Romanization game #2

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Re: Romanization game #2

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/t k/ <d g>
/t’ k’/ <tˀ kˀ>
/tʰ kʰ/ <t k>
/tː kː/ <td kg>
/tθʰ kxʰ/ <þ x>
/tθ’ kx’/ <þˀ xˀ>

/i u/ <í ú>
/ɪ ʊ/ <ı u>
/e o/ <é ó>
/ɛ ɔ/ <e o>
/æ ɒ/ <ǽ á>
/a̟ a̠/ <æ a>

Next:

/p b t d k g q/
/f v ð s z ɕ ħ/
/t͡s d͡z t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/
/m n ŋ/
/j w/
/ɽ/
/r/
/l/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː ɵ o oː/
/a aː/

/eʊ̯ oɪ̯/
/aʊ̯ aɪ̯/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d k g q/ p b t d k g q
/f v ð s z ɕ ħ/ f v ż s z ś x
/t͡s d͡z t͡ɕ d͡ʑ/ c j č ç
/m n ŋ/ m n ñ
/j w/ y w
/ɽ/ ŗ
/r/ r
/l/ l

/i iː u uː/ i î u û
/e eː ɵ o oː/ e ê ü o ô
/a aː/ a â

/eʊ̯ oɪ̯/ eŭ oĭ
/aʊ̯ aɪ̯/ aŭ aĭ
Alphabetical order: Aa Ââ Bb Cc Čč Çç Dd Ee Êê Ff Gg Ii Îî Ĭĭ Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Ññ Oo Ôô Pp Qq Rr Ŗŗ Ss Śś Tt Uu Ûû Üü Ŭŭ Vv Ww Xx Yy Zz Żż

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/p b t d k g/
/m n ŋ/
/f v s z ɕ h/
/ʥ/
/l j w/
/ɾ/
/r/

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː eː ɛ ʌ ʌː ɔ ɔː aː ɒ/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p b t d k g/ <p b t d k g>
/m n ŋ/ <m n ṇ>
/f v s z ɕ h/ <f v s z ḥ h>
/ʥ/ <>
/l j w/ <l y w>
/ɾ/ <r>
/r/ <>

/i iː ɨ ɨː u uː eː ɛ ʌ ʌː ɔ ɔː aː ɒ/ <i ị ui ụị u ụ ẹ e oe ọẹ o ọ ạ a>



Next:
/p pʰ t tʰ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ k kʰ/
/m n ŋ/
/f θ s ʂ h/
/ʋ ð̞ ɹ ɻ/
/l j w/

/iː i uː u ɪː ɪ ʊː ʊ eː e əː ə oː o aː a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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VaptuantaDoi wrote: 18 Jan 2020 21:58
Next:
/p pʰ t tʰ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ k kʰ/ b p d t j c g k
/m n ŋ/ m n ŋ
/f θ s ʂ h/ f þ s x h
/ʋ ð̞ ɹ ɻ/ v ð r rr
/l j w/ l y w

/iː i uː u ɪː ɪ ʊː ʊ eː e əː ə oː o aː a/ ii i uu u îî î ûû û ee e êê ê oo o aa a

/m mʷ n̪ n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/
/mb mbʷ n̪d̪ nd ɳɖ͡ʐ ɲɟ ŋg ŋgʷ/
/p pʷ t̪ t ʈʂ c k kʷ ʔ/
/pʰ pʷʰ t̪ʰ tʰ ʈʂʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/
/ɓ ɓʷ ɗ̪ ɗ ᶑ/
/f s h/
/ʍ w l̪ l ɭ ʎ j/
/ɾ ɽ/

