The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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Post particularly weird phonologies from Gleb here.


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Here's one with a more extreme Germanic-type vowel system, but with back unrounded vowels instead of front rounded, and a rhotic vowel instead. The consonant system is also pretty crazy, with /ʀ̆ʷ/ being the only phonemically labialized consonant.

G̃ʌʌnpag̃vv /ŋgʌːnpaŋgʊ̜ː/


Nasal m n ŋʲ ŋ <m n ɲ ŋ>
Stop pʰ p mb tʰ t nd t͡sʰ t͡s nd͡z k̟ʰ k̟ ŋg̟ kʰ k ŋg <p b b̃ t d d̃ c z z̃ ç j j̃ k g g̃>
Fricative s nz <s s̃>
Resonant ɹ ʀ̆ ʀ̆ʷ <l r rw~wr>

Vowels
Front Central Back
High i iː ɯ ɯː u uː <i ii y yy u uu>
Near-high ɪ ɪː ʊ̜ ʊ̜ː ʊ ʊː <ɪ ɪɪ v vv ʊ ʊʊ>
Mid-high e eː ɤ ɤː o oː <e ee ə əə o oo>
Mid-low ɛ ɛː ʌ ʌː ɔ ɔː <ɛ ɛɛ ʌ ʌʌ ɔ ɔɔ>
Low a aː a˞ aː˞ ɒ ɒː <a aa ã ãã ɑ ɑɑ>


/tɯɹŋo:na˞ɹʀ̆ʷ o:ŋnd͡za˞kɤ: a: kʰu:ɤk a:ŋ͡g meʀ̆ʷʀ̆ʷan? ʊ:mksaʀ̆ʷuɹ ɔʀ̆ʷeʀ̆ʀ̆ʷnd͡zamŋuʀ̆ŋ͡g ŋɛʀ̆ŋ͡g ni:ŋ͡gnd͡zoni:ŋɹu: n͡doʀ̆e:ʀ̆ʷʀ̆ʷ kʲʰa˞ɹɪŋ! kʰɛ:ʀ̆ʷ n͡dɪ:ŋ͡ge:m kiʀ̆ʷŋ͡gʌ:ʀ̆a˞ɹŋ ŋ͡ganka˞:ɹ e:ŋʲkʲɛŋʲŋ͡g./
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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I had a nice one yesterday.
Consonants
/m n/
/p t ts k ʔ/
/f θ̺ s h/
/β̞ l/

Vowels:
/i u/
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/

Syllable Structure:
CVC
/θ̺/, /ts/ cannot be codas.

As usual, there is a long list of assimilations. The most jarring effect is that a nasal-obstruent cluster fuses into a geminate voiceless nasal. The rules state that nasals assimilate in place and voicing and obstruents (except /h/) become nasals in these clusters. That looks both unique and natural to me.

Examples:
/pankik/ [paŋ̊ŋ̊ik]
/suntsa/ [sun̥n̥a]
/kɔnpa/ [kɔm̊m̊a]
/funθ̺ɔt/ [fun̥n̥ɔt]
/tsantatθ̺ɛ/ [tsan̥n̥atθ̺ɛ]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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/m n̻ ŋ/
/pʰ p ɓ̰ tʰ̻ t̻ ɗ̰̻ kʰ k/
/f h/ (yes, these are the only fricatives, there is no coronal)
/l w/

