etymologically, yesshimobaatar wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 01:44Is re- equivalent to "re-" in English, etc.?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 01:21not in eithershimobaatar wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 01:17 Is remuêl- descended from a single word in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
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Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
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it descends from a verb which appears (in slightly different forms) in both Classical and Vulgar Latinshimobaatar wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 13:27 Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
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Is -muêl- from molo, molui, molitum?
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Is the difference in form between Classical and Vulgar Latin related to a single segment, either a consonant or vowel?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 14:18it descends from a verb which appears (in slightly different forms) in both Classical and Vulgar Latinshimobaatar wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 13:27 Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
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Not really... although in some forms this is the case, the difference is morphological rather than phonological.shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021 00:29Is the difference in form between Classical and Vulgar Latin related to a single segment, either a consonant or vowel?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 14:18it descends from a verb which appears (in slightly different forms) in both Classical and Vulgar Latinshimobaatar wrote: ↑29 Aug 2021 13:27 Is -muêl- descended from a verb in (Classical and/or Vulgar) Latin?
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Gonna guess that means that the verb is *molliō ‘to wet, to dampen’? Re-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
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Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑16 Sep 2021 08:52
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, soRe-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
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shimobaatar wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021 14:39Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑16 Sep 2021 08:52
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, soRe-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The semantic drift was initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again.
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Culinary, hmm? This may be too generalized, but does remuêl- here just mean "to cook"?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021 23:11shimobaatar wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021 14:39Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑16 Sep 2021 08:52
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, soRe-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The semantic drift was initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again.
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Nope. The culinary meaning is pretty specific.shimobaatar wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021 03:19Culinary, hmm? This may be too generalized, but does remuêl- here just mean "to cook"?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021 23:11shimobaatar wrote: ↑27 Sep 2021 14:39Is its current meaning at all similar to any of the meanings listed for this verb?VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑16 Sep 2021 08:52
The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot, soRe-wetting center… Is it a term for a laundromat?
The semantic drift was initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again.
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Hmm… I'm not sure how much further I'll be able to get with this line of inquiry, so to speak, at least for the time being. I'll try to take a step back.
Does centrala remuêlaçônel refer to a building?
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Not really a single building, although there would definitely be a number of buildings/structures in a centrala remuêlaçônel.shimobaatar wrote: ↑28 Sep 2021 19:00Hmm… I'm not sure how much further I'll be able to get with this line of inquiry, so to speak, at least for the time being. I'll try to take a step back.
Does centrala remuêlaçônel refer to a building?
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centrala remuêlaçônel
- Does not mean "laundromat"
- Does not refer to a single building, "although there would definitely be a number of buildings/structures in" one
- A noun
- Related to the English words "center/centre" and "central"
- Refers to a location
- More specific than just "a central place"
- An adjective
- -açônel is equivalent to English “-ational”
- re- is etymologically equivalent to "re-" in English
- -muêl- is descended from *molliō "to wet, to dampen"
- "The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot", "initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again"
- remuêl- does not simply mean "to cook", as the "culinary meaning is pretty specific"
I've tried to summarize everything that's been confirmed so far here.
Since it was specifically said that re- is etymologically equivalent to English "re-", I'm assuming it won't be helpful to think of it as meaning something like "again" here, correct?
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Yep, all correct.shimobaatar wrote: ↑06 Oct 2021 00:27centrala remuêlaçônelcentrala
- Does not mean "laundromat"
- Does not refer to a single building, "although there would definitely be a number of buildings/structures in" one
remuêlaçônel
- A noun
- Related to the English words "center/centre" and "central"
- Refers to a location
- More specific than just "a central place"
- An adjective
- -açônel is equivalent to English “-ational”
- re- is etymologically equivalent to "re-" in English
- -muêl- is descended from *molliō "to wet, to dampen"
- "The meaning of remuêl- has changed quite a lot", "initially towards a more specific culinary sense, although in the compound it’s been generalised again"
- remuêl- does not simply mean "to cook", as the "culinary meaning is pretty specific"
I've tried to summarize everything that's been confirmed so far here.
It's helpful for working out the older culinary meaning, but not for the way its used in this compound.Since it was specifically said that re- is etymologically equivalent to English "re-", I'm assuming it won't be helpful to think of it as meaning something like "again" here, correct?
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Does <remuêla-> mean “to fry” and does the whole word mean something like “food court”?
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"to boil"?