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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Does it mean "Easter"?

That is, from something along the lines of ipsam festam de ipsum agnellum, "the feast of the lamb"?
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Jackk wrote: 06 Apr 2020 14:46 Is it related to "confess"?
[cross]
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 15:01 Does it mean "Easter"?
[cross] It does not.
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 15:01 That is, from something along the lines of ipsam festam de ipsum agnellum, "the feast of the lamb"?
However, this is exactly what I have in my notes. [tick]
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Does it represent a holiday, and if so, Christmas?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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If I may be allowed two guesses, depending on your answer to qwed's first question...

...if it does mean a particular holiday (and neither Christmas nor Easter), does it mean Passover? (maybe this is a jewish romlang!)

...if it doesn't mean a particular holiday, does it just mean the Mass/Eucharist in general?


EDIT: either way, pretty pleased with myself guessing the literal meaning! I'm not normally much good at this. For me, the key was thinking that since you'd used a sardinian article, maybe the famous Sardinian /ll/ > /ɖɖ/ explained the otherwise unusual 'dd' cluster...
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qwed117 wrote: 06 Apr 2020 15:54 Does it represent a holiday,
[tick]
qwed117 wrote: 06 Apr 2020 15:54 and if so, Christmas?
[cross]

Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 16:11 ...if it does mean a particular holiday (and neither Christmas nor Easter),
[tick]
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 16:11 does it mean Passover? (maybe this is a jewish romlang!)
[cross] Good guess, though! You're on the right track thinking outside of Christianity.
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 16:11 ...if it doesn't mean a particular holiday, does it just mean the Mass/Eucharist in general?
[cross]
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 16:11 EDIT: either way, pretty pleased with myself guessing the literal meaning!
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 16:11 For me, the key was thinking that since you'd used a sardinian article, maybe the famous Sardinian /ll/ > /ɖɖ/ explained the otherwise unusual 'dd' cluster...
Indeed, good thinking! This was inspired by Sardinian and Sicilian in particular.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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...Eid al-Adha?
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Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 17:10 ...Eid al-Adha?
[tick] [tick] [tick]

Well done!

According to Wikipedia, it's sometimes referred to as "la Fiesta del Cordero/Borrego" in Spanish. Regardless of how commonly used those terms actually are, I decided to use an equivalent term here.
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shimobaatar wrote: 06 Apr 2020 23:06
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 17:10 ...Eid al-Adha?
[tick] [tick] [tick]

Well done!

According to Wikipedia, it's sometimes referred to as "la Fiesta del Cordero/Borrego" in Spanish. Regardless of how commonly used those terms actually are, I decided to use an equivalent term here.
congrats Sal!
Salmoneus wrote: 06 Apr 2020 16:11 EDIT: either way, pretty pleased with myself guessing the literal meaning! I'm not normally much good at this. For me, the key was thinking that since you'd used a sardinian article, maybe the famous Sardinian /ll/ > /ɖɖ/ explained the otherwise unusual 'dd' cluster...
Sardinian itself doesn't keep agnellus, instead using a descendant of *agnionem, agnone. That means the corresponding term in Sardinian would be "sa Festa di s'Agnone". Not as fun I suppose.
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Hey, I won one!

...but I'm afraid it might take a day or two for me to come up with something. I'll get right on it! [I'll see what I can dig up on one of my old romlangs...]
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Salmoneus wrote: 07 Apr 2020 00:42 Hey, I won one!

...but I'm afraid it might take a day or two for me to come up with something. I'll get right on it! [I'll see what I can dig up on one of my old romlangs...]
No worries! Take your time!
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Great phrase shimo! [:D]

and I always like to see ipse definites woo
terram impūram incolāmus
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Jackk wrote: 07 Apr 2020 01:41 Great phrase shimo! [:D]

and I always like to see ipse definites woo
Thank you!

Haha, same here. [:D]
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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New word:

s-invazaṛ-um-òt

Pronounced more or less as written (the ò indicates a low back vowel; the stress is on the ZAR syllable)


[I'm afraid this won't be an easy one...]
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Is the stem related to invāsiō/invāsus?
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I'm afraid not.
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Do the hyphens correspond to morpheme boundaries?

This might be a stupid question, but I'd rather get it out of the way now than potentially realize several questions in that I'd jumped to an incorrect conclusion.
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shimobaatar wrote: 08 Apr 2020 23:45 Do the hyphens correspond to morpheme boundaries?

This might be a stupid question, but I'd rather get it out of the way now than potentially realize several questions in that I'd jumped to an incorrect conclusion.
Assuming the answer to this is yes, is the s- corresponding to ipse?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Salmoneus wrote: 08 Apr 2020 22:25 s-invazaṛ-um-òt
Exciting! Is it a noun (phrase) or verb (phrase)?
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shimobaatar wrote: 08 Apr 2020 23:45 Do the hyphens correspond to morpheme boundaries?
The hyphens do mark morpheme boundaries, but there's also one morpheme boundary not marked by hyphens. [possibly two? probably not, though. It depends at what point you regard fusion as having taken place]

qwed: it does not correspond to ipse.

jackk: it's a verb.
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Salmoneus wrote: 09 Apr 2020 13:07 jackk: it's a verb.
Is invazaṛ from a Latin infinitive?
terram impūram incolāmus
hamteu un mont sug
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