/i ɨ u/
/ɪ̈/ (odd, you'd expect this to lower)
/ɛ ɔ/
/a/

/il̻ɔk/ [il̻ɔk]
/kʰapl̻ɛkʰ/ [qʰapl̻̥ɛkʰ]
/tʰ̻apn̻ɨk/ [tʰ̻abn̻ɨk]
/mikʰn̻ɛn̻l̻/ [mikn̻̥ɪn̻l̻̥]
/l̻ɛt̻ka/ [l̻ɛt̻qa]
/mɪ̈pʰɛŋ/ [mɪ̈pʰɪŋ̥]
/tʰ̻ɛfhil̻t̻/ [tʰ̻ɛfhil̻̥t̻]
/ŋul̻t̻ut̻/ [ŋul̻̥t̻ut̻]
/mɛn̻af/ [mɪn̻af]
/pʰɔwmɪ̈t̻/ [pʰɔo̯mɪ̈t̻]
/paɔl̻t̻/ [paɔl̻̥t̻]
/fak/ [fak]
/ɪ̈t̻/ [ɪ̈t̻]
/pan̻ɛt̻/ [pan̻ɛt̻]
/ik/ [ik]
/kʰut̻ak/ [kʰut̻ak]
/wɛ/ [wɛ]
/t̻ul̻ɛt̻/ [t̻ul̻ɛt̻]
/pɔt̻ak/ [pɔt̻ak]
/kʰɔmkt̻a/ [qʰʊŋ̥kt̻a]
/kʰan̻ɪ̈p/ [qʰan̻ɪ̈p]
/ŋɛpʰpɛk/ [ŋɛppɛk]
/mɛl̻ift̻/ [mɛl̻ift̻]
/n̻al̻ut̻/ [n̻al̻ut̻]
/n̻uk/ [n̻uk]
/ŋifɔm/ [ŋifʊm̥]
/fɔtʰ̻t̻ap/ [fɔt̻t̻ap]
/pɛwɔ/ [pɛo̯ɔ]
/kikɔtʰ̻/ [keqɔtʰ̻]
/kʰal̻t̻kak/ [qʰal̻̥t̻qak]
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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What are the phonological processes. I see some voicing assimilations in consonants, but what about the vowel changes?
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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Velars become uvulars before non-front non-high vowels (attested somewhere, I'm sure); mid vowels raise before nasals, /w/ is /o̯/ adjacent to mid or low vowels, high vowels lower before uvulars.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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The mid vowel raising is interesting because it creates surface minimal pairs between [ɪ̈] and [ɪ]. It also interacts opaque with the uvularization IINM, see /kʰɔmkt̻a/ [qʰʊŋ̥kt̻a] where in the surface [q] is adjacent to a high vowel.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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Phonemic inventory

Consonants

Nasals: /m̤ m n̤ n ɳ̤ ɳ ŋ̤ ŋ/
Stops: /pʰ p pʼ b̤ b ɓ tʰ t tʼ d̤ d ɗ ʈʰ ʈ ʈʼ ɖ̤ ɖ ɗ̢ kʰ k kʼ g̤ g ʔ/ (Is such a 6-way contrast attested?)
Fricatives: /f v s z ʂ ʐ x ɣ/
Approximants: /l̤ l ɭ̤ ɭ/

Vowels: /i i̤ o o̤ a a̤/

Syllable structure

(C1)(C2)V(C3)

C1: one of /m̤ m n̤ n ɳ̤ ɳ ŋ̤ ŋ pʰ p pʼ tʰ t tʼ ʈʰ ʈ ʈʼ kʰ k kʼ ʔ ɓ ɗ ɗ̢ f s ʂ x l̤ l ɭ̤ ɭ/
C2: a consonant
V: a vowel
C3: one of /m̤ m n̤ n ɳ̤ ɳ ŋ̤ ŋ pʰ p pʼ tʰ t tʼ ʈʰ ʈ ʈʼ kʰ k kʼ ʔ ɓ ɗ ɗ̢ f s ʂ x l̤ l ɭ̤ ɭ/

This is also weird, /pʰpʰa̤pʰ/ is a valid syllable, and does not change under allophony either unless it is word-final.