/i ɯ u/
/ɛ ʌ ɔ/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m mʷ n̪ n ɲ ŋ ŋʷ/ m mw ń n ñ ŋ ŋw
/mb mbʷ n̪d̪ nd ɳɖ͡ʐ ɲɟ ŋg ŋgʷ/ b bw ḑ d ʒ ǯ g gw
/p pʷ t̪ t ʈʂ c k kʷ ʔ/ p pw ț t c č k kw ‘
/pʰ pʷʰ t̪ʰ tʰ ʈʂʰ cʰ kʰ kʷʰ/ ph phw țh th ch čh kh khw
/ɓ ɓʷ ɗ̪ ɗ ᶑ/ ƀ ƀw đ̧ đ ǥ
/f s h/ f s x
/ʍ w l̪ l ɭ ʎ j/ v ŭ ĺ l ļ y j/ĭ
/ɾ ɽ/ r ŗ

/i ɯ u/ i û u
/ɛ ʌ ɔ/ e â o
/a/ a
Alphabetical order: Aa Ââ Bb Ƀƀ Cc Čč Dd Ḑḑ Đđ Đ̧đ̧ Ʒʒ Ǯǯ Ee Ff Gg Ǥǥ Hh Ii Ĭĭ Jj Kk Ll Ĺĺ Ļļ Mm Nn Ńń Ññ Ŋŋ Oo Pp Rr Ŗŗ Ss Tt Țț Uu Ûû Ŭŭ Vv Ww Xx Yy ‘

Next
/m~n~ɲ~ŋ/
/p b t d k/
/f v s z ʒ ɣ~g h/
/l j w/
/r/

/i iː u uː e eː o oː a aː/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m~n~ɲ~ŋ/ ⟨n⟩
/p b t d k/ ⟨p b t d k⟩
/f v s z ʒ ɣ~g h/ ⟨f v s z j g h⟩
/l j w/ ⟨l ĭ ŭ⟩
/r/ ⟨r⟩

/i iː u uː e eː o oː a aː/ ⟨i ī u ū e ē o ō a ā

Next:

/m~ŋʷ n~ŋ ɳ~ŋ˖ ɲ/
/p~kʷ t~k ʈ~k̟ c ʡ ʔ/
/b~ɡʷ d~ɡ ɖ~ɡ˖ ɟ/
/ɸ~xʷ s~x ʂ~x̟ ç ħ h/
/β~ɣʷ z~ɣ ʐ~ɣ˕ ʝ ʕ ɦ/
/β̞~w ɹ~ɰ ɻ~ȷ̈ j ʕ̞ ʔ̞/

Phoneme of /A/; /B~A/:
A = initial, before consonant, after consonant, final
B = intervocally

/i/
/e/
/a/

Phoneme of /i e a/:
[i e a] after palatal, epiglottal/pharyngeal, glottal consonant or as initial
[ɨ ɘ ä] after retroflex or palatovelar consonant
[ɯ ɤ ɑ] after alveolar or velar consonant
[u o ɒ] after bilabial or labiovelar consonant
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m~ŋʷ n~ŋ ɳ~ŋ˖ ɲ/ m n ń ñ
/p~kʷ t~k ʈ~k̟ c ʡ ʔ/ p t k c q 7
/b~ɡʷ d~ɡ ɖ~ɡ˖ ɟ/ b d g j
/ɸ~xʷ s~x ʂ~x̟ ç ħ h/ f s š y 5 h
/β~ɣʷ z~ɣ ʐ~ɣ˕ ʝ ʕ ɦ/ v z ž ÿ 3 ḥ
/β̞~w ɹ~ɰ ɻ~ȷ̈ j ʕ̞ ʔ̞/ w r l ł ç 2

Phoneme of /A/; /B~A/:
A = initial, before consonant, after consonant, final
B = intervocally

/i/
/e/
/a/

Phoneme of /i e a/:
[i e a] after palatal, epiglottal/pharyngeal, glottal consonant or as initial i e â
[ɨ ɘ ä] after retroflex or palatovelar consonant ï ë ä
[ɯ ɤ ɑ] after alveolar or velar consonant ü ö a
[u o ɒ] after bilabial or labiovelar consonant u o å
Alphabet order: Aa Ââ Bb Cc Çç Dd Ee Ëë Ff Gg Hh Ḥḥ Ii Ïï Jj Kk Ll Łł Mm Nn Ññ Ńń Oo Pp Qq Rr Ss Šš Tt Uu Üü Vv Ww Xx Yy Ÿÿ Zz Žž Ää Öö Åå 2 3 5 7

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26 phonemes
/m n/
/p b t d k g q/
/f v ð s z ʒ ʝ h/
/l j w/
/r/
/ɬ/

/i u e o a/
Use one letter per sound.
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Re: Romanization game #2

Post by VaptuantaDoi »

I count 27 phonemes...

