samsam wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 10:03Conlangslangs: everytime I stop to phonology. I make vocabulary by pré-made lists instead of making words when I have an idea.
So stop stopping at phonology and get on with the conlanging already. (Believe it or not, conlanging can be a pleasant creative experience, and not, as is often presupposed, a Linguistics101 test).
Lao Kou wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 12:48
So stop stopping at phonology and get on with the conlanging already. (Believe it or not, conlanging can be a pleasant creative experience, and not, as is often presupposed, a Linguistics101 test).
shimobaatar wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 14:07
Welcome to the CBB, samsam!
Lao Kou wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 12:48
So stop stopping at phonology and get on with the conlanging already.
Much more easily said than done for many of us, unfortunately.
Thank you!
I'm not sure if I mentioned that I'm creating an Indo-Iranian conlang, so I must make the phonology before anything because I want my conlang to be realistic/natural.
Actually, I have problems with the aspirated stops because I don't know how to use them (It's said on wikipedia that aspirated stops come in sanskrit before an original laryngeal but the only laryngeal I saw was /h/)
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samsam wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 14:13
I'm not sure if I mentioned that I'm creating an Indo-Iranian conlang, so I must make the phonology before anything because I want my conlang to be realistic/natural.
Well, if you're making an a posteriori conlang, might it be better to apply sound changes and see how the phonology develops first rather than to begin by having a phonology set in stone?
shimobaatar wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 14:07
Welcome to the CBB, samsam!
Lao Kou wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 12:48
So stop stopping at phonology and get on with the conlanging already.
Much more easily said than done for many of us, unfortunately.
For me, a language is a lot more than its phonology and phonotactics. And while the "How to" books tell you to start here, I'd be far more interested in looking at funky words and sentence structures than how a [ b] realizes itself around a nasal.
(About five posts posted as I was writing this, so never mind).
Lao Kou wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 14:29
For me, a language is a lot more than its phonology and phonotactics.
Oh, of course it is! I just mean that, for many of us, it's not easy to get past the phonology, not that we're not interested in theoretically doing so. Creative block is a menace!
shimobaatar wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 14:35
Oh, of course it is! I just mean that, for many of us, it's not easy to get past the phonology, not that we're not interested in theoretically doing so. Creative block is a menace!
I appreciate this. But for me, and I don't consider myself clinically insane, Géarthnuns just wouldn't shut the f***k up.
We approach our projects in different ways and from different angles, and that's fine. I just wish there were things to look at other than IPA charts and Esperanto-esque paradigms from time to time.
I guess I'm fortunate that phonology is not what I'm most interested in, otherwise I might've gotten bogged down in it too. It's all about crazy morphology for me. Not that that's any less of a mire
samsam wrote: ↑23 Jul 2018 14:13
I'm not sure if I mentioned that I'm creating an Indo-Iranian conlang, so I must make the phonology before anything because I want my conlang to be realistic/natural.
Well, if you're making an a posteriori conlang, might it be better to apply sound changes and see how the phonology develops first rather than to begin by having a phonology set in stone?
^this
Sound Changes are arguably more important for a posteriori than a priori since they determine the resulting phonology.
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Khemehekis wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020 08:29
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I had a feeling, but I didn't know I was the first of something! That's cool, I guess.
Looking at my post, it really needs to be updated. Neither of those languages exist anymore, I'm in Japan now, I'm more certain of my political ideas... Lots of things need to change.
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