Allophony

Non-implosive stops [pʰ t ɖ̤ ...] persistently assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than an approximant lateral and become unaspirated word-finally. Before an aspirated stop or nasal, ejective stops become non-ejective.
Non-implosive stops [pʰ t ɖ̤ ...] assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than an approximant lateral. Before an aspirated stop or nasal, ejective stops become non-ejective.
Non-retroflex alveolar consonants [n̤ tʼ s ...] persistently become retroflex [ɳ̤ ʈʼ ʂ ...] after a retroflex consonant.
Non-retroflex alveolar consonants [n̤ tʼ s ...] become retroflex [ɳ̤ ʈʼ ʂ ...] after a retroflex consonant.
Unaspirated voiced vowels and non-glottal fricative voiced consonants other than fricatives or implosives [m b l ...] become breathy-voiced [m̤ b̤ l̤ ...] before a breathy-voiced consonant.
Velar stops or nasals [ŋ̤ kʰ kʼ ...] become fricatives [ x x ...] after a low lax vowel. Aspirated stops or nasals become unaspirated; [kʼ] become [x]; [ŋ] become [ɰ̃].
[ʔ] are deleted between a vowel or semivowel and a vowel or an approximant.
Non-implosive obstruents [pʰ d g̤ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than an approximant. After a voiced obstruent, ejective stops become non-ejective implosives.
Unaspirated voiced vowels and non-glottal fricative voiced consonants other than fricatives or implosives [m b l ...] become breathy-voiced [m̤ b̤ l̤ ...] after a breathy-voiced consonant. [ɰ̃] are deleted.
[n̤ n ɳ̤ ɳ ʈʰ ʈ ʈʼ ɖ̤ ɖ ɗ̢ s z ʂ ʐ ɭ̤ ɭ] persistently assimilate in anteriority and retroflexion to a following coronal consonant other than a stop or nasal.
Nasals [m̤ n̤ ɳ ...] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Non-implosive obstruents [pʰ d g̤ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following obstruent. Before a voiced obstruent, ejective stops become non-ejective implosives.
Unaspirated voiced vowels and non-glottal fricative voiced approximants [ɰ̃ ɭ o ...] become creaky-voiced [ ɗˡ̢ o̰ ...] after a glottal stop. Approximants become non-ejective obstruents or nasals.
Unaspirated obstruents other than [f s ʂ x], i.e. [p ʈʼ ɗˡ ...], assimilate in glottalisation to a preceding non-nasal consonant other than an approximant. After an ejective consonant, non-implosive voiced obstruents become non-glottalised; non-velar non-implosive voiced obstruents become implosive; [v] become [ɓ].
Non-nasal consonants other than implosive obstruents or approximants [pʰ d g ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding consonant other than an approximant. After a voiced obstruent or nasal, ejective consonants become non-glottalised implosive.
Velar consonants [ŋ̤ k g ...] become rounded [ŋʷ̤ kʷ gʷ ...] before a mid-high rounded vowel.
Unrounded consonants [m̤ d̤ ɗ̢ ...] become rounded [ŋʷ̤ dʷ̤ ɗʷ̢ ...] before a rounded consonant. Labial obstruents or nasals become non-labial velar.
High vowels [i i̤ ḭ] persistently become non-front [ɨ ɨ̤ ɨ̰] before a retroflex consonant.
Non-glottalised unaspirated voiced obstruents other than implosive fricative sibilants [b ɓ ɗʷˡ̢ ...] become creaky-voiced [ɓ ɓ̰ ɗʷˡ̢̰ ...] before a glottal stop. Non-implosive obstruents become non-glottalised; non-velar non-implosive obstruents become implosive; [v] become [ɓ].
Non-glottalised unaspirated voiceless stops [p tʷ ʈʷ ...] persistently become ejective [pʼ tʷʼ ʈʷʼ ...] before a glottal stop.
Short non-implosive voiced obstruents [b̤ ɖ v ...] become voiceless [pʰ ʈ f ...] before a voiceless aspirated stop.
Non-nasal consonants other than implosive obstruents or consonant laterals [pʰ ʈʼ gʷ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following obstruent or nasal and become voiceless word-finally. Before a voiced obstruent or nasal, ejective consonants become non-glottalised implosive.
Some words