/m n/ m n
/p b t d k g q/ p b t d g q k
/f v ð s z ʒ ʝ h/ f w z s x y j h
/l j w/ l 3 v
/r/ r
/ɬ/ c

/i u e o a/ i u e o a



Next:
/p ʔ/
/m n/
/r w/
/s x h/

/i ɨ ə o ɐ/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/p ʔ/ ⟨p k⟩
/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/r w/ ⟨r u⟩
/s x h/ ⟨s c j⟩

/i ɨ ə o ɐ/ ⟨i y e o a⟩

Next:

/m n̪/
/p b t̪ d̪ k ɡ/
/tʃ dʒ/
/f s̪ z̪ ʃ ʒ ɦ/
/β̞ l̪ ɹ̠ j ɰᵝ/
/ɾ̪/

/i~ɪ ɯᵝ/
/e̞~ɛ̝ o̞/
/æ~a ä~ɑ̈/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n̪/ ⟨m n⟩
/p b t̪ d̪ k ɡ/ ⟨p b t d k g⟩
/tʃ dʒ/ ⟨ć c⟩
/f s̪ z̪ ʃ ʒ ɦ/ ⟨f s z ś j h⟩
/β̞ l̪ ɹ̠ j ɰᵝ/ ⟨v l ŕ y w⟩
/ɾ̪/ ⟨r⟩

/i~ɪ ɯᵝ/ ⟨i u⟩
/e̞~ɛ̝ o̞/ ⟨e o⟩
/æ~a ä~ɑ̈/ ⟨á a⟩

Next:

/m n/
/p b t d k~q ɡ~ɣ~ʁ/
/ts tʃ~tɕ/
/ɸ~f β~v~ʋ~w s z ʃ~ɕ ʒ~ʑ x~h~ɦ/
/ɹ~ɾ~r l j/

/i~ɪ ĩ ɨ u~ʊ uː ũ/
/e~ɛ ẽ ə o~ɔ/
/a~ɑ ã/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ <m n>
/p b t d k~q ɡ~ɣ~ʁ/ <p b t d k g>
/ts tʃ~tɕ/ <c ć>
/ɸ~f β~v~ʋ~w s z ʃ~ɕ ʒ~ʑ x~h~ɦ/ <f v s z ś ź h>
/ɹ~ɾ~r l j/ <r l j>

/i~ɪ ĩ ɨ u~ʊ uː ũ/ <i í y u ū ú>
/e~ɛ ẽ ə o~ɔ/ <e é ø o>
/a~ɑ ã/ <a á>



/m n ŋ ŋ̊ ŋʷ ŋ̊ʷ ɴ/
/t' k' kʷ' q'/
/t k kʷ q ʔ/
/b d g gʷ/
/s x xʷ ħ h/
/j ɣ w ʕ/

/a i ɯ u œ/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ŋ ŋ̊ ŋʷ ŋ̊ʷ ɴ/ ⟨m n ŋ ŋh ŋw ŋwh ƞ⟩
/t' k' kʷ' q'/ ⟨tt kk kkw cc⟩
/t k kʷ q ʔ/ ⟨t k kw c |⟩
/b d g gʷ/ ⟨b d g gw⟩
/s x xʷ ħ h/ ⟨s x xw ɦ h⟩
/j ɣ w ʕ/ ⟨y ğ w o⟩

/a i ɯ u œ/ ⟨a i v u e⟩

Next:

/m n ɲ/
/p t tɕ k/
/s ɕ h/
/l j w/

/i u/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ɲ/ m n y
/p t tɕ k/ p t c k
/s ɕ h/ s x h
/l j w/ l j w

