Guess the Word in Germanic Conlangs

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Language: Theodish
Word: ydesughtow
IPA: [ˈʔiːdzʊfto]

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shimobaatar wrote:
11 Dec 2019 00:29
Language: Theodish
Word: ydesughtow
IPA: [ˈʔiːdzʊfto]
This is the most alien looking Theidish word I’ve encountered lol. They’re usually so tame.

Is y- a prefix descended from *ga-?

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11 Dec 2019 01:08
shimobaatar wrote:
11 Dec 2019 00:29
Language: Theodish
Word: ydesughtow
IPA: [ˈʔiːdzʊfto]
This is the most alien looking Theidish word I’ve encountered lol. They’re usually so tame.

Is y- a prefix descended from *ga-?
Haha, that was definitely my intention (both "words usually looking rather tame/familiar" and "this particular word looking weird").

[cross] y- is not descended from *ga-.

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Is it a noun?

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spanick wrote:
15 Dec 2019 22:10
Is it a noun?
[tick]

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Is it composed of at least three PG descended morphemes?

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spanick wrote:
17 Dec 2019 02:39
Is it composed of at least three PG descended morphemes?
[cross] I would say only 2 identifiable morphemes.

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Is the boundary between yde-sughtow?

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spanick wrote:
17 Dec 2019 03:23
Is the boundary between yde-sughtow?
Oh damn, I'm sorry, I could have sworn I'd responded to this.

It's ydes-ughtow.

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Does ughtow derive from Germanic *unhtwǭ?

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VaptuantaDoi wrote:
23 Dec 2019 04:33
Does ughtow derive from Germanic *unhtwǭ?
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Is the whole term Christmas-themed?

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Is the whole term Christmas-themed?
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Is the ydes- morpheme a noun?

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VaptuantaDoi wrote:
24 Dec 2019 22:17
Is the ydes- morpheme a noun?
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It might help to ignore the y-. It's there because it's present in this word's cognates in some real Germanic languages, but as far as I can tell, it doesn't really mean anything.

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That helps muchly! Does it come from PGmc *dīsiz as in Old English "ides"? If so, does it have the same meaning as the OEng?

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VaptuantaDoi wrote:
26 Dec 2019 21:23
That helps muchly! Does it come from PGmc *dīsiz as in Old English "ides"? If so, does it have the same meaning as the OEng?
[tick] It does! Although it does not have the same meaning as its Old English cognate.

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shimobaatar wrote:
27 Dec 2019 02:25
[tick] It does! Although it does not have the same meaning as its Old English cognate.
Hmm... has the meaning become more specific or less specific?

(If I'm not allowed to ask that, then "has the meaning become less specific?")

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VaptuantaDoi wrote:
27 Dec 2019 02:33
shimobaatar wrote:
27 Dec 2019 02:25
[tick] It does! Although it does not have the same meaning as its Old English cognate.
Hmm... has the meaning become more specific or less specific?

(If I'm not allowed to ask that, then "has the meaning become less specific?")
Hmm, that's tough (although in general I think it's a perfectly fine question to ask here). I think I'd say that the difference has more to do with connotation than specificity.

Also, just to be safe/clear, this is where I'm getting the definition of the Old English word.

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