/o/ [o]
/po̤/ [po̤]
/m̤oʈʼo/ [m̤o̤ʈʼo]
/dio/ [dio]
/mo̤ɣo/ [mo̤ɣʷo]
/so̤/ [so̤]
/ɭtʼo̤ɖ̤i̤/ [ɭ̥ʈʼo̤ɖ̤i̤]
/ɣa/ [ɣa]
/tʼgoma/ [tʷʼkʷʼoma]
/ɣilopʼ/ [ɣilopʼ]
/mozi/ [mozi]
/o̤/ [o̤]
/kʰaɣil̤/ [kʰaɣi̤l̥]
/kʼol̤bi/ [kʷʼo̤l̤b̤i̤]
/gotʰɖi/ [gʷotʈi]
/ʐoi/ [ʐoi]
/ɭi̤ɖ̤o/ [ɭɨ̤ɖ̤o̤]
/ŋia/ [ŋia]
/ŋito/ [ŋito]
/kʰo/ [kʷʰo]
/so/ [so]
/kʰa̤sa/ [kʰa̤sa]
/dapʼo/ [dapʼo]
/l̤kob̤of/ [lʷ̥kʷo̤b̤o̤f]
/g̤a/ [g̤a̤]
/oʂo/ [oʂo]
/bapzikʰ/ [bapsik]
/ovo/ [ovo]
/ɗitʰi̤/ [ɗitʰi̤]
/la/ [la]
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My favorite words are /tʼgoma/ [tʷʼkʷʼoma] and /l̤kob̤of/ [lʷ̥kʷo̤b̤o̤f]. Almost scifi space opera alien-like. Especially if you spell them <T'goma> and <Lköböf>.
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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Nasals: /n͡m m n ɲ ŋ/ <nm m n ň ng>
Stops: /t͡p t͡pʼ d͡b p pʼ b t tʼ d t͡s t͡sʼ d͡z t͡ʃ t͡ʃʼ d͡ʒ k k' g/ <tp tp' db p p' b t t' d c c' z č č' ž k k' g>
Fricatives: /s͡f z͡v ʃ͡f ʒ͡v s ʃ/ <sf zv šf žv s š> - weird, there's /z͡v ʒ͡v/ but no /z ʒ v/ or any other voiced fricatives. Maybe /z ʒ/ reduced to /r/? If that happen, you would think that /z͡v/ would become /r͡v/, which could follow several paths afterwards, maybe reducing further to /r/ or /v/ or shifting to /ʙ/ or /r͡ʙ/.
Sonorants: /r/ <r>
Vowels: /i a u/ <i a u>

(C)V

C: a consonant
V: a vowel

Allophony

[a] persistently become [ɛ] before a front consonant. (Written as <ǎ>)
[d͡b̪̻ d͡b̪ʲ̻ d͡b̪ d͡b̪ʲ b bʲ ɟ g d͡z̻ d͡zʲ̻ d͡z d͡zʲ d͡ʒ d͡ʑ d͡ʒ̺ d͡ʑ̺] become fricatives between a vowel or semivowel and a vowel or semivowel. Non-sibilant coronal stops become stops; non-sibilant coronal stops become non-labiodental; palatal or velar stops are deleted.
[d͡b̪̻ d͡b̪ʲ̻ d͡b̪ d͡b̪ʲ b bʲ ɟ g] become fricatives between a vowel or semivowel and a vowel or semivowel. Labiodental stops become stops; alveolar stops become non-labiodental; palatal or velar stops are deleted.
<ǎ> is pronounced /ɛ/ before a palatal and /ɛi/ elsewhere.

There was actually 10x this much text for total allophony, but most of it pertained to consonant clusters only. These are not allowed in the current syllable structure.

/kuiŋu/ [kuiŋu] kuingu
/ʃ͡fibu/ [ʃ͡fiβu] šfibu
/t͡pʼaa/ [t͡pʼaa] tp'aa
/ŋus͡fakʼi/ [ŋus͡fakʼi] ngusfak'i
/giŋami/ [giŋami] gingami
/s͡fagikʼa/ [s͡faikʼa] sfagik'a
/uʃ͡fina/ [uʃ͡fina] ušfina
/kururu/ [kururu] kururu
/t͡ʃan͡mamu/ [t͡ʃan͡mamu] čanmamu
/ʃunu/ [ʃunu] šunu
/t͡suŋuʃa/ [t͡suŋuʃa] cunguša
/aŋakʼi/ [aŋakʼi] angak'i
/kais͡fa/ [kɛis͡fa] kǎsfa
/kʼugu/ [kʼuu] k'ugu
/muus͡fu/ [muus͡fu] muusfu
/ʃ͡faru/ [ʃ͡faru] šfaru
/ut͡sutu/ [ut͡sutu] ucutu
/kiʃa/ [kiʃa] kiša
/bunimi/ [bunimi] bunimi
/ŋukiu/ [ŋukiu] ngukiu
/d͡zukʼuna/ [d͡zukʼuna] zuk'una
/butut͡si/ [butut͡si] butuci
/s͡fuka/ [s͡fuka] sfuka
/ŋirakʼa/ [ŋirakʼa] ngirak'a
/t͡ʃʼaku/ [t͡ʃʼaku] č'aku
/tidi/ [tidi] tidi
/baʃu/ [bɛʃu] bǎšu
/ŋat͡ʃʼu/ [ŋɛt͡ʃʼu] ngǎč'u
/apus͡fi/ [apus͡fi] apusfi
/ʃ͡faŋuŋi/ [ʃ͡faŋuŋi] šfangungi
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The data don't have intervocalic /d͡b̪̻ d͡b̪ʲ̻ d͡b̪ d͡b̪ʲ/ right? What a shame [:O]
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Seed 2064753085:

