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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 03:38
by qwed117
oh was it *w in Classical Latin then?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 16:10
by Jackk
qwed117 wrote: 19 Mar 2020 03:38 oh was it *w in Classical Latin then?
[tick] Indeed it was!

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 19 Mar 2020 17:36
by shimobaatar
Is it descended from, or at least related to, vīvō?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 04:25
by qwed117
does the a in magrir descend from a diphthong or monophthong containing /a/?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 18:15
by Jackk
shimobaatar wrote: 19 Mar 2020 17:36 Is it descended from, or at least related to, vīvō?
[tick] Correct! [:D]
qwed117 wrote: 20 Mar 2020 04:25 does the a in magrir descend from a diphthong or monophthong containing /a/?
[tick] It does.

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 20 Mar 2020 22:34
by shimobaatar
Jackk wrote: 10 Mar 2020 08:36
shimobaatar wrote: 10 Mar 2020 00:40 Is magrir descended from a 4th conjugation verb in Classical Latin?
[cross] The verbal derivation is later than Classical Latin.
Was magrir derived from a word that was present in Classical Latin?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 21 Mar 2020 21:41
by Jackk
shimobaatar wrote: 20 Mar 2020 22:34
Jackk wrote: 10 Mar 2020 08:36
shimobaatar wrote: 10 Mar 2020 00:40 Is magrir descended from a 4th conjugation verb in Classical Latin?
[cross] The verbal derivation is later than Classical Latin.
Was magrir derived from a word that was present in Classical Latin?
[tick] Yes, it is.

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 22 Mar 2020 19:52
by shimobaatar
This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but is it related to macer?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 23 Mar 2020 11:37
by Jackk
shimobaatar wrote: 22 Mar 2020 19:52 This is a bit of a shot in the dark, but is it related to macer?
[tick] It is! [:D]

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 25 Mar 2020 12:09
by qwed117
so "to live thinning". Does it mean "to diet"?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 25 Mar 2020 12:38
by Jackk
qwed117 wrote: 25 Mar 2020 12:09 so "to live thinning". Does it mean "to diet"?
[cross] It does not.

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 26 Mar 2020 02:07
by shimobaatar
Does the meaning of magrir have something to do with becoming thinner?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 26 Mar 2020 11:01
by Jackk
shimobaatar wrote: 26 Mar 2020 02:07 Does the meaning of magrir have something to do with becoming thinner?
:?: Hmmm, ok

- "become thin" was a sense of this word in the past
- becoming thinner is a result of literally doing one of its modern senses
- it is being used metaphorically in the phrase

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 26 Mar 2020 14:13
by qwed117
so, something along the lines of '"living poorly" - like "starving" or "malnutrition"?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 26 Mar 2020 18:32
by Jackk
qwed117 wrote: 26 Mar 2020 14:13 so, something along the lines of '"living poorly" - like "starving" or "malnutrition"?
[cross] Very much no.

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 29 Mar 2020 13:45
by shimobaatar
"to exercise", maybe? With weight loss as a goal?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 29 Mar 2020 16:41
by Jackk
shimobaatar wrote: 29 Mar 2020 13:45 "to exercise", maybe? With weight loss as a goal?
[cross] No.
Jackk wrote: 26 Mar 2020 11:01 [magrir] is being used metaphorically in the phrase

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 29 Mar 2020 16:49
by shimobaatar
Jackk wrote: 29 Mar 2020 16:41
Jackk wrote: 26 Mar 2020 11:01 [magrir] is being used metaphorically in the phrase
Right, but I thought it might help to try to figure out what the typical/literal meaning is first.
Jackk wrote: 26 Mar 2020 11:01 - becoming thinner is a result of literally doing one of its modern senses
Is this "becoming thinner" as in a person losing weight, or as in an object being whittled down, or something else?

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 29 Mar 2020 18:03
by Jackk
shimobaatar wrote: 29 Mar 2020 16:49 Right, but I thought it might help to try to figure out what the typical/literal meaning is first.
Sure [:D] I'll just note that the whole phrase veur a magrir is never used literally. But yeah, it possibly is worth workign out what magrir literally means in the modern sense.
shimobaatar wrote: 29 Mar 2020 16:49 Is this "becoming thinner" as in a person losing weight, or as in an object being whittled down, or something else?
Losing weight.

Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

Posted: 29 Mar 2020 19:01
by shimobaatar
So it's not "starve", "diet", or "exercise". Hmm… does magrir generally have a positive connotation?