/i u/ i u
/a/ a
Alphabet order: Aa Cc Hh Ii Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Pp Ss Tt Uu Ww Xx Yy

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/m n/
/p t k/
/s h/
/l w/

/i u e o æ a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ ⟨m n⟩
/p t k/ ⟨p t k⟩
/s h/ ⟨s h⟩
/l w/ ⟨l w⟩

/i u e o æ a/ ⟨i u e o á a⟩

Next:

/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/
/p pʰ t tʰ k kʰ ʔ/
/b d ɡ/
/ts tsʰ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ tɕ tɕʰ/
/dz dʑ/
/ɸ ɸʷ f s sʰ ʂ ɕ ɕʰ ç x h/
/β βʷ z ʐ ʑ ʝ ɣ ɦ/
/l j ɰ w/
/ɾ/

/i y ɯ u/
/e ø ə ɤ o/
/ɛ ʌ/
/a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ɲ ŋ ɴ/ m n ñ ŋ ń
/p pʰ t tʰ k kʰ ʔ/ p ph t th k kh q
/b d ɡ/ b d g
/ts tsʰ ʈʂ ʈʂʰ tɕ tɕʰ/ c ch č čh ć ćh
/dz dʑ/ dz dź
/ɸ ɸʷ f s sʰ ʂ ɕ ɕʰ ç x h/ ħ ħŭ f s sh š ś śh ş x h
/β βʷ z ʐ ʑ ʝ ɣ ɦ/ v vŭ z ž ź ȥ ğ ɦ
/l j ɰ w/ l j ŵ w
/ɾ/ r

/i y ɯ u/ i ü ï u
/e ø ə ɤ o/ e œ y ë o
/ɛ ʌ/ ä ö
/a/ a
Alphabetical order: Aa Ää Bb Cc Čč Ćć Dd Ee Ëë Ff Gg Ğğ Hh Ħħ Ɦɦ Ii Ïï Jj Kk Ll Mm Nn Ññ Ŋŋ Ńń Oo Öö Œœ Pp Qq Rr Ss Šš Śś Şş Tt Uu Üü Ŭŭ Vv Ww Ŵŵ Xx Yy Zz Žž Źź Ȥȥ
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/n/
/t k/
/s x h/
/l j ɰ/
/r/

/i ɯ e ɤ æ a/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/n/ <n>
/t k/ <t k>
/s x h/ <s x h>
/l j ɰ/ <l j g>
/r/ <r>

/i ɯ e ɤ æ a/ <i u e o æ a>

/m ɱ n/
/p p̪ t k/
/ɸ f s x/
/ⱱ0 ⱱ1 ɾ/
/w j/

/i e a o u/

If two /ⱱ/ phones are separated by only vowels and /w j/, they cannot be both /ⱱ0/ or both /ⱱ1/. /ⱱ0/ flicks the lower lip outward, while /ⱱ1/ flicks it inward.

If one of /m p ɸ w ɾ/ is the next consonant after /ⱱ1/, it becomes labiodental [ɱ p̪ f ʋ ⱱ0]. If one of /ɱ p̪ f/ is the next consonant after /ⱱ0/, it becomes bilabial [m p ɸ]. If the consonant directly before /ⱱ/ is bilabial, that /ⱱ/ is realized as /ⱱ1/, while if the preceding consonant is labiodental, it is realized as /ⱱ0/.

Next to labiodentals, /u o/ are realized as unrounded [ɨ ə].

/maⱱajtan/ [maⱱ1æjtan]
/p̪aɾawɸe/ [p̪aɾɒwɸe]
/ⱱoⱱaɸfix/ [ⱱ0əⱱ1af:iç]
/ɱaɾtunka/ [ɱaɾtuŋka]
/siⱱojⱱitun/ [siⱱ1ejⱱ0itun]
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m ɱ n/ m mh n
/p p̪ t k/ p ph t k
/ɸ f s x/ f fh s x
/ⱱ0 ⱱ1 ɾ/ v l r
/w j/ w y

/i e a o u/ i u e a o

I'm not sure about the allophony other than what you mentioned, so I'm just ignoring it in the romanisation.