Nasals: /m n ɳ/ <m n ṇ>
Stops: /b t d k g/ <b t d k g>. No retroflex stops despite having /ʂ ɳ/ contrasting with /s n/.
Fricatives: /f s ʂ x/ <f s ṣ h>
Approximants: /β ɹ j/ < ̊- r ̈->
Vowels: /i ɛ a ɔ u/ <i e a o u>
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)
C1: a non-retroflex consonant; i.e. a consonant other than /ɳ ʂ/
V: a vowel
C2: one of /n ɳ t ʂ ɹ/
Allophony

Front vowels and semivowels [j i ɛ] become non-front [ ɨ ɜ] after a retroflex obstruent or nasal. [j] are deleted.
Non-retroflex alveolar consonants [n t s ...] persistently become retroflex [ɳ ʈ ʂ ...] before a retroflex fricative.
Consonants [m ʈ ʂ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a preceding obstruent or nasal. After a voiceless obstruent, nasals become non-nasal. After a voiced stop or nasal, fricative sibilants become approximants; [f] become [β̞]; [x] are deleted.
Central vowels [ɨ ɜ a] become front [i ɛ ɛ] after a palatal semivowel. [a] become [ɛ].
Back vowels [u ɔ] become central [ʉ ɞ] before a palatal semivowel.
Voiceless stops [p t ʈ k] persistently become aspirated [pʰ tʰ ʈʰ kʰ] word-finally.
Vowels [i u ɞ ...] persistently become nasal [ĩ ũ ɞ̃ ...] after a nasal.
Coronal stops [tʰ d ʈ ...] become non-affricate and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Non-retroflex alveolar consonants [n t s ...] become retroflex [ɳ ʈ ʂ ...] after a retroflex consonant.
Non-nasal vowels [i u ɞ ...] become nasal [ĩ ũ ɞ̃ ...] before a nasal phone.
Consonants [m t ʂ ...] persistently assimilate in voice to a following obstruent or nasal. Before a voiceless obstruent, nasals become non-nasal. Before a voiced stop or nasal, aspirated stops become unaspirated; [f x] become [β̞ ]; fricative sibilants become approximants.
Short non-glottal stop unaspirated voiceless consonants [p k x ...] become voiced [b g ...] between a voiced phone and a voiced phone. Fricative sibilants become approximants; [x] are deleted; [f] become [β̞].
Alveolar consonants [n t s ...] persistently become retroflex [ɳ ʈ ʂ ...] after a retroflex consonant.
Unaspirated voiceless stops [p p̪ ʈ ...] persistently become aspirated [pʰ p̪ʰ ʈʰ ...] after an aspirated stop.
Non-sibilant coronal coronal nasals [n ɳ] become nasals and assimilate in place of articulation to a following obstruent or nasal.
Short non-nasal voiced consonants [b ɖ ɹ ...] become voiceless [p ʈ ɹ̥ ...] after a voiceless aspirated stop.
Some words

/β̞adiɔ/ [β̞adiɔ] ådio
/β̞iji/ [β̞iji] i̊ï
/ɔɹu/ [ɔɹu] oru
/nɔna/ [nɔ̃nã] nona
/jakɔ/ [jɛgɔ] äko
/xɛsa/ [xɛɹa] hesa
/itmɛ/ [ippɛ] itme
/xina/ [xĩnã] hina
/ɹɔji/ [ɹɞji] roï
/jɛa/ [jɛa] ëa
/fiɹaxi/ [fiɹai] firahi
/nita/ [nĩda] nita
/tunɹi/ [tũnɹi] tunri
/sɛkaxɛ/ [sɛgaɛ] sekahe
/ɹuji/ [ɹʉji] ruï
/β̞ujɛna/ [β̞ʉjɛ̃nã] ůëna
/ɹɛsuʂ/ [ɹɛɹuʂ] resuṣ
/ɹaka/ [ɹaga] raka
/itjigɛ/ [itj̥igɛ] itïge
/xija/ [xijɛ] hiä
/dɛgɛu/ [dɛgɛu] degeu
/ɛdiβ̞at/ [ɛdiβ̞atʰ] ediåt
/ɹɔga/ [ɹɔga] roga
/ɛfusa/ [ɛβ̞uɹa] efusa
/axa/ [aa] aha
/tutɔsat/ [tudɔɹatʰ] tutosat
/xɛxi/ [xɛi] hehi
/β̞ɛnaxu/ [β̞ɛ̃nãũ] e̊nahu
/β̞ixɔβ̞i/ [β̞iɔβ̞i] i̊hoi̊
/β̞uxɛ/ [β̞uɛ] ůhe


