Modify the IPA

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Modify the IPA

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This time I discuss the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA). Where some of current IPA characters are ambiguous meanings:
⟨ɧ⟩ → /ʃ͡x/ or /fˠʷ/ (simplified as /fʷ/)
⟨ɿ ʅ⟩ → /z̩ ʐ̩/ or /ɹ̩ ɻ̍/ or /ɯ ɨ/
⟨ɫ⟩ → /lˠ/ or /lˤ/
⟨ɕ ʑ⟩ → /ʃʲ ʒʲ/ or /s̠ʲ z̠ʲ/ or /ç˖ ʝ˖/
⟨ɚ⟩ and ⟨ɝ⟩ have the same sounds: /əɹ~ɜɹ/ or /ɹ̩/
⟨ʍ⟩ → previously /w̥/ or /hʷ/ (English), now /xʷ/

In Wikipedia, there is a lot of information about the new IPA characters that can be found in Unicode maps, such as ⟨ȶ⟩, ⟨ȸ⟩, ⟨ᵻ⟩, ⟨ᴀ⟩ and many more.

The following are non-official IPA letters but legal to use:
⟨ᴀ ᴇ ⱻ ᵻ ꭥ ᵿ ω⟩ → /ä~ɐ̞ e̞~ɛ̝ ɤ̟~ɤ̘ ɨ̞~ɪ̈ o̞~ɔ̝ ʉ̞~ʊ̈ ɯ̽~ʊ̜/
⟨ȸ ȡ ȴ ȵ ȹ ȶ⟩ → /b̪ d̠ʲ~ɟ˖ l̠ʲ~ʎ̟ n̠ʲ~ɲ̟ p̪ t̠ʲ~c̟/

For capital letters in IPA, there are some that already have their own letters except ⟨ʔ⟩ that using ⟨Ɂɂ⟩ in writing.
Spoiler:
Aa Ææ Ɐɐ Ɑɑ Ɒɒ Bb Ɓɓ Ββ Cc Çç Ɔɔ Dd Ðð Ɗɗ Ɖɖ Ee Əə Ɛɛ Ɜɜ Ff Ɠɠ Ɡɡ Ɣɣ Hh Ħħ Ɥɥ Ɦɦ Ii Ɨɨ Ɪɪ Jj Ʝʝ Kk Ll Ɫɫ Ɬɬ Mm Ɯɯ Ɱɱ Nn Ŋŋ Ɲɲ Oo Øø Œœ Ɵɵ Pp Qq Rr Ɽɽ Ʀʀ Ss Ʂʂ Ʃʃ Tt Ʈʈ Θθ Uu Ʉʉ Ʊʊ Vv Ʋʋ Ʌʌ Ww Xx Χχ Yy Zz Ʒʒ

Look out, the following capital letters of ⟨b ð x⟩ and ⟨β ɖ χ⟩ have the same letters: ⟨B Ð X⟩, Required to change the letters to ⟨Ꞵꞵ Ɋɖ Ꭓꭓ⟩
Meanwhile, I have found several capital letters that are claimed to match the small letters used by IPA. However, not everything looks real:
∃ɘ (“there exists” symbol)
Ⅎɟ (capital of Claudian letter turned F)
Φɸ (Greek letter Phi)
ꓤɹ (Lisu letter Za)
ꓩɾ (Lisu letter Fa)
Ѵⱱ (Cyrillic letter Izhitsa)
𐊰ʍ (Carian letter S)
⅄ʎ (actually a turned sans-serif letter Y)

And in addition, modify these letters, think these are suitable:
Ƀʙ Gɢ 𐋅ʜ Ꙇɭ Łʟ Ꚇɰ Ꞥɴ Ϫɤ Ɏʏ Ᶎʐ

