I'm not on a low-resource computer as often as I used to... There's also an element of too much stupidity, because I could've easily translated x2i() into a silly little local program in Python or whatever, but the idea literally did not occur to me until now, lol, I just kept using your XIPA page...
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Ossicone wrote: 16 Mar 2020 20:14 I am still hoping to restore the old posts back to the forum. But I have been pretty busy the past few months and haven’t had the time.
Congrats on the promotion! [xD] Thanks for your efforts [:)]
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I only just spotted the promotion as well. Does it count as a promotion when your job title changes to recognise the work you're already doing? I don't know, but much congratulations either way! [:D]

Also, nice change to the Boards logo [:)] Subtle, but nice.
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sangi39 wrote: 20 Mar 2020 14:41Also, nice change to the Boards logo [:)] Subtle, but nice.
Thanks! I thought it was about time we improved the branding a bit, since the last logo was supposed to be temporary. I also fixed new favicon, which should work for across devices [:)]
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Maybe someone should notify the LCS that we've moved. Their page still links to the old site. On the other hand, half the links on the LCS website are broken, so...
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Mándinrùh wrote: 20 Apr 2020 23:17 Maybe someone should notify the LCS that we've moved. Their page still links to the old site. On the other hand, half the links on the LCS website are broken, so...
Will do!

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And done!
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All hail techwizard Ossicone All Hail Techwizard Ozzicone
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[+1] Excellent work, Ossicone! Thank you for taking the time and putting in the effort to do this.
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I just want to [+1] and say thanks to Ossicone (Ossigod? Godicone?) for restoring the old stuff. [:D]

But the smilies aren’t working?
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DesEsseintes wrote: 25 Apr 2020 06:01 I just want to [+1] and say thanks to Ossicone (Ossigod? Godicone?) for restoring the old stuff. [:D]

But the smilies aren’t working?
Not everything returned. There was a particular game thread- similar to the diachronic challenge thread- that I now realized was unfortunately pruned into oblivion. This one for example
will return a dead link. Alas, I had some great insights, and it was really cool looking at the maps and what not in retrospect. I remember, if I remember correctly, Adarain making a neat one where the primary feature was movement through a mountain valley.

But oh well, time gives and time takes. It was a necessary loss, and so
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Whoa, looks like some post-counts are down. And the smilies aren't working. :(
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qwed117 wrote: 25 Apr 2020 06:13 Not everything returned. There was a particular game thread- similar to the diachronic challenge thread- that I now realized was unfortunately pruned into oblivion. This one for example
will return a dead link. Alas, I had some great insights, and it was really cool looking at the maps and what not in retrospect. I remember, if I remember correctly, Adarain making a neat one where the primary feature was movement through a mountain valley.

But oh well, time gives and time takes. It was a necessary loss, and so
Unfortunately, in order to make sure the majority of posts can remain up some had to be sacrificed.
Unless you want to pay for dedicated server hosting, in which case I can restore all of the posts.
KaiTheHomoSapien wrote: 25 Apr 2020 07:13 Whoa, looks like some post-counts are down. And the smilies aren't working. :(
The post counts have been resynchronized.

I also updated the forums to the latest version of phpbb which has caused the smilies to stop working. It is a known issue and is due to be fixed in their next release.
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Ossicone wrote: 25 Apr 2020 10:56I also updated the forums to the latest version of phpbb which has caused the smilies to stop working. It is a known issue and is due to be fixed in their next release.
Out of curiosity, what functionality, if any, has changed? What can we now do in posts that we couldn't before?
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elemtilas wrote: 25 Apr 2020 14:06
Ossicone wrote: 25 Apr 2020 10:56I also updated the forums to the latest version of phpbb which has caused the smilies to stop working. It is a known issue and is due to be fixed in their next release.
Out of curiosity, what functionality, if any, has changed? What can we now do in posts that we couldn't before?
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Wait, all the non-English stuff has just been deleted!?

[I mean, I know I wasn't using it anyway, but...]
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Salmoneus wrote: 26 Apr 2020 14:41 Wait, all the non-English stuff has just been deleted!?

[I mean, I know I wasn't using it anyway, but...]
The main issue with the non-English section was that hardly anybody used it. During the past six months only two threads had got any new posts at all. Another problem was that it wasn't being used for its intended purpose, leading to most topics having few posts with little content, and a large portion of them being in English. Of course, the intended purpose was perhaps a bit counterintuitive.

In any case, the plan is to have the spirit of the Other Languages forum come back in a new shape, that hopefully will be a better fit with the board as a whole.
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I can appreciate that in an abstract sense.

But sudden mass deletion of people's posts is a little unfair, don't you think?
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Salmoneus wrote: 26 Apr 2020 16:29 I can appreciate that in an abstract sense.

But sudden mass deletion of people's posts is a little unfair, don't you think?
Yes, that is true, but I did not delete the forum into the void! I archived all the threads, and am currently sorting through them, since many of the threads can be relabeled and put back in the new Language Learning & Non-English forum, that I've just set up.
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• Personal threads for practicing a certain language.
→ Threads should be titled <[Username] – [Language]>; e.g. Aszev – Français.

• Question threads for a specific language.
→ Threads should be titled <[Language] Question Thread: Questions about [Language]>, where the second part is in the language in question (but this can be added later if the thread starter is unfamiliar with the language); e.g. French Question Thread: Questions sur le français.

• Conversation threads in a specific language. In these threads, English should be avoided.
→ General conversation threads should be titled <[Language] Conversation Thread | [Language] Conversation Thread>, where the first part is in the language in question.
→ Threads with specific topics should be tagged with the name of the language used in brackets before the actual title; e.g. [Français] Thread title
I think it would be good to elaborate on the purpose of personal threads. Did you grab that idea from the UniLang forum? At UniLang, there is a difference between personal threads and conversation threads, but it isn't clear to me whether you're replicating that here...

At UniLang personal threads, people post questions they have about the L2 (in the L2 or English) to get answers/opinions, and also journal-like entries of one-three paragraphs for which they welcome corrections (including thorough/detailed corrections if someone has the patience for that). The advantage of allowing people to post questions in these threads is that they can get answers/opinions in English, and also some people just feel more comfortable asking them here than in general question threads.

Meanwhile, in conversation threads, people only speak in the L2, generally about any topic (including, sometimes, people's questions about the L2 or observations people of make about grammar/vocabulary they see in chats/newspapers/etc, and such metalinguistic things). In those threads, corrections are usually kept low. Also, conversation threads usually have lower activity than personal threads and general question threads (not sure why, maybe some strange things about comfortable feelings again).

I'm just asking about clarifications. I think it's an interesting idea to have a section for language learning.

That said, I've noticed conlangers in general tend to not actually learn languages much, probably because general typology is much more important for the hobby than depth in one language or a few languages. I sometimes feel like a bit of a stranger in conlanging chatrooms or such groups because I actually try to learn various of the languages I give examples about... There's a thread on the ZBB for practising languages, and at any given time it is usually the same relatively few people that participate.
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