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Stops: /t tʰ k kʰ q qʰ/ <t z k x q qx>
Fricatives: /s ɣ xʷ ɣʷ ʁʷ/ <s ĭ hŭ~ŭh ŭ ŏ>
Approximants: /l/ <l>
Vowels: /i e a o u/ <i e a o u>
Yes, no labials at all, and no plain /x ʁ/, with a total of 12 consonants.

Sequences of /iɣ ɣi uɣʷ ɣʷu oʁʷ ʁʷo/ are written <ī ū ō>.
Syllable structure

(C1)V(C2)
C1: a consonant
V: a vowel
C2: a consonant
Allophony

Stops [tʰ kʰ qʰ ...] assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than [l].
Stops [tʰ kʰ qʰ ...] persistently assimilate in aspiration to a following consonant other than [l] and become word-finally.
[l] become [l̥] after a voiceless obstruent.
Velar obstruents [kʰ k xʷ ...] become uvular [qʰ q χʷ ...] before a non-front non-high vowel.
Short non-glottal stop unaspirated voiceless consonants [t q xʷ ...] persistently become voiced [d ɢ ɣʷ ...] between a voiced phone and a voiced phone.
Unrounded velar or uvular obstruents [kʰ g ɢ ...] become rounded [kʷʰ gʷ ɢʷ ...] after a high rounded vowel.
Unaspirated voiceless stops [t k q ...] persistently become aspirated [tʰ kʰ qʰ ...] after an aspirated stop.
Non-back vowels other than [a], i.e. /i e/, become central [ɨ ɘ] before a consonant.
After a front high vowel, velar obstruents become non-pharyngeal velar fronted; velar rounded obstruents become non-pharyngeal unrounded velar fronted.
Front vowels /i e/ become non-front [ɨ ɘ] after an uvular obstruent.
Obstruents [tʰ kʷʰ s ...] assimilate in voice to a following obstruent. Before a voiced consonant other than [l], aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Voiceless consonants [tʰ kʷʰ s ...] persistently become voiced [d gʷ z ...] after a voiced obstruent. Aspirated stops become unaspirated.
[tʰ t d kʰ k g qʰ q ɢ s z x ɣ χ ʁ l̥ l] become rounded before a rounded obstruent.
Voiceless consonants [tʰ k sʷ ...] persistently become voiced [d g zʷ ...] before a voiced consonant except an approximant. Aspirated stops become unaspirated.
Some words

/kutʰqaɣʷ/ [kutqaɣʷ] kuzqaŭ
/qultu/ [quldu] qultu
/kata/ [qada] kata
/ɣʷaqtʰa/ [ʁʷaqʰtʰa] ŏaqza
/ii/ [ii] ii
/tuɣʷxʷa/ [tuɣʷʁʷa] tūhŏa
/isiqa/ [ɨzɨɢa] isiqa
/uʁʷi/ [uʁʷɨ] uŏa
/tʰekʰɣʷa/ [tʰɘgʷʁʷa] zexŭa
/kuxʷo/ [kuʁʷo] kuhō
/ʁʷukaxʷ/ [ʁʷuɢʷaxʷ] ŏukaŭh
/ɣʷaa/ [ʁʷaa] ŏaa
/eʁʷukot/ [ɘʁʷuɢʷot] eŏukot
/kaɣʷus/ [qaɣʷus] kaūs
/koaq/ [qoaq] koaq
/aso/ [azo] aso
/tuseq/ [tuzɘq] tuseq
/utxʷutʰ/ [utʷxʷut] uthūz
/soqe/ [soɢɘ] soqe
/kuqo/ [kuɢʷo] kuqo
/uʁʷu/ [uʁʷu] uŏu
/qoɣʷa/ [qoʁʷa] qōa
/ɣʷuso/ [ɣʷuzo] ūso
/luʁʷu/ [luʁʷu] luŏu
/kuok/ [kuok] kuok
/kaxʷo/ [qaʁʷo] kahō
/satu/ [sadu] satu
/soxʷa/ [soʁʷa] sōha
/kuqʰo/ [kuqʷʰo] kuqxo
/uɣʷo/ [uʁʷo] uō
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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ɶʙ ɞʛ wrote: 28 Feb 2021 20:45
Stops: /pʰ p pʼ b̤ b ɓ tʰ t tʼ d̤ d ɗ ʈʰ ʈ ʈʼ ɖ̤ ɖ ɗ̢ kʰ k kʼ g̤ g ʔ/ (Is such a 6-way contrast attested?)
Wikipedia says /p pʰ ɓ̥ b b̤ ɓ/ is attested in Owere Igbo
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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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Unknown seed (number never showed)
/m ɱ n/ <m mv n>
/pʰ p b p̪ʰ p̪ b̪ tʰ t d kʰ k g/ <pf p b ff f v z t d x k g>
If anything, the labiodentals are likely to have allophones /f v/.
/s h/ <s h>
/l ɺ j/ <l r i>
/i ɨ u/ <i ɪ u>
/e ɘ o/ <ė ƨ ȯ>
/ɛ ɜ ɔ/ <e ɜ o>
/a/ <a>