Look after changes:
Aa Ææ Ɐɐ Ɑɑ Ɒɒ Bb Ɓɓ Ƀʙ Ꞵꞵ Cc Çç Ɔɔ Dd Ðð Ɗɗ Ɋɖ Ee ∃ɘ Əə Ɛɛ Ɜɜ Ff Ⅎɟ Ɠɠ Ɡɡ Gɢ Ɣɣ Hh Ħħ Ɥɥ Ɦɦ 𐋅ʜ Ii Ɨɨ Ɪɪ Jj Ʝʝ Kk Ll Ɫɫ Ɬɬ Ꙇɭ Mm Ɯɯ Ꚇɰ Ɱɱ Nn Ŋŋ Ɲɲ Ꞥɴ Oo Øø Œœ Ɵɵ Pp Φɸ Qq Rr ꓤɹ Ɽɽ ꓩɾ Ʀʀ Ss Ʂʂ Ʃʃ Tt Ʈʈ Θθ Uu Ʉʉ Ʊʊ Vv Ʋʋ Ʌʌ Ѵⱱ Ww 𐊰ʍ Xx Ꭓꭓ Yy Ϫɤ ⅄ʎ Ɏʏ Zz Ᶎʐ Ʒʒ

Anything else?
Last edited by Anonymous999 on 01 Apr 2022 15:41, edited 1 time in total.
Capital letters of ⟨β ɘ ɸ ɪ ɟ ʎ ɹ ɾ ⱱ ʍ χ⟩ are ⟨Ꞵ ∃ Φ Ɪ Ⅎ ⅄ ꓤ ꓩ Ѵ 𐊰 Ꭓ⟩.
⟨ꞵ ꭓ⟩ (Latin) are alternate forms of ⟨β χ⟩ (Greek).
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Re: Modify the IPA

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ɿ ʅ? Since when are they official IPA symbols?
ω - near-close near-back unrounded vowel.
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Titus Flavius wrote: 01 Apr 2022 13:34 ɿ ʅ? Since when are they official IPA symbols?
Since used in China and all countries outside China to teach how to speak Chinese properly. Usually for pinyin ⟨c⟩, ⟨ch⟩, ⟨r⟩, ⟨s⟩, ⟨sh⟩, ⟨z⟩, ⟨zh⟩ when followed by ⟨i⟩. CMIIW.
Capital letters of ⟨β ɘ ɸ ɪ ɟ ʎ ɹ ɾ ⱱ ʍ χ⟩ are ⟨Ꞵ ∃ Φ Ɪ Ⅎ ⅄ ꓤ ꓩ Ѵ 𐊰 Ꭓ⟩.
⟨ꞵ ꭓ⟩ (Latin) are alternate forms of ⟨β χ⟩ (Greek).
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Anonymous999 wrote: 01 Apr 2022 15:16
Titus Flavius wrote: 01 Apr 2022 13:34 ɿ ʅ? Since when are they official IPA symbols?
Since used in China and all countries outside China to teach how to speak Chinese properly. Usually for pinyin ⟨c⟩, ⟨ch⟩, ⟨r⟩, ⟨s⟩, ⟨sh⟩, ⟨z⟩, ⟨zh⟩ when followed by ⟨i⟩. CMIIW.
Lots of things are 'used in China'; that doesn't make them IPA.

You seem to be confused about many of the symbols as well - [ʍ] is [xʷ], for example, and [ɚ] and [ɝ] obviously aren't the same sounds (it's right there in the symbols!); claiming that the latter are the same as /əɹ~ɜɹ/ just seems to be a profound misunderstanding of how phonemes work. [they're rhotacised vowels, not vowels followed by a rhotic; in some languages those may be allophones of the same phoneme, but not others]. And all IPA characters are 'ambiguous', welcome to symbolic representation.
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Anonymous999 wrote: 01 Apr 2022 12:50 ⟨ɕ ʑ⟩ → /ʃʲ ʒʲ/ or /s̠ʲ z̠ʲ/ or /ç˖ ʝ˖/
This is incorrect, I think even Polish has some of these as minimal pairs.
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