Guess the Word in Romlangs

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shimobaatar wrote:
11 Apr 2020 15:51
Salmoneus wrote:
11 Apr 2020 15:15
shimobaatar wrote:
11 Apr 2020 14:22
Salmoneus wrote:
11 Apr 2020 12:49
shimobaatar wrote:
11 Apr 2020 02:16
Are any of s- -um- -òt pronouns?
No. At least, 'no' is the answer to the question you asked...
I must admit I don't know what you mean by this. Would it be asking too much for me to request some clarification?
Edit: I don't know if this is the source of the issue, but at least for me, "any" can mean "at least one, but as many as all". This may be an idiolectal or dialectal thing.
I'm not aware of 'any' having other meanings?

But I thought maybe you meant something else. The answer to the given question is simply no: this is a verb, and pronouns are a different part of speech altogether.
Alright.

Well yes, of course, but I thought it might be a verb phrase with an object pronoun included or something like that.

Well, there you're getting into difficult philosophical territory - I'm not sure how one really defines an incorporated pronoun.

How about this: at least one of those morphemes does mark person. Whether you want to call it/them (a) special incorporated pronoun form(s), or just regular person-marking affixes, we'll leave to one side, perhaps.

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Is -òt one of them, and – if so – is it from a 3pl Latin conjugation?
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Jackk wrote:
12 Apr 2020 16:48
Is -òt one of them, and – if so – is it from a 3pl Latin conjugation?
Sorry, no.

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Salmoneus wrote:
12 Apr 2020 17:05
Jackk wrote:
12 Apr 2020 16:48
Is -òt one of them, and – if so – is it from a 3pl Latin conjugation?
Sorry, no.
< -òt > doesn't mark person, got it.

- Does <-um> mark person, and is it first person?
- Does <s-> mark person, and is it third person?
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is invaza from invidia?
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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Jackk wrote:
12 Apr 2020 18:05
Salmoneus wrote:
12 Apr 2020 17:05
Jackk wrote:
12 Apr 2020 16:48
Is -òt one of them, and – if so – is it from a 3pl Latin conjugation?
Sorry, no.
< -òt > doesn't mark person, got it.

- Does <-um> mark person, and is it first person?
- Does <s-> mark person, and is it third person?
Yes, yes, yes, and also yes.

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qwed117 wrote:
12 Apr 2020 19:27
is invaza from invidia?
No

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So I think this is rudimentary to ask for but <in> in invaza is not from *in- in Latin then right?
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Salmoneus wrote:
13 Apr 2020 00:08
Yes, yes, yes, and also yes.
Huzzah!

Is either person marking subject marking, and if so is it the <s->?

Does both affices descend from independent words in Latin?
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Jackk wrote:
13 Apr 2020 01:32
Salmoneus wrote:
13 Apr 2020 00:08
Yes, yes, yes, and also yes.
Huzzah!

Is either person marking subject marking, and if so is it the <s->?

Does both affices descend from independent words in Latin?
Yes, yes, and also yes.

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qwed117 wrote:
13 Apr 2020 00:28
So I think this is rudimentary to ask for but <in> in invaza is not from *in- in Latin then right?
I'm afraid not, no.

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Salmoneus wrote:
13 Apr 2020 13:24
Yes, yes, and also yes.
[B)] *is on a roll*

- is <s-> from some case form of Latin <iste>?
- is <-um-> from some case form of Latin <ego>?
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Jackk wrote:
13 Apr 2020 17:16
Salmoneus wrote:
13 Apr 2020 13:24
Yes, yes, and also yes.
[B)] *is on a roll*

- is <s-> from some case form of Latin <iste>?
No!
- is <-um-> from some case form of Latin <ego>?
Yes!

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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Salmoneus wrote:
13 Apr 2020 20:10
No!
Nooooo..... [:'(] lol

Hmm, not <ipse> either, I see... or actually, we never got an answer on that. Is it from <ipse>?

Does <-òt> descend from an independent word in Latin?
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Jackk wrote:
13 Apr 2020 22:54
Hmm, not <ipse> either, I see... or actually, we never got an answer on that. Is it from <ipse>?
I thought that had been addressed? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean.
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qwed: it does not correspond to ipse.

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Well, I guess 'correspond' might be ambiguous out of context... but no, it's not from 'ipse'.


Yes, -òt is from an independent word in Latin.

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Does -òt mark tense/mood/etc?

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Yes.

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Salmoneus wrote:
14 Apr 2020 01:51
Yes.
Is it a descendent of a form of habeō?

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Re: Guess the Word in Romlangs

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All4Ɇn wrote:
14 Apr 2020 04:19
Salmoneus wrote:
14 Apr 2020 01:51
Yes.
Is it a descendent of a form of habeō?
If it isn't a descendant of habeo is it a descendant of velle?
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