/kʰjapja shitʰnɛɛ kʰhɜ jɛnɛsje eɘɘ ɜnhɜthɔso || ɺji ɨtʰɜ sɛkʰ ɜp̪ʰkɘ khebkʰhanɛ jɜkɛ || hɜnjakʰkɛkɘtʰ kʰhɘuhuk ɱɘe jɘkʰɨ dɘotoag || hɜkʰjɜkʰje tʰhi asnɜsjo tjɨ hɜtkjɘ tʰihɜ || pɨeɘpʰ tjɔe unhatʰad ɛlo gjitoad tʰinat/

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Re: The glebst of gleb, CBB edition

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Seed 1502914164

/m n ŋ/ <m n ng>
/pʰ p tʰ t kʰ k ʔ/ <p̄ p t̄ t k̄ k '>
/s h/ <s h>
/ɾ l ʎ ʟ ʟʷ/ <r l ly~yl lg~gl lw~wl>

Instead of /j w/, their lateral versions? Also, no other labiovelars or palatals. Why would this happen?

Nguanikt̄e man lwateelit i 'ianglwim eglsinatu. Epak̄a ro ié isu iánur raríi éi 'inni néu óaáu u ren. Ip̄u nit̄ t̄i enilge ií; lotik̄t̄e a lgipmu etéié nat̄uk eum, ooóui otek̄nonglolu aó éa líi ore. Uée loet̄ asna roru néio notae lyea.
/ŋuaniktʰe man ʟʷateelit i ʔiaŋʟʷim eʟsinatu || epakʰa ɾo ie isu ianuɾ ɾaɾii ei ʔinni neu oaau u ɾen || ipʰu nitʰ tʰi eniʟe ii | lotikʰtʰe a ʟipmu eteie natʰuk eum | oooui otekʰnonʟolu ao ea lii oɾe || uee loetʰ asna ɾoɾu neio notae ʎea/
[ŋuanɨkʰtʰe man ʟʷateelit i ʔiaŋʷʟʷɨm əʟ̥sinatu || epakʰa ɾo je isu januɾ ɾaɾij ej ʔinni new oʕaw u ɾen || ipʰu nitʰ tʰi enɨʟə ji | lotɨkʰtʰe a ʟɨbmu eteje natʰuk eum | ooowi otəgnoŋʟolu ʕo eʕ lij oɾe || wee loetʰ azna ɾoɾu nejo notae ʎea]

/p pʰ t tʰ k kʰ/ > /p' t' k'/ _ʔ
/n d z ɾ/ > /l/ R_, R = /ɾ l/
/p t k/ > /pʰ tʰ kʰ/ _Cʰ, _h
hC > hC̥
/p pʰ t tʰ k kʰ/ > /b d g/ C̬_, _C̬
/m n ŋ/ > /m/ _{labial}, /n/ _{coronal}, /ɲ/ _ʎ, /ŋ/ _{velar}
/i e/ > /ɨ ə/ _{velar}, {velar}_
/a o u/ > /ɛ ø y/ _{palatal}, {palatal}_
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