Howe & Strauss generational theory

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Re: Howe & Strauss generational theory

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Well, they give the birthyears as follows:

Lost Generation: 1883-1900
G.I. Generation: 1901-1924
Silent Generation: 1925-1942
Baby Boom: 1943-1960
Generation X: 1961-1981
Millennial Generation: 1982-2004

So the intent of "January 1, 1943 to December 31, 1960" is clear in the article.
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Here, Mark Passio talks in more detail about the Millennials as well as the Europeans and their attitudes:

What On Earth Is Happening - Episode #205

Topics: Entitled Socialist Attitudes Of Millennials & Europeans, ..., Entitlement, Prescriptive demands on others, ..., the Correct Definition of Socialism, How Socialism ALWAYS degrades into Communism historically, ..., How Socialism bates people with "free stuff," Who are the Millennials?, Generation Y, Millennials and their support of Socialism, Millennials not being able to correctly define Socialism, Indoctrination through the "Education" System, the Frankfurt School, Antonio Gramsci, the "Long March Through The Institutions," Europeans and their support of Socialism, Europeans and Canadians making rude and undue demands and not understanding that it is socially unacceptable behavior, ...

I've already heard about the term "Long March Through The Institutions" as a means the 68ers wanted to gain power.
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What On Earth Is Happening - Episode #205

Indoctrination through the "Education" System,
I've always thought it ridiculous how so many alt-righters and "Red Pill" types think American schools indoctrinate kids to be "Marxist". Your typical K-12 teacher wants to raise kids in an authoritarian mold -- his/her goal is to create a batch of socially conservative, fiscally liberal, pro-corporate social conformists. (Doesn't usually work, though . . .)
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What Howe & Strauss predicted about Millennials . . . and what actually happened.

https://www.vox.com/2014/7/26/5936723/m ... illennials
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A New York Times article wherein the surviving author, Neil Howe, tries to explain the coronavirus crisis in light of the theory.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/us/p ... ticleShare

Now, what this article doesn't mention is that he and Bill Strauss predicted we Millennials would march ovinely behind the Crisis president, en masse, much as the Greatest Generation followed FDR. That sure didn't happen!
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Khemehekis wrote:
30 May 2020 05:32
A New York Times article wherein the surviving author, Neil Howe, tries to explain the coronavirus crisis in light of the theory.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/28/us/p ... ticleShare

Now, what this article doesn't mention is that he and Bill Strauss predicted we Millennials would march ovinely behind the Crisis president, en masse, much as the Greatest Generation followed FDR. That sure didn't happen!
Couldn't read that particular article (NYT doesn't appreciate ad blockers as much as I do), though I read another one, which perhaps you could read and compare.

You're right, it sure didn't! I don't think American culture in its modern more radicalised form lends itself to that kind of massive upswell of focused national activity that we experienced during and after WWII. And in reality, it wasn't even a generational thing then! Sure it was the 18 to 30 year olds who went off to fight, but it was little kids who scavenged tin cans for recycling and older people who joined the civil defense groups and grew victory gardens in their yards. It was really an all out effort by every sector of society from scientists to mechanics to farmers, from glitterati to literati, the uber wealthy to the truly poor. What do we have now? Well we have the scientists and healers doing the heavy lifting. Most everyone else is just kind of waiting for the whole thing to be over with so they can either get back to work or go and eat. And then we have the "social media influencers" telling us how terribly difficult it is to stay home, and here's 10 tips you can use today to give yourself a slightly better than craptastic hair cut! We have idiots rioting in cities around the country --- not just the so-called "protests" following Mr Floyd's recent murder, but all the other ding-dongs "protesting" the various attempts to deal with the crisis. This is a country so divided against itself --- politically, ideologically, morally, economically --- you might as well just serve it up on little plates a la mode. There was never any hope millennials --- or anyone else, to be honest --- was just going to line up behind Trump and do whatever they're told to do.

As far as "millennials" marching ovinely behind the crisis president du jour, I really don't think H&S could have in their wildest dreams predicted Trump. And I don't think they could have predicted how loopy he's gotten since January. Frankly, I don't even bother listening to him during the press conferences. If he were smart, he'd just turn the whole thing over to Drs Birx and Fauci and s.t.h.u. already. This is not his area of strength and he is not providing any kind of leadership. Ultimately, he's just sinking his own reelection chances when he has had a five months to really learn how to lead and learn how to rely on good counsellors. I think if FDR had done similar, we would not have seen the country step up to that challenge.

Re H&S: Frankly, I don't buy their "generational" theories. Clearly there are, in every generation, those who will fall in line, those who will tow the line, those who will cross the line and those who couldn't tell you what the line even is. And these kinds of groups are not even the same from issue to issue, crisis to crisis. That's just one of the constants of the cracked-&-brokenness of human nature!

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