/maⱱajtan/ [maⱱ1æjtan] malaytan
/p̪aɾawɸe/ [p̪aɾɒwɸe] pharawfe
/ⱱoⱱaɸfix/ [ⱱ0əⱱ1af:iç] volaffhix
/ɱaɾtunka/ [ɱaɾtuŋka] mhartunka
/siⱱojⱱitun/ [siⱱ1ejⱱ0itun] siloyvitun



Next:
/m n nʲ/
/pʰ p b tʰ t d tsʰ ts dz tɕʰ tɕ dʑ kʰ k g/
/ʘʰ ʘ ʘ̬ ᵐʘ̬ ǀʰ ǀ ǀ̬ ⁿǀ ǃʲʰ ǃʲ ǃ̬ʲ ⁿǃʲ/
/l j w h/

/i ɨ u/
/e o/
/æ a/

Tones: /a˨ a˧ a˦ a˥ a˥˧ a˦˩ a˩˥ a˨˥˧ a˦˩˨/
(three-part contour tones only occur on /i o a/)
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n nʲ/ ⟨m n ñ⟩
/pʰ p b tʰ t d tsʰ ts dz tɕʰ tɕ dʑ kʰ k g/ ⟨ṗ p b ṫ t d ṡ s z ẋ x j ċ c g⟩
/ʘʰ ʘ ʘ̬ ᵐʘ̬ ǀʰ ǀ ǀ̬ ⁿǀ ǃʲʰ ǃʲ ǃ̬ʲ ⁿǃʲ/ ⟨0' 0 0b '0 1' 1 1d '1 2' 2 2j '2⟩
/l j w h/ ⟨l y w h⟩

/i ɨ u/ ⟨i ĩ u⟩
/e o/ ⟨e o⟩
/æ a/ ⟨ẽ a⟩

Tones: /a˨ a˧ a˦ a˥ a˥˧ a˦˩ a˩˥ a˨˥˧ a˦˩˨/ ⟨aˡ a aʰ aˣʰ aᶠ aˣᶠ aʳ aᶠʳ aʳᶠ⟩

Next:

/m n/
/b t d k g ʔ/
/dʒ/
/f s z ʃ h/
/ɹ l j w/

/iː uː/
/ɪ ʊ/
/æ ɑː/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n/ <m n>
/b t d k g ʔ/ <b t d k g q>
/dʒ/ <j>
/f s z ʃ h/ <f s z x h>
/ɹ l j w/ <r l y w>

/iː uː/ <ī ū>
/ɪ ʊ/ <i u>
/æ ɑː/ <a ā>

Next:

/m n ɲ ŋ/
/b t d k ɡ ʔ/
/f s ɬ ʃ h/
/ts tɬ tʃ dʒ/
/r l j ɰ w/

/i u e o a/
/iː uː eː oː ɛː ɔː aː/

/V˩ V˧ V˥/
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Re: Romanization game #2

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/m n ɲ ŋ/ ⟨m n ń ŋ⟩
/b t d k ɡ ʔ/ ⟨b t d k g '⟩
/f s ɬ ʃ h/ ⟨f s ł ś h⟩
/ts tɬ tʃ dʒ/ ⟨c z ć j⟩
/r l j ɰ w/ ⟨r l y v w⟩

/i u e o a/ ⟨i u e o a⟩
/iː uː eː oː ɛː ɔː aː/ ⟨í ú ei ou é ó á⟩

/V˩ V˧ V˥/ ⟨aꜜ a aꜛ⟩

Next:

Syllable structure is /(C)V/

/m mː mˠ n̺ n̺ː ŋ ŋ/
/b bˠ t̺ k/
/βˠ~ⱱ̟ˠ/
/ɾ̺/

/t/ is [s] before /i, iː/

/i iː u uː/
/e eː o oː/
/ɑ ɑː/
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